2023 NFL Regular Season

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Dec 19, 2023 10:21 AM

I just dont think its hard to not turn a shoulder and deliver a hit. If you are turning a shoulder, its because you dont want keep head up and tackle while risking youre own head and health. Every DB and LB tackles this way, and I simply do not understand it outside of trying to inflict the most pain as opposed to making a tackle. But when you do it, and then clock a guy in the head and neck before he even lands, your gonna get fucked by the league -- its the exact hit that they will show in the offseason on what NOT to do. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Dec 19, 2023 4:16 PM

The Mekhi Becton dig was good. 

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 20, 2023 8:37 PM

They don't call him the "Cheetah" for nothing...

Ironman92

Administrator

Wed, Dec 20, 2023 8:56 PM

Could not be less surprised

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 20, 2023 9:17 PM

Guy seems like an all around dirtbag but no one cares because he’s fast. 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 5:03 PM

I swear this happened like 10 years ago. It's been 20?

Ironman92

Administrator

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 5:10 PM
posted by justincredible

I swear this happened like 10 years ago. It's been 20?

Seems like 15-16 years to me

It was awesomely dumb


Ironman92

Administrator

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 9:52 PM

NFC South is atrocious

Ironman92

Administrator

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 11:16 PM

My power rankings

1. 49ers

2. Ravens….I still don’t fully trust them 

3. Chiefs….I still trust them maybe more than I should

4. Eagles…still time but better right the ship 

5. Dolphins (beware their crappy schedule)

6. Lions…my feel good bandwagon team, but don’t greatly trust

7. Cowboys….most likely to win by 4 TD and lose by 4 TD in the playoffs

8. Browns…can Flacco stay young? He’s up to age 30

9. Bills….I might be buying this as their year. Something looks different since they were 5-6 and “out of it”….Allen will be the key and can’t be a turnover machine

10. Bengals….great line and weapons. Must stay hungry.

11. Texans…no Stroud this week kills in a huge game. I like their OC and what a great turnaround 

12. Jaguars….still time to get it back but we’ll see

13. Seahawks…if I’m big contender, I’m rooting for them to not make the playoffs or get beat in round 1

14. Colts…little trust here but have had a nice season

15. Rams….have became somewhat dangerous

16. Vikings…boring but more functional than 1/2 the league

17. Buccaneers….beat team in the NFC South. Bleh

18. Broncos…don’t forget about them just yet for the postseason but they aren’t scaring anyone

19. Raiders….things get weak here lol

20. Packers…. 🤷🏻‍♂️, they’ve shown signs but maybe next year

21. Steelers…..dumpster fire hoping for some “because NFL wins”…playing bottom 1 or 2 but wins over 3 top 10 teams keep them from season bottom tier

22. Saints…I am WATCHING their game as I type this and they are the team inkeft off on the first run through. That’s telling.

23. Bears….no sense for the dramatic lol

24. Jets….maybe next year

25.  Falcons….ass

26.  Titans…I like Levis but Vrabel seems disinterested 

27. Giants

28. Commanders

29. Patriots

30. Cardinals

31. Chargers…crazy

32. Panthers

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 6:17 AM
posted by Ironman92

My power rankings

1. 49ers

2. Ravens….I still don’t fully trust them 

3. Chiefs….I still trust them maybe more than I should

4. Eagles…still time but better right the ship 

5. Dolphins (beware their crappy schedule)

6. Lions…my feel good bandwagon team, but don’t greatly trust

7. Cowboys….most likely to win by 4 TD and lose by 4 TD in the playoffs

8. Browns…can Flacco stay young? He’s up to age 30

9. Bills….I might be buying this as their year. Something looks different since they were 5-6 and “out of it”….Allen will be the key and can’t be a turnover machine

