Freddie Kitchens interim OC

posted by vball10set

https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/report-cleveland-browns-name-defensive-coordinator-greg-williams-as-interim-head-coach/95-609225287

 

...but who will coach the O?!?

Kitchens. Young assistent

posted by SportsAndLady

Freddie Kitchens interim OC

I had to look to ensure he wasn't our old Dline player Ishmaa'ily Kitchen who played at Kent.

posted by SportsAndLady

Albright was the one who tweeted the michael scott quote. Said a player on the browns told him that Hue reminded everyone on the team of michael Scott. Lol I laughed for a good minute on that one. 

That’s pretty good

posted by iclfan2

There are still people on twitter defending Hue. It’s insane

A couple people today are whining that now the Browns are rebuilding again and they should have kept him based on the improvements they've made this season (couple wins, a tie, couple other games majorly impacted by refs). I couldn't imagine being upset because my team finally fired one of the worst head coaches the NFL has ever seen. 

posted by friendfromlowry

A couple people today are whining that now the Browns are rebuilding again and they should have kept him based on the improvements they've made this season (couple wins, a tie, couple other games majorly impacted by refs). I couldn't imagine being upset because my team finally fired one of the worst head coaches the NFL has ever seen. 

As a Bengals fan (I think?), you probably should be used to the "Stockholm Syndrome" mentality of keeping an uninspiring coach around because, uh, things could be worse! Marvin's sitting back now with a cold beer in hand, laughing about how he's mastered the formula to keep kicking around indefinitely and all these other guys can't figure it out.

posted by friendfromlowry

A couple people today are whining that now the Browns are rebuilding again and they should have kept him based on the improvements they've made this season (couple wins, a tie, couple other games majorly impacted by refs). I couldn't imagine being upset because my team finally fired one of the worst head coaches the NFL has ever seen. 

It's remarkable how many people want to die on this hill.  You can come up with any excuse you want for Hue, but it doesn't change the fact that he was only capable of 3 wins in 40 games.  Every season his teams regressed/showed no improvement, found new ways to lose, were undisciplined, and made the same mistakes.  Other than Hue being a good guy, I will never understand why people will go out of their way to defend him.  He was the worst coach the Browns have had since they returned and that is saying A LOT.  Some coaches are meant to be coordiantors or position coaches.  Hue is easily in that category. 

posted by like_that

It's remarkable how many people want to die on this hill.  You can come up with any excuse you want for Hue, but it doesn't change the fact that he was only capable of 3 wins in 40 games.  Every season his teams regressed/showed no improvement, found new ways to lose, were undisciplined, and made the same mistakes.  Other than Hue being a good guy, I will never understand why people will go out of their way to defend him.  He was the worst coach the Browns have had since they returned and that is saying A LOT.  Some coaches are meant to be coordiantors or position coaches.  Hue is easily in that category. 

I have seen the “he already has 2 wins this year after the browns only won one game in two seasons prior to this year” argument. That would be an okay argument IF HUE WASNT ALSO THE COACH OF THOSE PRIOR TWO YEARS! It’s baffling how dumb people are. 

It makes me love Gundy’s rant from the other day even more. People on Twitter are the worst. 

posted by SportsAndLady

I have seen the “he already has 2 wins this year after the browns only won one game in two seasons prior to this year” argument. That would be an okay argument IF HUE WASNT ALSO THE COACH OF THOSE PRIOR TWO YEARS! It’s baffling how dumb people are. 

It makes me love Gundy’s rant from the other day even more. People on Twitter are the worst. 

I have seen this take too, which brings the lulz considering the fact the browns significantly outplayed 3 teams (steelers week 1, saints, and raiders), but still lost. You could potentially throw in the buccs game, where they gave up 114 yards in penalties. 

I don't think it's unreasonable to say a good coach would have this team at 5-3 or 6-2 at this point. 

posted by like_that

It's remarkable how many people want to die on this hill.  You can come up with any excuse you want for Hue, but it doesn't change the fact that he was only capable of 3 wins in 40 games.  Every season his teams regressed/showed no improvement, found new ways to lose, were undisciplined, and made the same mistakes.  Other than Hue being a good guy, I will never understand why people will go out of their way to defend him.  He was the worst coach the Browns have had since they returned and that is saying A LOT.  Some coaches are meant to be coordiantors or position coaches.  Hue is easily in that category. 

The league is set up for team's not to be this historically bad. They've set it up so teams should get at least 5 wins +/-. The fact that they didn't "dumb luck" into at least 3 wins last year just shows his ineptness.

