2012 Wayne County Athletic League Football

• thePITman

  

  ^^ Thanks for the correction. I had the ppg for last year's attached to this year's. I fixed it and added both.
  
  I'm still up in the air on Northwestern and Hillsdale. I was thinking this morning I am leaning towards Northwestern over Hillsdale, but don't see either beating Norwayne. We'll see, though. There's a reason they play the game.
  
  I think a Triway/Norwayne match-up would be good for the county, just like last year's Norwayne/Orrville. However, I don't think it'll happen in week 11. Both teams would first need to make the playoffs and likely have to win a first tournament game. As for right now, our Titans are focused on a strong, disciplined CVCA team, and then Indian Valley, and then Manchester. A tough stretch for us.
• kurty66

  thePITman;1280036 wrote:My thoughts after week 5:
  http://www.pitmanstats.com/2012/09/25/week-5-results-and-what-i-learned/

  
  Pit - I was always enjoy reading your stuff. You do a great job, but I take issue with the with the whole "Norwayne runs up the score" thing. They've called off the dogs (cats) pretty early. I'm not sure they threw the ball in the second half last week. I guess the complaint was that Zimmerly got some runs while they up 50 or so in the second half. I don't think he got many carries in the first half so he probably needed the work. I also think they were experimenting with a 2 back offense which is new for them. They are a little less experienced and not as deep as last year. They've played with good sportsmanship (other than one infamous video last year) and usually shown class and humility in their actions. They could definitely be hanging quite a few more points on some teams if they wanted. It's a pretty good group of kids and coaches. I'm proud of the way they are representing our school/county.
• bobcat14

  thePITman;1280036 wrote:My thoughts after week 5:
  http://www.pitmanstats.com/2012/09/25/week-5-results-and-what-i-learned/

  PITman I enjoy reading your post and I also like your website, but your comment " running up the score seems to be pretty important, as well.", doesnt sit very well with me. They are not even running their Offense in the 3rd and 4th quarters, they run the JV O. They run the ball up the middle. It is not their fault when they have their 2nd and 3rd string RB in the game against Waynedal and Rittmans 1st string and they go up the middle for 20 or more yards. By the middle of the 3rd most of the OLine is either 3rd or even 4th stringers, and by the 4th the O and D is made up of Freshmen.
  
  Trust me if Norwayne was running up the score us "Fence Huggers" would let the Coach know. We have had it done to us many times in the pass and we didnt like it.
  
  The Coaches are not trying to run the score up, i.e..Norwayne had the backup QB in #7 during the Waynedale game, it was a busted play fumble #7 picked it up and could have very well ran 60 yards untouched for a TD, but you could hear all the coaches on the sidelines yelling "Go Down" and he went down with a 5 yard game. That showed class to me. I can promise you this, this team could care less about padding stats they want to win the WCAL and make a run for another State Championship!! There was a quote on this site awhile back saying they were trying to pad the stats for Zimmerly, that is Hog Wash, if anybody knows this young man he is a TRUE team player and could care less about his stats he wants to win!!!!! He has the stats to play at the next level he doesnt need anymore!!!!
• thePITman

  

  ^^ Point taken. Thank you for those two responses. I will totally agree that, outside of last year's video escapade, the Bobcats seem to be playing the game the right way in terms of sportsmanship and humility. For those fans that were hoping to top last year's scoring record, the next two weeks could be crucial. Are the Bobcats' 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers that much better than other teams' starters? Or as someone else said, is it that the subs are fresh, playing against tired, worn out, demoralized starters?
  
  After reevaluating that sentence, I have changed it up a little bit. I didn't mean to come down hard, more of a tongue-in-cheek thing. But my goal is not to ruffle any feathers.
• Paul_1

  

  WCALfootballfan;1279897 wrote:Smithville will be ready to play Norwayne when the time comes. They always are. Unfortunately for them I dont think Norwaynes staff will allow any of the BS we saw last year. My guess is, Norwayne will be all business for that one. That's probably not a good thing for Smithville.
  
  In response to mompov, it sounds like (from what has been said on here) you'll still be getting a steady dose of Norwayne's #1 RB in the second half when you play them. I think that's 2 weeks away. At least they wont still be throwing on

  Only BS last year was "mr. lockdown corner", the kid should have been booted for his classless stunt, he cost them the game. Norwayne will play all out for 4 quarters in this one. Hope the Smithies can keep it up a little, cause you aint getting JV and freshman no matter what the score......Bank it....
• Paul

  

  Paul_1;1280254 wrote:Only BS last year was "mr. lockdown corner", the kid should have been booted for his classless stunt, he cost them the game. Norwayne will play all out for 4 quarters in this one. Hope the Smithies can keep it up a little, cause you aint getting JV and freshman no matter what the score......Bank it....