10. Bengals….great line and weapons. Must stay hungry.

11. Texans…no Stroud this week kills in a huge game. I like their OC and what a great turnaround 

12. Jaguars….still time to get it back but we’ll see

13. Seahawks…if I’m big contender, I’m rooting for them to not make the playoffs or get beat in round 1

14. Colts…little trust here but have had a nice season

15. Rams….have became somewhat dangerous

16. Vikings…boring but more functional than 1/2 the league

17. Buccaneers….beat team in the NFC South. Bleh

18. Broncos…don’t forget about them just yet for the postseason but they aren’t scaring anyone

19. Raiders….things get weak here lol

20. Packers…. 🤷🏻‍♂️, they’ve shown signs but maybe next year

21. Steelers…..dumpster fire hoping for some “because NFL wins”…playing bottom 1 or 2 but wins over 3 top 10 teams keep them from season bottom tier

22. Saints…I am WATCHING their game as I type this and they are the team inkeft off on the first run through. That’s telling.

23. Bears….no sense for the dramatic lol

24. Jets….maybe next year

25.  Falcons….ass

26.  Titans…I like Levis but Vrabel seems disinterested 

27. Giants

28. Commanders

29. Patriots

30. Cardinals

31. Chargers…crazy

32. Panthers

ESPN used their "simulator" to predict the last 3 games, determining who makes the playoffs. They had the Browns getting destroyed by Houston 33-10 this week, then squeaking by the Jets by one point and beating the Bengals the final week, getting in as the 5 seed. They had Pittsburgh beating the Bengals this week, by one, then losing out to go 8-9. They had the Bengals losing their last 3 games. They said this simulator was very accurate last year. I'm thinking not so much this year.

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 8:47 AM

I could see the bengals blowing it this weekend. The parts are all there. Game they should win, should be eager to win after Pittsburgh beat them at home few weeks ago, need it to stay alive, Pittsburgh season might as well be over. This is a game Bengals lose by ten. 

I predict KC vs Baltimore AFC title game. Baltimore skates by each week with an unimpressive win, KC figures out their offense enough and Toney even makes some big plays. Media does that thing where they make us feel like fools for doubting him/them late in the season. San Francisco wins each playoff game by double digits. 

Also, hot take, but there should be more conversation about changing the playoff format. TB will probably get in because they’re the best out of a miserable division. If they were in the AFC they wouldn’t come close to making it. 

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 9:21 AM

Woof....I'm hearing rumblings that Tomlin may have interest in being traded to the Commanders or Chargers. I still think he's a good motivator but has no control over his locker room with guys like Pickens, Diontae Johnson and previously Antonio Brown. This stat, ouch....

Ironman92

Administrator

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 10:04 AM

The simulators and all of the playoff percentages are just crap. What were the numbers 3 weeks ago? Vastly different for many many teams. The games are on the field.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 10:27 AM
posted by Ironman92

The simulators and all of the playoff percentages are just crap. What were the numbers 3 weeks ago? Vastly different for many many teams. The games are on the field.

I agree. If the Browns get boat raced by a Case Keenum lead Texans team, by 23 points, they don't deserve to be in. 

If that were to happen, either the defense imploded or Flacco threw multiple pick 6's. 

The Texans running game worries me more than Keenum, who can't throw a ball more than 20 yards.

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 10:33 AM
posted by Ironman92

My power rankings

1. 49ers

2. Ravens….I still don’t fully trust them 

3. Chiefs….I still trust them maybe more than I should

4. Eagles…still time but better right the ship 

5. Dolphins (beware their crappy schedule)

6. Lions…my feel good bandwagon team, but don’t greatly trust

7. Cowboys….most likely to win by 4 TD and lose by 4 TD in the playoffs

8. Browns…can Flacco stay young? He’s up to age 30

9. Bills….I might be buying this as their year. Something looks different since they were 5-6 and “out of it”….Allen will be the key and can’t be a turnover machine

10. Bengals….great line and weapons. Must stay hungry.

11. Texans…no Stroud this week kills in a huge game. I like their OC and what a great turnaround 

12. Jaguars….still time to get it back but we’ll see

13. Seahawks…if I’m big contender, I’m rooting for them to not make the playoffs or get beat in round 1

14. Colts…little trust here but have had a nice season

15. Rams….have became somewhat dangerous

16. Vikings…boring but more functional than 1/2 the league

17. Buccaneers….beat team in the NFC South. Bleh

18. Broncos…don’t forget about them just yet for the postseason but they aren’t scaring anyone

19. Raiders….things get weak here lol

20. Packers…. 🤷🏻‍♂️, they’ve shown signs but maybe next year

21. Steelers…..dumpster fire hoping for some “because NFL wins”…playing bottom 1 or 2 but wins over 3 top 10 teams keep them from season bottom tier

22. Saints…I am WATCHING their game as I type this and they are the team inkeft off on the first run through. That’s telling.

