Houston lost again today and probably lost Savage after that hit today. They could lose out and finish 4-12. Right now we stand to gain the 8th pick in the first two rounds from them
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/12/nfl-browns-hue-jackson-kenny-britt-agent-twitter-packers
Hue getting dogged by Kenny Britt's agent. Now that is rich!
I have a question. Why are the Browns early favorites in Vegas next week vs Ravens?
posted by Ironman92I have a question. Why are the Browns early favorites in Vegas next week vs Ravens?
Because it's gotta happen SOMETIME.
Can’t diguee out how to post a picture right now but I lol’d at a picture on Twitter where a banner was hanging in the browns stadium that said “took a team to overtime. 2017”
posted by slingshot4everHouston lost again today and probably lost Savage after that hit today. They could lose out and finish 4-12. Right now we stand to gain the 8th pick in the first two rounds from them
I thought I read where it is currently the 6th pick.
For anyone here in sales, a good comparison was brought up this morning between Hue Jackson and a major accounts sales rep. If a sales rep was given 29 major/key accounts and he lost 28 of those accounts over a 2 year period, would he still have a job? I think we all know the answer to that one.
And all of the blame can't be tossed on Hue for this one. For THREE quarters, Gregg Williams' defense shut down Brett "First Ballot HOFer" Hundley and then he goes into prevent in the 4th quarter with a 14 point lead? W-T-F?
Hopefully Dorsey saw how bad Hue is of a coach and he's done after the Pittsburgh game. I'm so tired of Jackson's smug "I'm smarter than everyone else/not my fault/pass the buck" attitude. This team's roster (minus QB) is on par with the Indianapolis' & Green Bay's of the world but they can't even will themselves a victory. I thought they had a shot in this one (prior to the game) and in Chicago, but after yesterday I'm doubting they can even pull off another Christmas Eve miracle in the Windy City.
posted by BR1986FBFor anyone here in sales, a good comparison was brought up this morning between Hue Jackson and a major accounts sales rep. If a sales rep was given 29 major/key accounts and he lost 28 of those accounts over a 2 year period, would he still have a job? I think we all know the answer to that one.
And all of the blame can't be tossed on Hue for this one. For THREE quarters, Gregg Williams' defense shut down Brett "First Ballot HOFer" Hundley and then he goes into prevent in the 4th quarter with a 14 point lead? W-T-F?
Hopefully Dorsey saw how bad Hue is of a coach and he's done after the Pittsburgh game. I'm so tired of Jackson's smug "I'm smarter than everyone else/not my fault/pass the buck" attitude. This team's roster (minus QB) is on par with the Indianapolis' & Green Bay's of the world but they can't even will themselves a victory. I thought they had a shot in this one (prior to the game) and in Chicago, but after yesterday I'm doubting they can even pull off another Christmas Eve miracle in the Windy City.
I’ll be there for that Christmas Eve sad excuse for a football game at soldier field. What’s sad is the difference in fan optimism in Cleveland vs Chicago. Yes the Bears suck this year but a) they’re at least winning some games b) have a promising young QB and c) their defense is young and really good.
We might have c, but not at the bears’ level.
Were screwed.
posted by BR1986FBFor anyone here in sales, a good comparison was brought up this morning between Hue Jackson and a major accounts sales rep. If a sales rep was given 29 major/key accounts and he lost 28 of those accounts over a 2 year period, would he still have a job? I think we all know the answer to that one.
And all of the blame can't be tossed on Hue for this one. For THREE quarters, Gregg Williams' defense shut down Brett "First Ballot HOFer" Hundley and then he goes into prevent in the 4th quarter with a 14 point lead? W-T-F?
