posted by Ironman92The Dems on my FB are all running with the clever joke of “now who is the old guy running for president?”
They are insufferable
Incredibly predictable. They don't realize no one cared that Joe was old, it's that he acted even older than he was. Not really a problem with Trump.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Really? It has been talked about for months, you just weren't paying attention. Hell, I even mentioned it months ago.
This story is from November 2023....
Trump and allies plot revenge, Justice Department control in a second term
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/trump-revenge-second-term/
For many of the folks on here that do not like Presidential power, they should not be in favor of what project 2025 is outlining.
Really? You just weren’t paying attention.
They actually have statistics on this on how much something is mentioned on MSM and Social Media.
It blew up, went “viral” and became the only thing the left would talk about since the debate.
I think everyone understands I didn’t mean it was mentioned exactly zero times before the debate, but even a “centrist” like yourself has to understand that it’s the only thing the left wants to bring up now after the debate debacle.
My question was did Trump do anything to squash it calling it far right wing hogwash basically?
posted by ptown_trojans_1Leaking? No, directly calling for him to drop out. In the end, everyone realized but Biden. He finally came to his senses.
What senses?
Oh wait, we can’t talk about that unless we are doctors right?
Dude. We get it.
posted by jmogReally? You just weren’t paying attention.
They actually have statistics on this on how much something is mentioned on MSM and Social Media.
It blew up, went “viral” and became the only thing the left would talk about since the debate.
I think everyone understands I didn’t mean it was mentioned exactly zero times before the debate, but even a “centrist” like yourself has to understand that it’s the only thing the left wants to bring up now after the debate debacle.
My question was did Trump do anything to squash it calling it far right wing hogwash basically?
Right...
If you do a search history online for Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation and Kevin Roberts, I am pretty sure you are going to get a lot of hits before the debate.
The NYT did a long interview with him in January. It did go viral post debate, but it out there well before.
The Heritage Foundation is not some fringe hogwash. They are the republican think tank in DC. Kevin Roberts goes on Fox News and Fox Business a lot. He spoke at the Convention last week and even about Project 2025. Look it up.
To answer your last question, no. As in Trump has previously mentioned it in speech, look that one up.
He also will be employing people in his administration that had a hand in the Project or have views in favor of it. So while he may not like some parts of it, there will be officials from places like Heritage, that will try and implement it.
Some time ago I brought up The 65 Project which is a group going after Trump's lawyers. Because apparently everybody is supposed to get equal treatment under the law and legal representation under the law - except Trump. I don't recall anybody caring about it too much.
But now we are supposed to care about some groups fap dream because it doesn't want to pay for programs like Head Start.
As for implementation, the only Project that is engaging *right now" is 65 Project.
Both 65 Project and Project 2025 are shit. Can we agree on that much?
posted by CenterBHSFanSome time ago I brought up The 65 Project which is a group going after Trump's lawyers. Because apparently everybody is supposed to get equal treatment under the law and legal representation under the law - except Trump. I don't recall anybody caring about it too much.
But now we are supposed to care about some groups fap dream because it doesn't want to pay for programs like Head Start.
As for implementation, the only Project that is engaging *right now" is 65 Project.
Both 65 Project and Project 2025 are shit. Can we agree on that much?
So your take on project 2025 and why people have a problem is because they dont want to pay for head start? Interesting. I have never heard of project 65 but im not surprised you found something to blame it on dems while diminishing what the R's are doing. Im no expert on 2025 but from what i have seen of the platform i dont think head start was the issue although im sure they dont want to pay for headstart lol.
posted by geeblockSo your take on project 2025 and why people have a problem is because they dont want to pay for head start? Interesting. I have never heard of project 65 but im not surprised you found something to blame it on dems while diminishing what the R's are doing. Im no expert on 2025 but from what i have seen of the platform i dont think head start was the issue although im sure they dont want to pay for headstart lol.
Well, I actually went to the site and have read a goodly portion of it so far. The example that I have is just one of the things that I have read so far in the tabs i have looked at. I haven't finished looking at it yet and might not because there is a lot of content there. From what I have read so far it seems to be taking aim at entitlements.
Maybe try looking into it yourself instead of trying to take issue with what somebody else has summarized from it so far?
But look, if you are only interested in uninformed snark, I probably shouldn't try to stop you because that will make the coming days that much more fun for me.
posted by CenterBHSFanWell, I actually went to the site and have read a goodly portion of it so far. The example that I have is just one of the things that I have read so far in the tabs i have looked at. I haven't finished looking at it yet and might not because there is a lot of content there. From what I have read so far it seems to be taking aim at entitlements.
Maybe try looking into it yourself instead of trying to take issue with what somebody else has summarized from it so far?
But look, if you are only interested in uninformed snark, I probably shouldn't try to stop you because that will make the coming days that much more fun for me.
It took 5 minutes to see that Head Start isnt in the top 20 reasons that people dont like it, im just noting the way you paint the narrative between the things each party does and thought it was interesting.
posted by geeblockIt took 5 minutes to see that Head Start isnt in the top 20 reasons that people dont like it, im just noting the way you paint the narrative between the things each party does and thought it was interesting.
