posted by Fletch

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/18/politics/joe-biden-russia-ukraine/index.html

He doesnt know WTF is going on and even if he did, he is not doing a damn thing.  He is a pussy

To bad you’re not in charge.  Being that you seem to be 3-4 moves ahead of Putin at any stage.  

You’d probably have to go back to Reagan to find a US president equipped to deal with the likes of Vlad  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

To bad you’re not in charge.  Being that you seem to be 3-4 moves ahead of Putin at any stage.  

You’d probably have to go back to Reagan to find a US president equipped to deal with the likes of Vlad  

We can just go back a few years to Trump.  100% sure that if he was president,  Putin wouldn’t be doing this.

Remember when Obama sent blankets as military aid?  I do.

Remember what Trump sent?

posted by Fletch

We can just go back a few years to Trump.  100% sure that if he was president,  Putin wouldn’t be doing this.

Remember when Obama sent blankets as military aid?  I do.

Remember what Trump sent?

I don’t think Trump would have affected Putin’s actions one iota.  Trump desperately sought the guy’s approval for Christ’s sake.  Neither would Obama, W, Bubba, or Bush Sr.  

Put your fanboy love aside and realize that we haven’t had a leader equipped to deal with the likes of Putin for a long time.  This is a concerning trend in our politics,  

I'm not sure what Biden could do differently, or what would be a better course of action.

And as I've said many times, POTUS makes the final call, but he is HEAVILY influenced by career staffers, right down to the speeches.  Same goes for every other POTUS.  President is basically a cheerleader and policy shill.

Also, the weapons "Trump gave" to Ukraine were actually approved by the prior administration.  That was the big scandal that Trump tried to delay/prevent it to pressure Ukraine to investigate Biden.

You guys arent close here.

Trump would not have given Putin his pipeline for nothing.  Biden gave Putin the leverage for free.  

And I will say it again.....Biden has no clue what is going on.  He is not making any decisions.

LOL @ Kamala Harris saying there will be "swift & severe consequences" if Russia invades Ukraine. What's she going to do, giggle like a stupid school girl, like she always does? I'm sure Putin is curled up in the fetal position in fear.

posted by BR1986FB

LOL @ Kamala Harris saying there will be "swift & severe consequences" if Russia invades Ukraine. What's she going to do, giggle like a stupid school girl, like she always does? I'm sure Putin is curled up in the fetal position in fear.

Willy Brown knows how swift she is

This has nothing to with any US president.  Its about restoring the Russian empire.  This shit is as old as time in this part of the world.  Let Putin figure out if he has ordered enough body bags.

I don’t get why we are all ready to defend Ukraine they are not really a democracy. 

posted by majorspark

This has nothing to with any US president.  Its about restoring the Russian empire.  This shit is as old as time in this part of the world.  Let Putin figure out if he has ordered enough body bags.

Bingo.  Instead we get BS from presidents that - fill in the enemy - hates our freedom or hates democracy or whatever, proving they have no understanding of historical context.  This is why we get involved in centuries old conflicts and wonder why they turn into clusterfucks.  

The Russians and Ukrainians should be left to figure this out.  We’re not going to do anything - and aren’t capable of doing anything - to make a difference.  This predates the US by hundreds of years.  

posted by majorspark

This has nothing to with any US president.

But it might have something to do with the son of a POTUS....

:)

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The Russians and Ukrainians should be left to figure this out.  We’re not going to do anything - and aren’t capable of doing anything - to make a difference.  This predates the US by hundreds of years.  

Unfortunately this is not going to happen.  US diplomats and NATO staff have relocated from the capital Kiev to Lviv which is less than 40 miles from the Polish border.  The Carpathian mountains extend through several NATO countries into the Ukraine just to the south.  Extra NATO troop deployments have been made to two of those nations.  Poland and Romania.

The British prime minister has stated "it is in our collective interest that Russia should ultimately fail and be seen to fail".  Western leaders know they can't stop an invasion directly but are currently plotting to heavily arm the resistance and there will be a resistance.  The aid will likely flow through a couple of those NATO countries that border Ukraine on the west.

Buckle up, put in the ear buds, and listen to black sabbath "war pigs".  Just about sums it up.

posted by majorspark

Unfortunately this is not going to happen.  US diplomats and NATO staff have relocated from the capital Kiev to Lviv which is less than 40 miles from the Polish border.  The Carpathian mountains extend through several NATO countries into the Ukraine just to the south.  Extra NATO troop deployments have been made to two of those nations.  Poland and Romania.

The British prime minister has stated "it is in our collective interest that Russia should ultimately fail and be seen to fail".  Western leaders know they can't stop an invasion directly but are currently plotting to heavily arm the resistance and there will be a resistance.  The aid will likely flow through a couple of those NATO countries that border Ukraine on the west.

Buckle up, put in the ear buds, and listen to black sabbath "war pigs".  Just about sums it up.

And we certainly don’t have the leadership to navigate any of that.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

And we certainly don’t have the leadership to navigate any of that.

No we don’t unless there is a grift in it,  then the Biden’s will go knuckle deep into it

Looks like the 80's are calling again.

posted by majorspark

Looks like the 80's are calling again.

Remember when Obama laughed at Romney for saying Russia was a big threat?

Good times…

The last four presidents (including the current one) have had absolutely no understanding of Russia or Putin.  

America and the west forget that Russia doesn't forget.

So what’s the prediction on the Ukraine invasion? This gonna last awhile?

posted by iclfan2

So what’s the prediction on the Ukraine invasion? This gonna last awhile?

Does Sleepy Joe even know about it?

posted by QuakerOats

Does Sleepy Joe even know about it?

I'm sure he's heard about it if only because his predecessor is polishing Putin's knob at every opportunity.  

posted by QuakerOats

Does Sleepy Joe even know about it?

He’s addressing the nation later. Can’t wait to hear Fletch’s feedback resembling something like “He’s being a pussy! We should be over there beating everyone up!”

posted by friendfromlowry

He’s addressing the nation later. Can’t wait to hear Fletch’s feedback resembling something like “He’s being a pussy! We should be over there beating everyone up!”

No hurry; why not wait till next week to give a useless speech. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I'm sure he's heard about it if only because his predecessor is polishing Putin's knob at every opportunity.  

LOL ..... figures you would fall for CNN's spin.   

posted by friendfromlowry

He’s addressing the nation later. Can’t wait to hear Fletch’s feedback resembling something like “He’s being a pussy! We should be over there beating everyone up!”

He is addressing the nation on a speech he didnt write and wasted countless days practicing it while ALL americans are losing income, retirement $ and letting countries run wild.