Cleveland Browns 2023 Season Thread

Ironman92

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Tue, Nov 21, 2023 7:32 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Nice, for once, to see the Browns as a catalyst creating the firing, of a Steeler coach, mid-season instead of the (usual) other way around.

Catalyst or last straw? Regardless, thanks.


Ironman92

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Tue, Nov 21, 2023 7:33 PM

At Denver is a pain in the ass and a Wilson looks more like his old self. Browns should win and might win big, but Denver appears pretty game.

BR1986FB

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Tue, Nov 21, 2023 8:32 PM
posted by Ironman92

At Denver is a pain in the ass and a Wilson looks more like his old self. Browns should win and might win big, but Denver appears pretty game.

Unless the defense scores or the running game produces 3-4 TD's, I'm not counting on the Browns winning "big" in any of their remaining games with this passing offense. They will likely be nail biter slobber knockers won by the defense winning field position battles..

Ironman92

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Thu, Nov 23, 2023 10:40 PM

Browns vs Broncos in a couple days….this chart says no contest lol

BR1986FB

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Fri, Nov 24, 2023 6:58 AM
posted by Ironman92

Browns vs Broncos in a couple days….this chart says no contest lol

Offense has to score points so I'm sure it will be a contest. I see your reverse jinx crap...lol

Ironman92

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Fri, Nov 24, 2023 9:55 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Offense has to score points so I'm sure it will be a contest. I see your reverse jinx crap...lol

I’ve already made my stance on this game. At Denver is tough and I’m shocked Denver is where it is on that chart.


BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 7:28 AM

Yesterday was on Stefanski. You go up against the worst rushing defense in the league, surrendering 160 ypg, and you have your two horrible QB's throw it 42x's? Ford was averaging 7.2 ypc but let's run him 9x's.  And that double reverse? W-T-F? It's like Stefanski goes head to head with a HOF coach and he thinks he has to outsmart them instead of just doing the smart thing.

With the way the season's gone, injury-wise, I full expect Myles to be put on season ending IR after today's MRI.

Looking like it's Flacco time.

They can still get to 10 wins, and likely get in, but they just added another team (Broncos) that would beat them on tiebreakers. I expect Pittsburgh to be the 5 seed with 10-11 wins. There will be two more spots up for grabs.

Al Bundy

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 11:47 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Yesterday was on Stefanski. You go up against the worst rushing defense in the league, surrendering 160 ypg, and you have your two horrible QB's throw it 42x's? Ford was averaging 7.2 ypc but let's run him 9x's.  And that double reverse? W-T-F? It's like Stefanski goes head to head with a HOF coach and he thinks he has to outsmart them instead of just doing the smart thing.

With the way the season's gone, injury-wise, I full expect Myles to be put on season ending IR after today's MRI.

Looking like it's Flacco time.

They can still get to 10 wins, and likely get in, but they just added another team (Broncos) that would beat them on tiebreakers. I expect Pittsburgh to be the 5 seed with 10-11 wins. There will be two more spots up for grabs.

I agree with this. In addition, let your QB take the snap on 3rd or 4th and 1 instead of the TE, and just run a power play to Hunt. 

BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 11:57 AM
posted by Al Bundy

I agree with this. In addition, let your QB take the snap on 3rd or 4th and 1 instead of the TE, and just run a power play to Hunt. 

Yeah, I don't see the need for Bryant to be taking a snap there. They may practice it but it's not something he (Bryant) does repeatedly. Just another example of getting too cute.

BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 12:48 PM

Rumor is that the outlook, from the front office, on the Garrett shoulder injury is "dismal."

Ironman92

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 1:03 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Rumor is that the outlook, from the front office, on the Garrett shoulder injury is "dismal."

That’s a bad bad word….such a bad word I hope it’s only season ending (which is also dismal) 

I expect that word to be used for the worst of the worst. Hope the big guy will be ok in the long run and I wouldn’t count such a freak athlete to find a way to heal enough to give it a go in the post season or even the final regular season. I simply never count guys like him “out for the season”

Did they ever really show what happened? Brutal fucking sport.


BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 1:23 PM
posted by Ironman92

That’s a bad bad word….such a bad word I hope it’s only season ending (which is also dismal) 

I expect that word to be used for the worst of the worst. Hope the big guy will be ok in the long run and I wouldn’t count such a freak athlete to find a way to heal enough to give it a go in the post season or even the final regular season. I simply never count guys like him “out for the season”

Did they ever really show what happened? Brutal fucking sport.


I just heard that Garrett heard a "pop" and that he couldn't lift his arm to high five his teammates. Biggest question there is "where in that game did the Browns do anything 'high five' worthy?"  Just hope it's a rumor because this was the likely year for him to get that DPOY.