23. Bears….no sense for the dramatic lol

24. Jets….maybe next year

25.  Falcons….ass

26.  Titans…I like Levis but Vrabel seems disinterested 

27. Giants

28. Commanders

29. Patriots

30. Cardinals

31. Chargers…crazy

32. Panthers

Sign of parity since the Browns at 8 have beat both of the top 2 teams. Yet lost to the Steelers at 21


BR1986FB

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 10:45 AM

I've seen a lot of these power rankings with the Bills in the top 5 and they aren't even leading their division.

Ironman92

Administrator

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 11:11 AM
posted by BR1986FB

I agree. If the Browns get boat raced by a Case Keenum lead Texans team, by 23 points, they don't deserve to be in. 

If that were to happen, either the defense imploded or Flacco threw multiple pick 6's. 

The Texans running game worries me more than Keenum, who can't throw a ball more than 20 yards.

I think with Stroud it’s a great game….like I guessed with Fields. Keenum isn’t mobile enough and the Browns DB’s can cover. I see a 24-16 game


Ironman92

Administrator

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 11:14 AM

Before Covid he was the daily insanity of twitter and the sports world.

It’s crazy how good he was once upon a time.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 11:28 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Woof....I'm hearing rumblings that Tomlin may have interest in being traded to the Commanders or Chargers. I still think he's a good motivator but has no control over his locker room with guys like Pickens, Diontae Johnson and previously Antonio Brown. This stat, ouch...

His problem is he can't coach, and has struggled massively to hire people that can coach. 

If you have enough talent to overcome that, and you're happy to settle for non-losing seasons, then Tomlin is definitely your guy.

Hopefully someone is dumb enough to trade for him.  But he has NO coaching tree, which is probably the best indication of what league insiders actually think about what Tomlin has done.  Some owner will probably cave to their irrational fan base, though.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 11:28 AM
posted by jmog

Sign of parity since the Browns at 8 have beat both of the top 2 teams. Yet lost to the Steelers at 21


I think another sign of parity is how quickly you get into the list and see teams that you think have major issues that could/should hurt them in a playoff run. With this one, it took me all the way to #3 (those wide receivers and their drops) and then followed that up with #4 (three straight losses, two by blowout against good teams and one against a mediocre team where they led most of the way but couldn't put them away, and then gave up an amazing drive in crunch time).

And then you go down the list and see teams ranked lower that you'd probably have more faith in at the current time. Even though they're not assured of being in the playoffs and the way this year has gone, could easily hit a slump and wind up on the outside.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 11:33 AM
posted by Heretic

And then you go down the list and see teams ranked lower that you'd probably have more faith in at the current time. Even though they're not assured of being in the playoffs and the way this year has gone, could easily hit a slump and wind up on the outside.

Feels like it's been that way for a while, with really only about 4 teams a notch above and a huge group of 10-15 behind separated more or less by a few plays here and there, or injuries.

I imagine coaches have also adjusted to the fact that 7 teams now make the playoffs, and there's only one bye.  It's definitely an art to getting your team to peak in January.  I think, for a lot of coaches, that probably trumps seeding.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 11:35 AM
posted by BR1986FB

I've seen a lot of these power rankings with the Bills in the top 5 and they aren't even leading their division.

I can understand that if the rankings are based simply on how they are playing now and only that. Winning at KC and blowing out Dallas at home is probably the best current two-game stretch of anyone --- even if they still aren't currently in the playoffs and likely will have to turn that two-game stretch into just not fucking losing ever again due to having about zero tiebreakers in their favor.