I'm talking about what is in the details, not about what people like or don't like have to say about it. Are you more interested in what the info contains or are you more interested in reactions?
Go read at least some of it.
posted by CenterBHSFanI'm talking about what is in the details, not about what people like or don't like have to say about it. Are you more interested in what the info contains or are you more interested in reactions?
Go read at least some of it.
You arent talking about the big details tho. You picked a very innoccous one.
posted by geeblockYou arent talking about the big details tho. You picked a very innoccous one.
As I've said, I haven't read all of it and might not. It's a huge collection of ideas. Maybe somebody like Ptown will read all of it; even though he is more into foreign policy.
Let's try this:
Prove anything, any one thing I've said, wrong.
posted by CenterBHSFanAs I've said, I haven't read all of it and might not. It's a huge collection of ideas. Maybe somebody like Ptown will read all of it; even though he is more into foreign policy.
Let's try this:
Prove anything, any one thing I've said, wrong.
u literally said nothing lol that was what i was getting at. u summed up 900 pages into "well they are against head start" why should i be upset. which is factually correct just kind of funny.
posted by geeblocku literally said nothing lol that was what i was getting at. u summed up 900 pages into "well they are against head start" why should i be upset. which is factually correct just kind of funny.
It's really is funny because you've got no other criticism of what I've said outside of the fact that I haven't read the whole thing.
posted by gutI know who Vance is, just don't know much about his policies.
Let's just say they changed DRAMATICALLY when he ran for Senate.
posted by gutVance is clearly also a sociopath, like many politicians. It's especially repugnant when someone pretends to be humble and moral but does a complete 180 on Trump when it becomes politically expedient.
Also not a ton of respect for someone that runs for Senate and then leaves after just 2 years for higher office. When you see someone rising that fast, and clearly orchestrated, they are not in it to serve the people but in it for themselves.
I agree with your assessment. I've been reading a lot about Nixon lately. He told a close advisor that he "lusted for power" - and that was after he was already president. I'm not sure any other personality type would be attracted to this kind of stuff (i.e., non-narcissist or sociopathic). Like the corporate c-suite, high-level politics so favors self serving people with no conscience. I think you have to vote for what you judge to be the less harmful narcissist/sociopath, and that's really it.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieLet's just say they changed DRAMATICALLY when he ran for Senate.
Yeah, it's political expediency rather than policy/principal for a person to go from "muh orange Hitler!" to "muh MAGA!" in such a period of time.
The only thing good that I can cite for Vance is him pushing for the paid sick leave part when our govt busted a rail worker strike in California.
Otherwise, I can't find much about him to be thrilled about. Maybe his age?
posted by ptown_trojans_1Right...
If you do a search history online for Project 2025, the Heritage Foundation and Kevin Roberts, I am pretty sure you are going to get a lot of hits before the debate.
The NYT did a long interview with him in January. It did go viral post debate, but it out there well before.
The Heritage Foundation is not some fringe hogwash. They are the republican think tank in DC. Kevin Roberts goes on Fox News and Fox Business a lot. He spoke at the Convention last week and even about Project 2025. Look it up.
To answer your last question, no. As in Trump has previously mentioned it in speech, look that one up.
He also will be employing people in his administration that had a hand in the Project or have views in favor of it. So while he may not like some parts of it, there will be officials from places like Heritage, that will try and implement it.
Thats a lot of words to hide the only important part.
You just agreed with me. I literally said it was out there but didn’t go viral and they weren’t talking about it constantly until the debate debacle. They needed a new “boogeyman”.
You could have come up with a shorter post that said “you’re right, it didn’t go viral until after the debate”.
Maybe a doctor could sum it up shorter?
I also agree that JDV is kind of “slimy” maybe the best way to describe it.
Not even Joe Biden or Hillary C change their beliefs/agendas faster than that guy.
I don’t even remember who he ran against 2 years ago but I know I voted for the dem over that guy.
Not the best pick for Trump at all, Ohio was nearly a lock for Trump so it’s a useless gain.
It's not only campaign season but the actual election year (because election season never really ends anymore), we are going to see a shit ton of fear mongering from here on out.
Oh well, gives us something to be bothered about and to bitch between ourselves.
posted by jmogNot the best pick for Trump at all, Ohio was nearly a lock for Trump so it’s a useless gain.
I still wish that he'd have picked Tulsi. I think she would be the best person to work on Trump about getting out of war and more importantly not to fund other countries' war.
posted by CenterBHSFanIt's really is funny because you've got no other criticism of what I've said outside of the fact that I haven't read the whole thing.
That wasn’t my criticism at all. 🤷🏽♂️
posted by geeblockThat wasn’t my criticism at all. 🤷🏽♂️
Oh, excuse me! Please repeat it so that I can understand better!
Dems and their violent rhetoric
https://x.com/kamalahq/status/1815437477462605891?s=46&t=xrxfs6mLIefacKYITrkV2A
posted by geeblockDems and their violent rhetoric
https://x.com/kamalahq/status/1815437477462605891?s=46&t=xrxfs6mLIefacKYITrkV2A
To act like that crap doesn't happen on both sides is disingenuous at best, and completely retarded at worst. You can decide which one suites you best.