  Amen brother Paul, and we won't roto-til the field.
• kurty66

  thePITman;1280197 wrote:^^ Point taken. Thank you for those two responses. I will totally agree that, outside of last year's video escapade, the Bobcats seem to be playing the game the right way in terms of sportsmanship and humility. For those fans that were hoping to top last year's scoring record, the next two weeks could be crucial. Are the Bobcats' 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers that much better than other teams' starters? Or as someone else said, is it that the subs are fresh, playing against tired, worn out, demoralized starters?
  
  After reevaluating that sentence, I have changed it up a little bit. I didn't mean to come down hard, more of a tongue-in-cheek thing. But my goal is not to ruffle any feathers.

  Reps for that, Pit. I think winning the conference and making another deep run is their goal - I don't think the points matter as much to them as it does to some fans. The fanastic 50 guy has Norwayne, Triway and Northwestern all making the playoffs right now in our region - and Hillsdale in D5. That would make for an exciting post-season
• WCALfootballfan

  This is great entertainment. The Norwayne fans get pretty fired up when you talk about running up the score. I've watched this pretty closely and I think Bobcat14 has a son on the team. He gets pretty fired up. If Norwayne was running Zimmerly up by 50+ in the 3rd then they were running up the score. If #7 is the backup QB and they were yelling at him to get down then that's probably because he is also an outstanding WR. I believe #7 starts at WR from when I watched the Rittman game. He is very good. They probably didnt want him to get hurt. I also heard they had the other WR in at QB in the 3rd and he ran for a long TD. Why didnt they tell him to get down? I dont think it's an accident that a certain players dad is the Principal at the school and the staff is "gettin him a little extra". That's what makes the world go round boys
• 855pride

  Paul;1280275 wrote:Amen brother Paul, and we won't roto-til the field.

  the only thing that was done to that field was an attempted checker board in the endzone for the seniors last home game. the coaches and fathers did that but it rained that night so it washed away. some people were looking to find a helicoper to land on the field to dry it but couldnt work that out in the last minute. what the cats dont like a little mud?
• O-Trap

  

  WCALfootballfan;1280313 wrote:This is great entertainment. The Norwayne fans get pretty fired up when you talk about running up the score. I've watched this pretty closely and I think Bobcat14 has a son on the team. He gets pretty fired up. If Norwayne was running Zimmerly up by 50+ in the 3rd then they were running up the score. If #7 is the backup QB and they were yelling at him to get down then that's probably because he is also an outstanding WR. I believe #7 starts at WR from when I watched the Rittman game. He is very good. They probably didnt want him to get hurt. I also heard they had the other WR in at QB in the 3rd and he ran for a long TD. Why didnt they tell him to get down? I dont think it's an accident that a certain players dad is the Principal at the school and the staff is "gettin him a little extra". That's what makes the world go round boys

  Telling a kid to go down is telling him to not try his hardest.
  
  Sorry, but I don't care if Norwayne beat's Smithville by 70, I wouldn't want to see them do that.
• oldsmithie

  I agree O-Trap! Let them play the game! If you get beat by 60 or 70 points, then get better and work harder! Dalton, Waynedale and Smithville have all been accused of this in the past! (not so much any more!!LOL) A coach should expect 100 percent out of his players!
• Paul_1

  

  Paul;1280275 wrote:Amen brother Paul, and we won't roto-til the field.

  and put a garden hose on it all day.......
• Bloody Toothbrush

  

  bobcat14;1280191 wrote:PITman I enjoy reading your post and I also like your website, but your comment " running up the score seems to be pretty important, as well.", doesnt sit very well with me. They are not even running their Offense in the 3rd and 4th quarters, they run the JV O. They run the ball up the middle. It is not their fault when they have their 2nd and 3rd string RB in the game against Waynedal and Rittmans 1st string and they go up the middle for 20 or more yards. By the middle of the 3rd most of the OLine is either 3rd or even 4th stringers, and by the 4th the O and D is made up of Freshmen.
  
  Trust me if Norwayne was running up the score us "Fence Huggers" would let the Coach know. We have had it done to us many times in the pass and we didnt like it.
  
