posted by QuakerOats

It's always something with him .......... I'd package him up and send him off for a couple picks

He has minimal to no trade value right now. He had 3 great years but now you're more likely to see him on IR or inactive, due to injuries, than you are to see posting significant stats.

posted by BR1986FB

Also don't know if I'd trust a receiver who gator arms potential TD passes.

He's had his issues catching, but that ball was severely overthrown. 

So Beckham's dad posted that video I posted above and Hollywood Higgins "liked" it. Mayfield's wife is liking posts saying the Browns aren't losing because of Mayfield. I thought this dumpster fire shit was over when Kentucky Fried Freddie left?

Mayfield wants to win, first and foremost.  Some of these other guys want to catch balls, first and foremost, and hopefully win too.  That won't work.  Maybe somebody should start a "Drops" thread for the receivers. 

posted by QuakerOats

Mayfield wants to win, first and foremost.  Some of these other guys want to catch balls, first and foremost, and hopefully win too.  That won't work.  Maybe somebody should start a "Drops" thread for the receivers. 

Just thinking out loud but I think some of Mayfield's issues are that he's not using the gunslinger mentality he had earlier in his career. Stefanski came in and programmed him to not throw INT's. Now that he's making the "safe" throws he's getting the criticism.

Lot of people making it sound like Odell orchestrated the video and Lebron and some other people’s comments today. Seems like he wants out

posted by BR1986FB

Just thinking out loud but I think some of Mayfield's issues are that he's not using the gunslinger mentality he had earlier in his career. Stefanski came in and programmed him to not throw INT's. Now that he's making the "safe" throws he's getting the criticism.

I agree 100%. Part of that is a lot of Stefanskis plays get guys WIDE open. Couple that with your coach not wanting any INTs, and you get a QB who doesnt throw to "NFL Open" and only throws to college open. That wont get it done.

posted by iclfan2

Lot of people making it sound like Odell orchestrated the video and Lebron and some other people’s comments today. Seems like he wants out

Yep

Damn...Jaylon Smith already released by the Packers.

Sounds like the Browns/Saints were trying to work on an OBJ deal but couldn't come to terms.- Also sounds like the Browns might just flat out cut him.

And after half a season, the walls begin to tumble.  

The most comical thing about the OBJ/Baker BS is Dwayne Bowe commenting on OBJ's dad's Twitter "they did me the same way." GTFOH, pay check thief.

The team has excused OBJ from practice today. OBJ was ready to report but in a "team related" move, the team excused him.

Wtf are they doing.

posted by iclfan2

Wtf are they doing.

I'll be surprised if they don't release him or pay him not to play the rest of the season. Shame they couldn't have gotten something from the Saints. Would be nice if we could go a nice 5+ year stretch without BS dysfunction.

And there it is....

#Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski told the team this morning during a meeting that wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr isn’t apart of the team at this time, and will not be with the team for the rest of the season, according to @brownsbybrad

If you have to eat a toad, eat it; it does not get any better looking the longer you stare at it. 

Stefanski's Press Conference....

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2021/11/kevin-stefanski-discusses-odell-beckham-jr-baker-mayfield-in-press-conference-transcript.html

Well DPJ was back at practice today. Rather see what he has to offer.

OBJ stuff is bizarre.

People were speculating, several years ago, that he was going down the Antonio Brown path.  And that's even before AB went certifiably batshit.

Damn if CLE doesn't look like a JV version of the Steelers 10 years ago (whom, I'll remind you, went to 1 AFCC and won 3 playoff games in a decade all with a future HOF QB).

Whatever your thoughts are on Baker, it is crazy that anyone would take OBJ's side on this and justify his behavior.  

Browns plan on releasing him today. I hate that these whiny bitches get rewarded for petulant behavior.

posted by like_that

Whatever your thoughts are on Baker, it is crazy that anyone would take OBJ's side on this and justify his behavior.  

I don’t think you can. I do think you can acknowledge Baker isn’t very good. But what OBJ does when he doesn’t get his way makes it tough for anyone to want him on your team. At least to me. 

posted by BR1986FB

Browns plan on releasing him today. I hate that these whiny bitches get rewarded for petulant behavior.

Don’t you think keeping him would be worse than releasing him. Especially after his camp tearing apart a locker room essentially.