Hopefully Dorsey saw how bad Hue is of a coach and he's done after the Pittsburgh game. I'm so tired of Jackson's smug "I'm smarter than everyone else/not my fault/pass the buck" attitude. This team's roster (minus QB) is on par with the Indianapolis' & Green Bay's of the world but they can't even will themselves a victory. I thought they had a shot in this one (prior to the game) and in Chicago, but after yesterday I'm doubting they can even pull off another Christmas Eve miracle in the Windy City.
he went into prevent in the THIRD qt. I had never seen anything like that before.
posted by SportsAndLadyI’ll be there for that Christmas Eve sad excuse for a football game at soldier field. What’s sad is the difference in fan optimism in Cleveland vs Chicago. Yes the Bears suck this year but a) they’re at least winning some games b) have a promising young QB and c) their defense is young and really good.
We might have c, but not at the bears’ level.
I have more hope for this franchise going forward than I have the past 4 seasons.
Were screwed.
posted by like_thatI have more hope for this franchise going forward than I have the past 4 seasons.
Were screwed.
I only have this hope if Hue is canned after the Pittsburgh game. They need to get rid of him ASAP. My main reasoning, besides he sucks, is that this team will likely be drafting a QB #1 overall in this coming draft. If they keep Hue one more year, he sucks just as bad AGAIN, and gets fired, then they bring in a new guy who might not be in love with their QB choice at #1.
Chicago could see the same issue with Trubisky. Fox will likely get canned and what if the new hire isn't enamored with Mitch? Better off to just start fresh, with Dorsey's HC choice.
How can anyone have any optimism in this franchise at this point? I mean seriously. We’re like 1-28. We have no QB. We have no coach. Our GM is brand new. Our owner ruins everything he touches.
I’m not really a “sky is falling” kind of fan, but at this point what is there to be excited about?
Went to the game yesterday. My first game in Cleveland.
Am a Packers fan. I can't say much about knowing anything about the Browns this year, but Kizer played a strong game. Browns defense stymied the Packers, which I expected -- Browns do have a good run defense and Hundley struggles.
I almost left with 5:30 left in the game. McCarthy punts it on 4th and I thought the game was over. A couple of pass plays/incompletions gave the Packers decent time to make something happen. For once, a return for the Packers was good. I've never been one to call for coaches' jobs (being a coach myself), but it's getting close to the end of the road for some of the Packers' coaches.
Boo hoo. ^^^^^
It's very frustrating to know that so many Packer fans were there yesterday. If you were listening on the radio, you might have thought it was in Green Bay.
Because Cleveland.
posted by OSHWent to the game yesterday. My first game in Cleveland.
Am a Packers fan. I can't say much about knowing anything about the Browns this year, but Kizer played a strong game. Browns defense stymied the Packers, which I expected -- Browns do have a good run defense and Hundley struggles.
I almost left with 5:30 left in the game. McCarthy punts it on 4th and I thought the game was over. A couple of pass plays/incompletions gave the Packers decent time to make something happen. For once, a return for the Packers was good. I've never been one to call for coaches' jobs (being a coach myself), but it's getting close to the end of the road for some of the Packers' coaches.
McCarthy seems to be a pretty blah coach who looks good because of how great Aaron Rodgers is. But when he doesn't have him winning games with crazy-ass hail marys, he's pretty hopeless.
posted by BRFBoo hoo. ^^^^^
It's very frustrating to know that so many Packer fans were there yesterday. If you were listening on the radio, you might have thought it was in Green Bay.
Because Cleveland.
Because $2 tickets on StubHub
posted by SportsAndLadyHow can anyone have any optimism in this franchise at this point? I mean seriously. We’re like 1-28. We have no QB. We have no coach. Our GM is brand new. Our owner ruins everything he touches.
I’m not really a “sky is falling” kind of fan, but at this point what is there to be excited about?
