posted by SportsAndLady

3/5 of those teams took their stud RB in the top 10 lol

I said top 5. There is a difference.

posted by SportsAndLady

3/5 of those teams took their stud RB in the top 10 lol

As stated all of those teams had established rosters, but with that being said the NFC has been won by teams who didn't  need to draft a RB in the first round. 

posted by iclfan2

Ha, 92.3 reporter that Dorsey won’t be telling Hue who is going #1 until Wednesday night. Seems normal

Dorsey doesn't tell Hue anything and the leaks have stopped. Interesting.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Dorsey doesn't tell Hue anything and the leaks have stopped. Interesting.

And I love it because it's probably killing him and even more so his lap dog, Mike Silver.

posted by kizer permanente

I get the logic, but there’s a reason Barkley is slated to be picked early. People obviously value his talent at those sports. I’d be shocked if he falls just bc rb’s aren’t valued that high. 

Same ppl also said the same thing about Trent Richardson. Who do you think the Cowboys would rather have right now? Zeke or the best Corner in the game; Jalen Ramsey?

Who do you think the Jags would have right now? Leonard Fournette or Patrick Mahomes?

posted by Commander of Awesome

Same ppl also said the same thing about Trent Richardson. Who do you think the Cowboys would rather have right now? Zeke or the best Corner in the game; Jalen Ramsey?

Who do you think the Jags would have right now? Leonard Fournette or Patrick Mahomes?

Not everyone is over the moon for Barkley. I've heard he's not great between the tackles and needs to be out in space.

posted by BR1986FB

Not everyone is over the moon for Barkley. I've heard he's not great between the tackles and needs to be out in space.

Yeah his vision is average and tried to bounce a lot of runs outside.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Same ppl also said the same thing about Trent Richardson. Who do you think the Cowboys would rather have right now? Zeke or the best Corner in the game; Jalen Ramsey?

Who do you think the Jags would have right now? Leonard Fournette or Patrick Mahomes?

Or Eli Apple? Who fucking sucks.

It's so easy to do what you're doing (looking back and cherry picking who the best player was without taking into account that whoever YOU want COULD be a bust).

posted by Commander of Awesome

Yeah his vision is average and tried to bounce a lot of runs outside.

Sounds like T-Rich.

posted by SportsAndLady

Or Eli Apple? Who fucking sucks.

 

It's so easy to do what you're doing (looking back and cherry picking who the best player was without taking into account that whoever YOU want COULD be a bust).

That's not true, you're cherry picking now lol. Bottom line, you don't take RBs in the top 10.

Wait a second didn’t I get blasted on here about a month ago when I said Barkley’s vision is average at best and that he’s not very good in between the tackles... hmm 

He is not even close to be a generational type player smh. In fact I’ll even say he won’t be the best rb in this draft 

posted by like_that

As stated all of those teams had established rosters, but with that being said the NFC has been won by teams who didn't  need to draft a RB in the first round. 

So what about JAX?  I wouldn't say they had an established roster, they went 5 straight years with no more than 5 wins and drafted Fournette top 5.  Then what happened?

And please don't pretend Bortles is an Established QB moreso than Taylor

posted by slingshot4ever

So what about JAX?  I wouldn't say they had an established roster, they went 5 straight years with no more than 5 wins and drafted Fournette top 5.  Then what happened?

When you have the best defense in the NFL is helps smh 

posted by Crimson streak

He is not even close to be a generational type player smh. In fact I’ll even say he won’t be the best rb in this draft 

100% agree. Barkley's best use IMO is a player like Reggie Bush. 8-12 carries, 6 passes, and return kicks. I think he's an amazing athlete that if used correctly could be a stud. However using him like a bellcow back (Bell, Zeke, etc...) isn't using him correctly.

posted by slingshot4ever

So what about JAX?  I wouldn't say they had an established roster, they went 5 straight years with no more than 5 wins and drafted Fournette top 5.  Then what happened?

What about him? He wasn’t even the 2nd best let alone the best rookie RB in the league last year and that team was carried by their defense. Give me a more valuable position in the top 5 and then either one of those better rookie RBs in the later rounds, thanks.

posted by Crimson streak

Wait a second didn’t I get blasted on here about a month ago when I said Barkley’s vision is average at best and that he’s not very good in between the tackles... hmm 

If you did, I doubt it was by me. I like Barkley but he's not a "must have" on my wish list.

Have said all along you can get better value with guys like Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel (although he may have a health issue), Ronald Jones, etc. later and use your top picks on things you NEED....like a DE to pair with your other defensive end that's going to make Fat Boy, Flacco and the Ginger Peashooter shit their pants every time they drop back to pass.

posted by BR1986FB

If you did, I doubt it was by me. I like Barkley but he's not a "must have" on my wish list.

Have said all along you can get better value with guys like Guice, Nick Chubb, Sony Michel (although he may have a health issue), Ronald Jones, etc. later and use your top picks on things you NEED....like a DE to pair with your other defensive end that's going to make Fat Boy, Flacco and the Ginger Peashooter shit their pants every time they drop back to pass.

I really really like Penny. 

posted by Crimson streak

I really really like Penny. 

I like him, but I don't like his hands or his pass protection.

posted by Crimson streak

When you have the best defense in the NFL is helps smh 

They went 3-11 in 2016 with the best defense?  GTFO with that claim.  What changed from 2016 to 2017 on D?

If they take Chubb they will lose him or Garrett in 4-5 years once rookie contracts are up.  No one is investing that much salary into one position on D.  No different than Barkley only being worth 5 years max as a RB.

posted by slingshot4ever

They went 3-11 in 2016 with the best defense?  GTFO with that claim.  What changed from 2016 to 2017 on D?

The difference is they signed another top corner and drafted smart and developed those young defensive studs. To sit there and say fournette was the reason they went from 3-11 to 10-6 is ridiculous especially when they went 7-6 when fournette played and 3-0 when he didn’t 

posted by Crimson streak

The difference is they signed another top corner and drafted smart and developed those young defensive studs. To sit there and say fournette was the reason they went from 3-11 to 10-6 is ridiculous especially when they went 7-6 when fournette played and 3-0 when he didn’t 

Didn't hurt that the Jags had the perfect storm last year. Granted, Tennessee got in the playoffs but the rest of the division sucked due to injuries. If Watson and Houston's defense stays healthy, JAX may not be a playoff team. Didn't hurt that Andrew Luck didn't play either.

I don’t keep up with this thread but just stopping in to say no way they take Baker Mayfield #1 and this is ESPN’s big thing right now.