Ironman92

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 2:04 PM
posted by BR1986FB

I just heard that Garrett heard a "pop" and that he couldn't lift his arm to high five his teammates. Biggest question there is "where in that game did the Browns do anything 'high five' worthy?"  Just hope it's a rumor because this was the likely year for him to get that DPOY.

I lol’d at the high five worthy


Laley23

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 2:04 PM

Browns dominated that game for 2 quarters... then DTR got hurt. 

And Stefanski running the ball was 50/50 on 1st downs. I think I wouldve doubled up a bit more, but I cant say he didnt try and run it. Also, the 3 most pass heavy drives (outside 2 min, and end of game comeback) went FG / FG / TD. 

Ironman92

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 2:07 PM
posted by Laley23

Browns dominated that game for 2 quarters... then DTR got hurt. 

And Stefanski running the ball was 50/50 on 1st downs. I think I wouldve doubled up a bit more, but I cant say he didnt try and run it. Also, the 3 most pass heavy drives (outside 2 min, and end of game comeback) went FG / FG / TD. 

Dominated? By 1st downs or what?


Al Bundy

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 2:35 PM
posted by Laley23

Browns dominated that game for 2 quarters... then DTR got hurt. 

And Stefanski running the ball was 50/50 on 1st downs. I think I wouldve doubled up a bit more, but I cant say he didnt try and run it. Also, the 3 most pass heavy drives (outside 2 min, and end of game comeback) went FG / FG / TD. 

Dominated the game? We got our asses kicked. DTR sucked. It wouldn't have mattered if he stayed in the game. At halftime, Ford was averaging about 9 yards per carry, and Hunt was averaging about 4.5, but Stefanski kept throwing the ball.

The only chance that we have the rest of the way is to run the ball and let Flacco be a game manager. There is no reason that we should be throwing the ball 40+ times every game.

Laley23

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 2:41 PM
posted by Ironman92

Dominated? By 1st downs or what?

So not quite a full 2 Qs, but this stretch, after the shellshock of the 1st Q, Browns had settled in nicely and if DTR doesn't get hurt, I think they have a shot. 

  • Browns Drive - 13 plays, 57 yards, 5:12, FG
  • Broncos Drive - 5 plays, 14 yards, 2:55, punt
  • Browns Drive - 11 Plays, 67 yards, 2:42, FG

END of HALF

  • Broncos Drive - 3 plays, 6 yards, 1:54, punt
  • Browns Drive - 13 plays, 79 yards, 6:24, TD
  • Broncos Drive - 9 plays, 70 yards, 5:17, FG
  • Browns Drive - DTR hurt, turnover when he is out, game essentially ended at that point. 

BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 3:38 PM
posted by Laley23

So not quite a full 2 Qs, but this stretch, after the shellshock of the 1st Q, Browns had settled in nicely and if DTR doesn't get hurt, I think they have a shot. 

  • Browns Drive - 13 plays, 57 yards, 5:12, FG
  • Broncos Drive - 5 plays, 14 yards, 2:55, punt
  • Browns Drive - 11 Plays, 67 yards, 2:42, FG

END of HALF

  • Broncos Drive - 3 plays, 6 yards, 1:54, punt
  • Browns Drive - 13 plays, 79 yards, 6:24, TD
  • Broncos Drive - 9 plays, 70 yards, 5:17, FG
  • Browns Drive - DTR hurt, turnover when he is out, game essentially ended at that point. 

I don't necessarily think you're totally wrong there. One of my frustrations with the lack of run game is that I thought DTR should've had more planned runs to keep the defense honest.

Big X Factor was "could the defense stop Denver?" which my answer would be "no." Once Garrett got injured there was no pass rush. 

DTR did fine but once PJ "I'm good for at least 2 turnovers a game" Walker came in it was over.

The stupid reverse was a panic move by KS.

BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 3:40 PM
posted by Ironman92

Dominated? By 1st downs or what?


The offense was starting to settle in before DTR got injured and PJ "I just dropped a Tootsie Roll in your swimming pool at the party and then left" Walker arrived.

And don't get me started because I have a slew of nicknames for Walker and most of them are feces related. Straight. Up. Turd.

Ironman92

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 4:14 PM

Garrett sore but day to day

BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 4:26 PM
posted by Ironman92

Garrett sore but day to day

Which with this group's track record probably means his arm fell off.

Ironman92

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 4:42 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Which with this group's track record probably means his arm fell off.

If so I’m in to buy it and use it as a leg


BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 4:48 PM

LOL

BR1986FB

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 4:52 PM

Stefanski said that he expects Myles to play Sunday?

Ironman92

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Mon, Nov 27, 2023 5:12 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Stefanski said that he expects Myles to play Sunday?

Seems odd he’s on the sideline vs Denver but going to play this week