  The Coaches are not trying to run the score up, i.e..Norwayne had the backup QB in #7 during the Waynedale game, it was a busted play fumble #7 picked it up and could have very well ran 60 yards untouched for a TD, but you could hear all the coaches on the sidelines yelling "Go Down" and he went down with a 5 yard game. That showed class to me. I can promise you this, this team could care less about padding stats they want to win the WCAL and make a run for another State Championship!! There was a quote on this site awhile back saying they were trying to pad the stats for Zimmerly, that is Hog Wash, if anybody knows this young man he is a TRUE team player and could care less about his stats he wants to win!!!!! He has the stats to play at the next level he doesnt need anymore!!!!

  I agree that Norwayne is not purposely running up the score......the rest is pure propaganda
  

  thePITman;1280197 wrote:^^ Point taken. Thank you for those two responses. I will totally agree that, outside of last year's video escapade, the Bobcats seem to be playing the game the right way in terms of sportsmanship and humility. For those fans that were hoping to top last year's scoring record, the next two weeks could be crucial. Are the Bobcats' 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers that much better than other teams' starters? Or as someone else said, is it that the subs are fresh, playing against tired, worn out, demoralized starters?
  
  After reevaluating that sentence, I have changed it up a little bit. I didn't mean to come down hard, more of a tongue-in-cheek thing. But my goal is not to ruffle any feathers.

  Pitman....I take issue with your use of the words "the", "and" & "football". Please stop using them to avoid rustling my feathers:laugh:
  
  write what you feel.......you will never be able to make everyone happy.
  

  Paul;1280275 wrote:Amen brother Paul, and we won't roto-til the field.

  IMO...your best post ever.
  

  kurty66;1280285 wrote: The fanastic 50 guy has Norwayne, Triway and Northwestern all making the playoffs right now in our region - and Hillsdale in D5. That would make for an exciting post-season

  ^^^that would be exciting
  

  WCALfootballfan;1280313 wrote:This is great entertainment. The Norwayne fans get pretty fired up when you talk about running up the score. I've watched this pretty closely and I think Bobcat14 has a son on the team. He gets pretty fired up. If Norwayne was running Zimmerly up by 50+ in the 3rd then they were running up the score. If #7 is the backup QB and they were yelling at him to get down then that's probably because he is also an outstanding WR. I believe #7 starts at WR from when I watched the Rittman game. He is very good. They probably didnt want him to get hurt. I also heard they had the other WR in at QB in the 3rd and he ran for a long TD. Why didnt they tell him to get down? I dont think it's an accident that a certain players dad is the Principal at the school and the staff is "gettin him a little extra". That's what makes the world go round boys

  a very logical and unbiased view.......I predict complaints will be filed against you soon.
  

  855pride;1280316 wrote:the only thing that was done to that field was an attempted checker board in the endzone for the seniors last home game. the coaches and fathers did that but it rained that night so it washed away. some people were looking to find a helicoper to land on the field to dry it but couldnt work that out in the last minute. what the cats dont like a little mud?

  WOW!!!......smithie fans tried to get a helicopter to dry the field and reduce their chances of victory!!!
  What happened at the last minute?....no, let me guess.....the smithie chopper had to deliver food to hungry children in the Sudan.
  
  now I've heard it all.

  O-Trap;1280320 wrote:Telling a kid to go down is telling him to not try his hardest.
  
  Sorry, but I don't care if Norwayne beat's Smithville by 70, I wouldn't want to see them do that.

  agreed.....whatever happens......happens.
  
  The only way I see an excuse for purposely not scoring with your 3rd & 4th stringers is if the next score will put you in triple digits thus attracting the kind of state and national media attention neither school would want.
• O-Trap

  

  Bloody Toothbrush;1280354 wrote:agreed.....whatever happens......happens.
  
  The only way I see an excuse for purposely not scoring with your 3rd & 4th stringers is if the next score will put you in triple digits thus attracting the kind of state and national media attention neither school would want.