Difference between hope and optimism. 5 draft picks in the first two rounds, 1st overall pick, another potential top 10 pick, the GM has a good track record and that first pick is going to be a QB. That pick for a QB will at least give us more hope than the fucking QBs we have had in the last 15 years. Seriously, when was the last time we had hope for the QB we had starting at week 1? I am not talking about "well, hopefully he shines" type of hope we had with Kizer. You're talking about the bears and we are only one step behind the bears currently, except I think this QB class is better than this past draft class. Mitch isn't lighting up the board, so let's pump the break there.
posted by like_thatDifference between hope and optimism. 5 draft picks in the first two rounds, 1st overall pick, another potential top 10 pick, the GM has a good track record and that first pick is going to be a QB. That pick for a QB will at least give us more hope than the fucking QBs we have had in the last 15 years. Seriously, when was the last time we had hope for the QB we had starting at week 1? I am not talking about "well, hopefully he shines" type of hope we had with Kizer. You're talking about the bears and we are only one step behind the bears currently, except I think this QB class is better than this past draft class. Mitch isn't lighting up the board, so let's pump the break there.
Mitch isn’t lighting up the scoreboard but you can see the potential he has. Not saying he’s going to be John elway but you can watch bears games and see he can be really good. We don’t have that on our team is what I’m saying.
posted by like_thatDifference between hope and optimism. 5 draft picks in the first two rounds, 1st overall pick, another potential top 10 pick, the GM has a good track record and that first pick is going to be a QB. That pick for a QB will at least give us more hope than the fucking QBs we have had in the last 15 years. Seriously, when was the last time we had hope for the QB we had starting at week 1? I am not talking about "well, hopefully he shines" type of hope we had with Kizer. You're talking about the bears and we are only one step behind the bears currently, except I think this QB class is better than this past draft class. Mitch isn't lighting up the board, so let's pump the break there.
As far as your "we are only one step behind the bears currently", I feel outside of QB because that is the glaring missing piece, the Browns roster is on par, or better than, NYJ's, Indianapolis, Chicago, Green Bay and San Francisco. Two of those teams (GB & Indy
I don't know that I'd say Indy has a franchise QB until Luck actually steps on the field again and shows he can play at a high level, since he's been out forever and still seems to have shoulder issues that just won't go away.
posted by HereticI don't know that I'd say Indy has a franchise QB until Luck actually steps on the field again and shows he can play at a high level, since he's been out forever and still seems to have shoulder issues that just won't go away.
Very odd. I posted something very similar in my post about being "skeptical that Luck ever bounces back" but the content apparently didn't take when I hit post/send. I agree completely. Colts may have wasted his career with their shitty drafting.
posted by HereticI don't know that I'd say Indy has a franchise QB until Luck actually steps on the field again and shows he can play at a high level, since he's been out forever and still seems to have shoulder issues that just won't go away.
He’s just missed this season, right?
posted by SportsAndLady
Mitch isn’t lighting up the scoreboard but you can see the potential he has. Not saying he’s going to be John elway but you can watch bears games and see he can be really good. We don’t have that on our team is what I’m saying.
And I am saying there is reason for hope since we are going to be drafting a potential franchise QB. The browns will be in the same exact position the bears are in now (the potential future QB), except we are adding more pieces with all of these draft picks. I get that apathy has set in with the Browns, but how can you not see there is any hope? I feel a lot better about the potential of this team than I did the last 4 seasons when there was no end in sight or we were in limbo thinking we weren't that far away from the playoffs.
posted by like_thatAnd I am saying there is reason for hope since we are going to be drafting a potential franchise QB. The browns will be in the same exact position the bears are in now (the potential future QB), except we are adding more pieces with all of these draft picks. I get that apathy has set in with the Browns, but how can you not see there is any hope? I feel a lot better about the potential of this team than I did the last 4 seasons when there was no end in sight or we were in limbo thinking we weren't that far away from the playoffs.
Because it’s the browns and we’ll probably trade out of the first pick for more late first rounders and draft more D linemen lol
but no I agree with what you’re saying. We’ll get our QB. Just gotta hope we pick the right one. I don’t have much optimism that we’ll make the right call based on historical data, however. Hopefully I’m wrong.
Josh Gordon had 2, yest two, targets in the 2nd half + OT. That is ridiculous. Hue should be fired for that alone.