And that grounding was an obvious call and I was surprised they missed it in real time.

posted by Laley23

The refs made some questionable calls. But lets not forget they took an Interception away and a TD away from the Chiefs on "bang-bang" calls. Game isnt even close, likely, without those going in the direction of Cincy. 

And Cincinnati had the ball TWICE, with a chance to win or go up late, and they threw a pick and punted. And the punt, for whatever reason, didnt go OB. They allowed a 30 yard return. The loss was 100% on Cincinnati not executing in the clutch, and Mahomes doing what Mahomes does with a the ball and a chance to win. 

Seemed to me that KC kept shooting themselves in the foot. Thought the margin of victory should've been a bit more and kept saying "this is going to come back to bite them" every time they settled for FG's. In the end, it didn't.

the KC/Cinci game was a very poorly officiated game. But the bengals made more mistakes than the chiefs so i can live with the result. I honestly think the Eagles are going to dog walk the Chiefs but who knows. KC will have some time to get healthy at WR and QB, so that may change some things.

Cinci had better invest heavily in the O-line this offseason. sign Orlando Brown, sign McGlinchey, draft 2-3 more. they have to fix that O-line if they ever want to take that next step. Its not enough to get 5 starters. they have to get 8 players there. probably need to look at coaching too because burrow was running for his life yesterday and the play call never emphasized the run at all to keep the KC defense from pinning the ears back and running.

posted by j_crazy

the KC/Cinci game was a very poorly officiated game. But the bengals made more mistakes than the chiefs so i can live with the result. I honestly think the Eagles are going to dog walk the Chiefs but who knows. KC will have some time to get healthy at WR and QB, so that may change some things.

Cinci had better invest heavily in the O-line this offseason. sign Orlando Brown, sign McGlinchey, draft 2-3 more. they have to fix that O-line if they ever want to take that next step. Its not enough to get 5 starters. they have to get 8 players there. probably need to look at coaching too because burrow was running for his life yesterday and the play call never emphasized the run at all to keep the KC defense from pinning the ears back and running.

I know that every fan wants their team in the SB but Bengals fans may have dodged a bullet. With that O-Line play and Philly's pass rush/defense, old (cigar) Smokin' Joe might have left the field on a cart. Prior to the season I said that the guys that they added to their O-Line (maybe not Collins) were JAG's. 

Not sure of the Bengals cap situation (can they afford the guys you mentioned?) but they should have a sense of urgency while Burrow's on his rookie deal. When that hits there's no way they're keeping all of those weapons AND Burrow unless something happens with the cap going up significantly.

In defense of the coaching, their O-Line coach made some good adjustments after that initial sack fest. KC didn't get another one until late in the game.

posted by BR1986FB

That's something a Browns player would do in a crucial moment.

 .......... has done .......

posted by QuakerOats

 .......... has done .......

Dwayne Rudd

I will say that I can't remember a team going from babyface to heel in a week's time.

Last week the Bengals were a sympathetic team that was getting screwed, having to go into Buffalo with a depleted offensive line to pull off an improbably victory.

This week, they have players and their mayor talking "Burrowhead" shit and positioned themselves as a team many wanted to see get beat.

posted by Laley23

The refs made some questionable calls. But lets not forget they took an Interception away and a TD away from the Chiefs on "bang-bang" calls. Game isnt even close, likely, without those going in the direction of Cincy. 

And Cincinnati had the ball TWICE, with a chance to win or go up late, and they threw a pick and punted. And the punt, for whatever reason, didnt go OB. They allowed a 30 yard return. The loss was 100% on Cincinnati not executing in the clutch, and Mahomes doing what Mahomes does with a the ball and a chance to win. 

You mean the INT that was negated because of DPI, either in the third of fourth quarter?

posted by friendfromlowry

You mean the INT that was negated because of DPI, either in the third of fourth quarter?

Yeah. I am not arguing the calls were wrong. I am arguing that KC didnt "get all the calls". Cincinnati benefitted as well.

posted by Laley23

Yeah. I am not arguing the calls were wrong. I am arguing that KC didnt "get all the calls". Cincinnati benefitted as well.