Dream hire would be John flippino and then he brings Schwartz to be the d coordinator. Since his contract is up with the eagles he wouldn’t need permission from the eagles to interview. 

As for other candidates.. Matt Campbell is interesting. He’s one hell of a coach and what he’s done at Iowa st. Is just amazing. He’s a northeast Ohio guy, plus the game last week was just awesome, 3rd and 9 running out the clock, runs a play action deep ball for a TD to ice the game. 

Lincoln Riley is very interesting. Great coach that is very innovative. A lot of NFL coaches have come to him about his offense. Obviously his system is great for baker. The only concern I have is his lack of NFL contacts and being able to fill out a coaching staff. If he does get hired, I wouldn’t be surprised to see bob stoops come join him in some compacity. 

posted by Crimson streak

Dream hire would be John flippino and then he brings Schwartz to be the d coordinator. Since his contract is up with the eagles he wouldn’t need permission from the eagles to interview. 

Schwartz is trying to become a HC somewhere..why would he take a lateral move from Philly to Cleveland? That's a pipe dream. If anything he'd be coming to Cleveland as HC. 

I don't think Defillio is a possibility either. He was our OC already and Haslam basically fired him on the spot so that Hue Jackson could call plays as the HC (nice decision Haslam you dipshit). I doubt he'll come back.

My choices would be a) Lincoln Riley, b) Zac Taylor & c) Eric Bieniemy.

So what are the expectations, going forward, for the final 8 games?

posted by BR1986FB

My choices would be a) Lincoln Riley, b) Zac Taylor & c) Eric Bieniemy.

So what are the expectations, going forward, for the final 8 games?

I just want them to win 4 more games so I can win a little money. And I want Baker to play well and stay injury-free.

posted by BR1986FB

 

So what are the expectations, going forward, for the final 8 games?

like to see us win at least three of these games, lock on to a young head coach that can relate to Mayfield, draft a couple athletic O-lineman that aren't fat asses, and maybe add another receiver or two via free agency

posted by BR1986FB

So what are the expectations, going forward, for the final 8 games?

Not much. Just want Baker to improve and not get killed.

Remaining schedule:

Chiefs/ Falcons/ Bengals/ Texans/ Panthers/ Broncos/ Bengals/ Ravens

I don't really see any wins out of that on paper, but think they might figure out how to win 2 of them. I hope I am wrong,

posted by SportsAndLady

I just want them to win 4 more games so I can win a little money. And I want Baker to play well and stay injury-free.

I think the rest of the season could be real ugly. Kitchens has never called plays. I'm hoping that if Baker looks like crap the rest of the year that people remember Jared Goff's rookie season under Jeff Fisher and don't want to move on to another QB.

posted by BR1986FB

I think the rest of the season could be real ugly. Kitchens has never called plays. I'm hoping that if Baker looks like crap the rest of the year that people remember Jared Goff's rookie season under Jeff Fisher and don't want to move on to another QB.

I can't see this happening under any circumstance, unless you're not aware that a football is pumped and not stuffed...Baker Mayfield is our QB. Period.

posted by BR1986FB

I think the rest of the season could be real ugly. Kitchens has never called plays. I'm hoping that if Baker looks like crap the rest of the year that people remember Jared Goff's rookie season under Jeff Fisher and don't want to move on to another QB.

That won't happen. Not after a rookie season for the #1 overall pick

I don't think the franchise will move on from him. Him and Dorsey are locked at the hip. I could see some dumbass fans wanting to though. Shit, there are still idiot Buckeye fans that want him outta here for planting the flag. Idiots.

posted by BR1986FB

I could see some dumbass fans wanting to though. 

you mean like the ones on Twitter? lol

/Mike Gundy'd

posted by vball10set

you mean like the ones on Twitter? lol

/Mike Gundy'd

After Goff's rookie season, a lot of people, myself included, wrote him off as a bust. If Mayfield regresses because of the new play caller, I could see fans doing the same.

posted by BR1986FB

I think the rest of the season could be real ugly. Kitchens has never called plays. I'm hoping that if Baker looks like crap the rest of the year that people remember Jared Goff's rookie season under Jeff Fisher and don't want to move on to another QB.

Kitchens did call all the plays the final preseason game against the lions. I think he will actually surprise some people with his play calling 

posted by Crimson streak

Kitchens did call all the plays the final preseason game against the lions. I think he will actually surprise some people with his play calling 

Well yeah, I know that but didn't really count it since it was the Future Uber Drivers of America vs UPS Truck Loaders.