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Would MJ win 6 rings in todays NBA?

  • hoops23
    I'd say no. I still think he'd win 3 or 4 though.

    More competition on the wings, the NBA is a much deeper league.
    Discuss.
  • Sage
    Jordan was really fucking good. Like, really good. Depends what team he played on, etc.

    Could he? Certainly. Would he? I'd bet against it, but I fucking hate Jordan.
  • Sage
    What I'd be almost certainly willing to bet though is that he's not remembered in the way that he is (imagine TMZ with his gambling and womanizing) and he wouldn't be some mogul icon dude.
  • hoops23
    Yea, he was really fucking good.

    Sometimes when you see an irrelevant stat pertaining to Jordan, it makes you say "wow"..

    He's definitely the GOAT.

    I always remember hating the fuck out of MJ, even though I was always a die hard Tar Heel fan, but he KILLED the Cavs so many times.
  • hoops23
    Sage wrote: What I'd be almost certainly willing to bet though is that he's not remembered in the way that he is (imagine TMZ with his gambling and womanizing) and he wouldn't be some mogul icon dude.
    haha.

    TMZ would have been all over MJ.

    In fact, instead of retiring to Minor League baseball, he probably crashes and burns... hard.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Good spin off thread.

    I agree that he wouldn't. Like Sage said, it depends on a lot of other things too. IMO, one of the 90's Bulls rosters transplanted into the league today would definitely be one of the best teams in the league--but I'm not sure they'd be the best. They'd get absolutely pounded in the paint by Cleveland, LA, Orlando and probably (sadly) even the Celtics. Interesting to think about though.

    Jordan certainly would have trouble with the media. IMO, that's why he's been generally quiet since his retirement--he doesn't want to answer those questions, doesn't want the bad publicity.
  • Glory Days
    Jordan would adapt his game and find a way to win. plus if you transplant the 72-10 team to today, they would be at the top of the league no doubt.
  • 2quik4u
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Good spin off thread.

    I agree that he wouldn't. Like Sage said, it depends on a lot of other things too. IMO, one of the 90's Bulls rosters transplanted into the league today would definitely be one of the best teams in the league--but I'm not sure they'd be the best. They'd get absolutely pounded in the paint by Cleveland, LA, Orlando and probably (sadly) even the Celtics. Interesting to think about though.

    Jordan certainly would have trouble with the media. IMO, that's why he's been generally quiet since his retirement--he doesn't want to answer those questions, doesn't want the bad publicity.
    lol the best big man era was in the 90's and they still won 6 championships and that was also when you actually had to pretty much throw someone before you got a foul called on you unlike today where someone drive's and gets touched its a automatic foul.
  • jpake1
    I would still go with the Bulls to fill up their fingers. They had some pretty good TEAMS. They played against some pretty good bigs each year and took care of them. I don't think they would have had as much regular season success, but I think they'd pull it out.
  • WebFire
    You guys act like Jordan played in the 60s.
  • sleeper
    Jordan would ride the bench on the Cavs, and you can take that to the bank.

    And to answer the question, he'd win as many rings as Lebron wins.
  • Little Danny
    WebFire wrote: You guys act like Jordan played in the 60s.
    Exactly. Everytime one of these posts come up people act like Jordan played against the Mikan led Lakers in the days where everyone in the league were a bunch of white guys with crew cuts and high white socks. Young guys--- I hate to break it to you but the guys who played in the 80's and 90's were freakish athletes too. In fact, the biggest difference was they could play defense and shoot the ball a little as well.

    MJ was a great all around player. In addition to his tremendous talent was his desire to win. Nobody wanted to win like Michael. if MJ needed to make some adjustments to play with the guys today (which I doubt) he would have found a way.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Little Danny wrote:
    WebFire wrote: You guys act like Jordan played in the 60s.
    Exactly. Everytime one of these posts come up people act like Jordan played against the Mikan led Lakers in the days where everyone in the league were a bunch of white guys with crew cuts and high white socks. Young guys--- I hate to break it to you but the guys who played in the 80's and 90's were freakish athletes too. In fact, the biggest difference was they could play defense and shoot the ball a little as well.

    MJ was a great all around player. In addition to his tremendous talent was his desire to win. Nobody wanted to win like Michael. if MJ needed to make some adjustments to play with the guys today (which I doubt) he would have found a way.
    Well you don't watch the NBA anymore.

