Cleveland Browns 2023 Season Thread

BR1986FB

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 12:34 PM

Browns depleted O-Line dodged this bullet on Sunday but will still face Montez Sweat, who is playing like a madman since being traded....

Laley23

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 12:59 PM

I’m old enough to remember when I was young enough to think that Kevin Johnson, Dennis Northcutt, and Quincy Morgan were HOF talents. 

BR1986FB

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 1:06 PM

LOL...friggin Northcutt dropping that pass against Pittsburgh in the playoffs. Would've sealed the win.

BR1986FB

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 1:18 PM

Now Delpit to IR, joining Mo Hurst, who was put on there yesterday. Waiting word on Pocic. All three of these guys were playing at high levels. I hope they bring back Hurst next year.

With all of these injuries it's going to be a grind to get the wins needed for the payoffs. They've been living off the "next man up" mentality but, at some point, something's got to give. If they make it, Stefanski should be strongly consider for Coach of the Year but I doubt he gets it.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Dec 13, 2023 1:33 PM

Add Okoronkwo to the list. Damn. 

QuakerOats

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 1:34 PM

Okoronkwo may be finished too. 

Ironman92

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 1:45 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Browns have never really had standout receivers. When I was a kid it was Reggie Rucker & Dave Logan who played with Sipe. Then Bernie had Langhorne & Slaughter (Ozzie but he was a TE). Then there was Josh Gordon, who smoked away his chances at being elite. Beckham was pretty much a bust here although Jarvis was solid. Andrew Berry is not strong at drafting WR's.

One thing I can say for your boys, they know how to draft receivers and edge rushers. Not so good with the secondary, other than Polamalu.

Rod Woodson was incredible+


BR1986FB

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 2:03 PM

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Heretic

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Wed, Dec 13, 2023 3:16 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Browns have never really had standout receivers. When I was a kid it was Reggie Rucker & Dave Logan who played with Sipe. Then Bernie had Langhorne & Slaughter (Ozzie but he was a TE). Then there was Josh Gordon, who smoked away his chances at being elite. Beckham was pretty much a bust here although Jarvis was solid. Andrew Berry is not strong at drafting WR's.

One thing I can say for your boys, they know how to draft receivers and edge rushers. Not so good with the secondary, other than Polamalu.

Talent-wise at receiver, sure. But seems like in recent years, they all under-achieve compared to said talent and tend to be major headcases, regardless of whether they are living up to that talent or not. Brown got "Burfict'd" into CTE Insanity land, Johnson seems to think he's a super-elite guy who hasn't been plagued by the drops and Pickens is currently showing the mental stability of a teen girl with huge self-esteem issues who just went through an ugly break-up. And that's not even getting into JuJu or Claypool and how their love of TikTok and Instagram far exceeded their desire to actually, you know, make plays.

Laley23

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Thu, Dec 14, 2023 3:18 PM

Browns officially sign Flacco for the rest of the NFL season. Everyone can calm down about someone else snagging him.

BR1986FB

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Thu, Dec 14, 2023 9:15 PM

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Al Bundy

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Fri, Dec 15, 2023 11:50 AM
posted by BR1986FB

If the league had Pittsburgh scheduled for those games, I'd have no doubt that the fix is in.

iclfan2

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 5:27 PM

Well that was exciting.

BRF

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 5:44 PM
posted by iclfan2

Well that was exciting.

No shit!

I am so happy that we have  a quarterback with poise, a very good defense AND the kicker…..wow!


gut

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 7:26 PM

Well, looking like CLE and BUF will claim two playoff spots, so leaves quite a logjam for the last one.  IND and HOU have a head-to-head left, and I think that probably decides the last spot.

Seems unlikely for 9-8 to be good enough, but incredibly PIT looks to be pretty well set-up for tie breakers.  They would get crushed, but they even look to be in at 9-8 with a bunch of teams there.  Win out, and they are probably in.  Not that I expect either scenario to happen, but can't bet against Tomlin finding a way to 9-8.

BR1986FB

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 7:31 PM
posted by BRF

Why in the world would you, Monty, neg that?

Pretty sure he's a Steeler fan, many of which are salty, because they're hot garbage.

Flacco & Ced Tillman gave the Bears 14 easy points or this one's a laugher. Had a bad feeling going into this game and had no idea how they pulled that out.

Defense played exceptional and Chicago did very little on offense.

The O-Line situation is concerning as they now have virtually no rushing attack and are one dimensional. I will not change my stance that Jerome Ford is trash and shouldn't be RB1.

I was waiting for the clock to strike midnight and for Flacco to turn into a pumpkin but he righted the ship late and put up gaudy numbers in the 4th quarter. 212 passing yards in a quarter is the most by a Browns QB in 45 years. The back to back 300 yard games are the first time since, again, Brian Sipe.

With all of these injuries mounting up, I'm still not convinced they will go into Houston and lose. I can see them finishing out at 11-6, possibly 12-5, depending on what they are playing for in Cincy. I think the Bengals will need to win out to get in.

BR1986FB

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 7:39 PM
posted by gut

Well, looking like CLE and BUF will claim two playoff spots, so leaves quite a logjam for the last one.  IND and HOU have a head-to-head left, and I think that probably decides the last spot.

Seems unlikely for 9-8 to be good enough, but incredibly PIT looks to be pretty well set-up for tie breakers.  They would get crushed, but they even look to be in at 9-8 with a bunch of teams there.  Win out, and they are probably in.  Not that I expect either scenario to happen, but can't bet against Tomlin finding a way to 9-8.

I think Cincinnati will possibly get to 10 wins but not sure how they'd do on a tiebreaker with Houston. Can't remember who won that head to head. 

Steelers will be lucky to win another game. The offense is anemic but WTF is up with the defense? Team just looks totally disinterested. After Indy spotted them 13 points, I said "looks like this playoff picture is going to tighten up." By the time we arrived at Mountaineer, they were down 14-13 at the half.

BR1986FB

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 7:39 PM

BR1986FB

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 7:53 PM

Cooper, Njoku, Moore & Teller are the only offensive starters left from the season opener. We'll see what happens with Bitonio going forward, but his back is locked up and said he "can't move." Mind boggling.

BRF

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 8:56 PM
posted by BR1986FB


I was waiting for the clock to strike midnight and for Flacco to turn into a pumpkin but he righted the ship late 

Yes, it appeared that way to me, too.  Well said.


gut

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 9:15 PM
posted by BR1986FB

I was waiting for the clock to strike midnight and for Flacco to turn into a pumpkin but he righted the ship late and put up gaudy numbers in the 4th quarter. 212 passing yards in a quarter is the most by a Browns QB in 45 years. The back to back 300 yard games are the first time since, again, Brian Sipe.

The play of a number of backups this year has been very surprising.  It's possible CLE is actually better with Flacco than Watson, but maybe Watson would finally be finding his old form.

Hard to know how much is just a poor offensive design, but even Kenny Pickett only looks about the 45th best QB in the league.  And Trubisky isn't any better.

BRF

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 10:02 PM

Just watched the replays of the Hail Mary and …… oof….Mooney almost had it. 

Ironman92

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Sun, Dec 17, 2023 10:05 PM
posted by BRF

Just watched the replays of the Hail Mary and …… oof….Mooney almost had it. 

I mean he’s a receiver and it went right to him out of the jump ball