Both teams benefitted. The TD that Pacheco ran in was a phantom hold. Chiefs got calls as well.

I know there's been accusations about this before but seems a bit far fetched...

https://clesportstalk.com/rigged-nfl-its-not-just-the-refs-the-professional-actor-players-are-in-on-it-too/?fbclid=IwAR2eY7XaG4SJd4ZJAPTkXpsBlUajBNRb6sdjOapk13jYw3ThxVSNJ-Ybkqs

posted by BR1986FB

I know there's been accusations about this before but seems a bit far fetched...

https://clesportstalk.com/rigged-nfl-its-not-just-the-refs-the-professional-actor-players-are-in-on-it-too/?fbclid=IwAR2eY7XaG4SJd4ZJAPTkXpsBlUajBNRb6sdjOapk13jYw3ThxVSNJ-Ybkqs

I just think there's way too many people for a coverup like that.. especially people who are in and out of the league fast.. to just keep a story going like that. 

The only caveat is there's been countless times I've watched players from the losing team walk off the field and thought... man they don't seem as upset as you'd think they'd be lol .

posted by kizer permanente

I just think there's way too many people for a coverup like that.. especially people who are in and out of the league fast.. to just keep a story going like that. 

Where I can't fathom it is some situations where ridiculous circle catches are made to win games. Or Hail Mary's like the triple coverage on DeAndre Hopkins where he caught the GW touchdown. If it's fixed what happens if they drop it?

posted by BR1986FB

Where I can't fathom it is some situations where ridiculous circle catches are made to win games. Or Hail Mary's like the triple coverage on DeAndre Hopkins where he caught the GW touchdown. If it's fixed what happens if they drop it?

yeah... way too many variables. 

Well, it isnt fixed. So wondering those things is just a waste of time lol.

I can see the league and refs being involved, but not the players.

posted by BR1986FB

I know there's been accusations about this before but seems a bit far fetched...

https://clesportstalk.com/rigged-nfl-its-not-just-the-refs-the-professional-actor-players-are-in-on-it-too/?fbclid=IwAR2eY7XaG4SJd4ZJAPTkXpsBlUajBNRb6sdjOapk13jYw3ThxVSNJ-Ybkqs

And people think I have too much time on my hands. That’s an impressive reach.

posted by justincredible

I can see the league and refs being involved, but not the players.

How and why? Did Cincinnati provide awful numbers JUST LAST YEAR so they said, 'nah cant have those guys in there again.'? Conspiring to make the Giants and Jets suck for this long? Moving a team from LA to STL? Dallas is by far the biggest draw, so lets make sure they never make an NFC Title game again, let alone a Super Bowl -- doing great, 2 decades now! 

Nothing about a conspiracy would even line-up to what the league would want, only the fan base that perceives themselves as being slighted. It would also be next to impossible to keep that from coming out. 

I'm not saying it's happening, I'm just saying I can see it at that level but not below.

And probably more Vegas and the Refs than the league.

Was listening to a national guy on the drive home and the question was about the refs. He said "the NFL KNOWS it has a referee problem." He also went on to say that a lot of it is because the players continue to get faster & faster and they can't keep up on all of the calls. Essentially, the solution (according to him) would be to make most stuff reviewable. The games are already long enough.

posted by BR1986FB

Was listening to a national guy on the drive home and the question was about the refs. He said "the NFL KNOWS it has a referee problem." He also went on to say that a lot of it is because the players continue to get faster & faster and they can't keep up on all of the calls. Essentially, the solution (according to him) would be to make most stuff reviewable. The games are already long enough.

Can they not insta-review in the league office and buzz down to the refs without the need for on-field review? I can't imagine that adding a ton of time. Also, the games are pretty short.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Posted by every female Bengals fan on my FB…most of which can’t name the Bengals QB before Burrow.

posted by Ironman92

Posted by every female Bengals fan on my FB…most of which can’t name the Bengals QB before Burrow.

Boomer Esaison