  Nah. It'd put Wayne County on the MAP!
• bobcat14

  WCALfootballfan;1280313 wrote:This is great entertainment. The Norwayne fans get pretty fired up when you talk about running up the score. I've watched this pretty closely and I think Bobcat14 has a son on the team. He gets pretty fired up. If Norwayne was running Zimmerly up by 50+ in the 3rd then they were running up the score. If #7 is the backup QB and they were yelling at him to get down then that's probably because he is also an outstanding WR. I believe #7 starts at WR from when I watched the Rittman game. He is very good. They probably didnt want him to get hurt. I also heard they had the other WR in at QB in the 3rd and he ran for a long TD. Why didnt they tell him to get down? I dont think it's an accident that a certain players dad is the Principal at the school and the staff is "gettin him a little extra". That's what makes the world go round boys

  As I said before I do not have a son playing I am just a long time fan backing my team. Think what you want thats your right. I say what I feel is right, thats my right.
• no name

  Pitman, You made a comment earlier something to the effect does Norwayne have such talent in the 2nd, 3rd 4th team players. I think it has been obvious they have alot of talent but its time on here to give a little credit to the hard work they put in the last 2 summers. It kind of went unnoticed on this site but the DR had an article about the training regime Norwayne and West Holmes have went thru. Norwayne did it last year also.
  From middle school to high school over 125 kids putting in a mental and physical workout that we never would have done years past. Pushing your body and mind to another level. On the last day of training Norwayne athletes ran 40 400 yard dashes, That is 10 miles in 95 degree heat. Maybe the coaches over there are on to something. Imagine work hard/have success. Ask Maltrich at West Holmes if the program has helped them. Up to number 4 in the state Div3. Look at Waynedale wrestling, lots of time spent out of season working their tails off.
• Paul_1

  

  bobcat14;1280372 wrote:As I said before I do not have a son playing I am just a long time fan backing my team. Think what you want thats your right. I say what I feel is right, thats my right.

  I think your son is having a fantastic year. Go Cats
• Bloody Toothbrush

  

  Paul_1;1280389 wrote:I think your son is having a fantastic year. Go Cats

  You sir....are a troublemaker!:laugh:
• bobcat14

  Paul_1;1280389 wrote:I think your son is having a fantastic year. Go Cats

  Lol....and who would that be?? Maybe in another 13 years my daughter may have a good year but not on a football field, unless they let soccer on the football field!!!!
• kurty66

  WCALfootballfan;1280313 wrote:This is great entertainment. The Norwayne fans get pretty fired up when you talk about running up the score. I've watched this pretty closely and I think Bobcat14 has a son on the team. He gets pretty fired up. If Norwayne was running Zimmerly up by 50+ in the 3rd then they were running up the score. If #7 is the backup QB and they were yelling at him to get down then that's probably because he is also an outstanding WR. I believe #7 starts at WR from when I watched the Rittman game. He is very good. They probably didnt want him to get hurt. I also heard they had the other WR in at QB in the 3rd and he ran for a long TD. Why didnt they tell him to get down? I dont think it's an accident that a certain players dad is the Principal at the school and the staff is "gettin him a little extra". That's what makes the world go round boys

  
  This is great logic. You're saying they don't want #7 to get hurt because he is a very good receiver (and DB), but it's okay if #41 risks getting hurt even though he is very good running back and DE... and related to somebody? You refuted your own "argument."
• O-Trap

  

  bobcat14;1280441 wrote:Lol....and who would that be?? Maybe in another 13 years my daughter may have a good year but not on a football field, unless they let soccer on the football field!!!!

  You wouldn't let her play football?
• O-Trap

  

  855pride;1280316 wrote:the only thing that was done to that field was an attempted checker board in the endzone for the seniors last home game. the coaches and fathers did that but it rained that night so it washed away. some people were looking to find a helicoper to land on the field to dry it but couldnt work that out in the last minute. what the cats dont like a little mud?

  I do actually remember a bunch of fans wanting them to muddy up the field, and that the AD wouldn't go for it because of the risk of injury to the players.
  
  Wonder what the score would have been like had they ACTUALLY done something to the field.
• 99bobcatdb

  O-Trap;1280540 wrote:I do actually remember a bunch of fans wanting them to muddy up the field, and that the AD wouldn't go for it because of the risk of injury to the players.
  
  Wonder what the score would have been like had they ACTUALLY done something to the field.

  Maybe the fat smithville players would have just got stuck in the mud??? :laugh:
• O-Trap

  

  99bobcatdb;1280544 wrote:Maybe the fat smithville players would have just got stuck in the mud??? :laugh:

  Maybe. :rolleyes:
• Bloody Toothbrush

  

  kurty66;1280448 wrote:This is great logic. You're saying they don't want #7 to get hurt because he is a very good receiver (and DB), but it's okay if #41 risks getting hurt even though he is very good running back and DE... and related to somebody? You refuted your own "argument."

  I'm the one who said I thought it was logical......and I still do.
  
  Maybe we interpreted it differently.......Maybe it offended you somehow.
  
  Are you by chance a Bobcat fan?