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DIVISION 3 STATE CHAMPIONS YOUNGSTOWN CARDINAL MOONEY def. Columbus DeSales 35-7

  • Leonardo
    Friday morning at 11 AM

    I'll take Mooney, 28-17.
  • Dean Wormer
    Playing a team twice in a season always is tough. DeSales has a great team and a great fan base. It will be a pleasure to discuss football with people who have a clue. With that being said I'm going with Mooney in this one.
  • Mooney44Cards
    Both teams are better than they were in week 2.

    That being said....the week 2 game wasn't as close as the score shows.

    Mooney wins this one.

    Mooney 38
    DeSales 13
  • newarkcatholicfan
    I want DeSales but see Mooney winning, 21-17.
  • darbypitcher22
    I'm a little upset that this is the 11am game Friday; I caught the week 2 matchup and I'm sure DeSales is much improved from that game. Mooney was VERY impressive tonight though, as well as in the Week 2 matchup. DeSales has got to move the ball efficiently and avoid playing behind the sticks and in 3rd and long like was the case much of the first matchup. If they can do that and get some stops on defense, I think they'll stand a chance
  • Eating Edith
    It wasn't that long ago that a loaded Mooney team went in as big favorites vs Coldwater in the state finals, and lost.

    That being said, this game is Mooney's to lose unless DeSales can somehow mostly keep the Mooney running game from getting to the 3rd level or Mooney coughs up the ball a few times.
  • Run4DaHills
    No one will stop Mooney now that they've seperated themselves from the pretenders
  • Mooney44Cards
    Eating Edith wrote: It wasn't that long ago that a loaded Mooney team went in as big favorites vs Coldwater in the state finals, and lost.

    That being said, this game is Mooney's to lose unless DeSales can somehow mostly keep the Mooney running game from getting to the 3rd level or Mooney coughs up the ball a few times.
    Yeah but this time we have our QB. :D
  • SQ_Crazies
    No one ever wants to remember the ridiculous bad luck Mooney has had with injuries. I realize it's a team effort, but when it's week 15 it's tough to win without the best player in the state. Coldwater got lucky, they barely beat them and I promise you that with McCarthy, Mooney would have won that game by 2 scores at least. Coldwater wasn't anywhere near the best team they played that year--no offense to Coldwater either, they have a GREAT program. It's just funny how everyone wants to talk about Mooney losing that game but always leave out a huge detail.

    As for this game, I'm taking Mooney 35-13. Same score I predicted for the Steubenville game. They're just too good. Best team in the state, they'd win the D1 state championship. Actually, I think this year there are a few D3 teams that could compete with whoever wins D1--including DeSales.
  • SQ_Crazies
    And at least we don't have to do the public vs. private BS. I'm so tired of that argument--last time I checked it was your high schoolers against theirs. Everyone talks about Mooney like they have 25 year old NFL rookies playing for them every year.
  • Mooney44Cards
    SQ_Crazies wrote: And at least we don't have to do the public vs. private BS. I'm so tired of that argument--last time I checked it was your high schoolers against theirs. Everyone talks about Mooney like they have 25 year old NFL rookies playing for them every year.
    I know! We only have one of those.....the rest are all high school age kids.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Haha!

    I just get sick of hearing it. If you don't like it then beat them--it's a bunch of 15-18 year olds running around on the field. If they have any advantage it's preparation, tradition, attitude and drive.
  • Eating Edith
    SQ_Crazies wrote: And at least we don't have to do the public vs. private BS. I'm so tired of that argument--last time I checked it was your high schoolers against theirs. Everyone talks about Mooney like they have 25 year old NFL rookies playing for them every year.
    Private schools don't have as many kids that nearly never show up and drive up the enrollment, even without new add on students (even if they are rare for most schools) that's an advantage in terms of which division lower division teams are in. The bigger D3 private schools are D1 public schools in disguise.

    And with the Coldwater game, Mooney was still big favorites even with the QB out. That's not much of leaving out a detail, if Mooney was still big favorites.
  • SQ_Crazies
    No, they're D3 schools that are bottom feeder school districts.
  • newarkcatholicfan
    I agree that some of the private schools hav ea huge advantage over the teams that are suppose to be the same size.
  • Mooney44Cards
    Eating Edith wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: And at least we don't have to do the public vs. private BS. I'm so tired of that argument--last time I checked it was your high schoolers against theirs. Everyone talks about Mooney like they have 25 year old NFL rookies playing for them every year.
    Private schools don't have as many kids that nearly never show up and drive up the enrollment, even without in new add on students (even if they are rare for most schools) that's an advantage in terms of which division lower division teams are in. The bigger D3 private schools are D1 public schools in disguise.

    And with the Coldwater game, Mooney was still big favorites even with the QB out. That's not leaving out a detail, if Mooney was still big favorites.
    If the kids at your school that nearly never show up and drive up the enrollment would like to pay a few grand to go to school, Mooney or some other private school will be glad to have them. Even if Mooney added another 80 kids (you can't tell me there'd even be that many in all but the very largest schools), they'd still be well within the D3 cutoff.
  • xnds1fan
    I don't follow either of these schools but from what I'm gathering, they both run the ball 95% of the time.
  • newarkcatholicfan
    Division Enrollment Schools
    I 518 and more 120
    II 348 to 517 118
    III 252 to 347 120
    IV 177 to 251 119
    V 125 to 176 120
    VI 124 and less 121
    Total Schools 718
    MOONEY 252
  • believer
    I dunno....do you suppose a Catholic school will win this one?
  • mlisi39
    No Big Red fans...

    No recruiting BS...

    No public vs. private garbage...

    Does this mean someone might actually talk about the game?

    This one goes out to the DeSales folks...Is the same QB starting that started the game in week 2?
  • CardsFlyinHigh
    Good Luck Mooney, represent the Valley well.
  • believer
    mlisi39 wrote:No recruiting BS...

    No public vs. private garbage...
    Garbage perhaps but truth nonetheless.
  • ZalKath
    I don't believe anyone i n the playoffs regardless of division can stop Mooney...'nuff said...
  • Cmhs74
    Congratulations to both teams for making it to the finals. Have a good week of practice and stay injury free. For the seniors at Mooney, this is your final game. How do you want it to be remembered? Ring the bell one more time. GO CARDS
  • 77Legend
    Yes^^^