    And there were some great athletes in the 90's, but not like there is right now. Show me someone similar to LeBron or Dwight Howard.

    I mean, this is really a stupid argument every time for obvious reasons but I'm just amazed at some of the things that are said during this debate every time.
  • thedynasty1998
    Yes, he wins 6 if not more. The NBA is still very top heavy, meaning there are usually only a few teams with legit chances to win the championship, and those are the teams that usually have one of the superstars. The Lakers win because of Kobe, and Cavs win because of Lebron, the Nuggets win because of Carmelo etc...

    Jordan was and will always be the best postseason player ever and he would get it done agains today's NBA as well.
  • mallymal614
    Do people forget the talent the NBA had in the 90s?


    Orlando Magic: Shaquille O'Neal, Penny Hardaway, Horrance Grant,
    Houston Rockets: Hakeem Olajuwon , Clyde Drexler, Sam Cassell
    San Antonio Spurs: David Robinson, Sean Elliot
    New York Knicks: Patrick Ewing, John Starks, Charles Oakley
    Phoneix Suns: Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Dan Marjle
    Indiana Pacers: Reggie Miller, Mark Jackson, Jalen Rose
    Miami Heat: Tim Hardaway, Alonzo Mourning,
    LA Lakers: Shaquille O'Neal, Kobe, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Excel
    Charlotte Hornets: Alonzo Mourning, Larry Johnson,
    Detroit Pistons: Isiah Thomas, Grant Hill, Joe Dumars
    Utah Jazz: Karl Malone, John Stockton
    Atlanta Hawks: Dikembe Mutombo, Steve Smith, Mookie Blaylock
    Seattle Supersonics: Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton
    Portland Blazers: Clyde Drexler, Terry Porter

    These are just players and teams I can think of from the top of my head. That may be only half of the talent the 90s had. The quality of basketball was much better then, than it is now in my opinion. I also don't know if any team now or the past 10 years that could have knocked off Jordan's bulls. I think Jordan and the Bulls beats all of the Spurs Championship teams, Boston, and Miami. The only team I say may possibly give them fits is the Lakers 2001 team. Today you have some good top heavy teams, but overall I don't think it's even close to when Jordan was playing.
  • 2quik4u
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    Little Danny wrote:
    WebFire wrote: You guys act like Jordan played in the 60s.
    Exactly. Everytime one of these posts come up people act like Jordan played against the Mikan led Lakers in the days where everyone in the league were a bunch of white guys with crew cuts and high white socks. Young guys--- I hate to break it to you but the guys who played in the 80's and 90's were freakish athletes too. In fact, the biggest difference was they could play defense and shoot the ball a little as well.

    MJ was a great all around player. In addition to his tremendous talent was his desire to win. Nobody wanted to win like Michael. if MJ needed to make some adjustments to play with the guys today (which I doubt) he would have found a way.
    Well you don't watch the NBA anymore.

    And there were some great athletes in the 90's, but not like there is right now. Show me someone similar to LeBron or Dwight Howard.

    I mean, this is really a stupid argument every time for obvious reasons but I'm just amazed at some of the things that are said during this debate every time.
    lol every decade has their freak athletes you act like that is something new. Show me someone like Hakeem. Btw the Howard would have only been good in the 90's, he wouldn't be a star, he barely has a offensive game and thats going against barely any good centers, if u look at the 90's centers he would have got wrecked every game. The big men now dont even come close to the big men in the 90's.
  • mallymal614
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Show me someone similar to LeBron or Dwight Howard.
    Dwight is not even half the player Shaq was. Shaq came into the league and Dominated and just his third seasons took Orlando to the finals averaging ridiculous numbers.

    Player similar to Lebron? Umm I think there was someone name MJ :)
  • mallymal614
    mallymal614 wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Show me someone similar to LeBron or Dwight Howard.
    Dwight is not even half the player Shaq was. Shaq came into the league and Dominated and just his third seasons took Orlando to the finals averaging ridiculous numbers.

    Player similar to Lebron? Umm I think there was someone name MJ :)
    In fact, is Dwight even as good as Hakeem, Patrick, David, or Zo?
  • SQ_Crazies
    Bahahahahaha?! Shaq??? Shaq used to be a good athlete but he was never in his life anywhere near at athletic as Dwight Howard. It wasn't about who was the better player--keep up with the conversation junior..
  • dat dude
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Bahahahahaha?! Shaq??? Shaq used to be a good athlete but he was never in his life anywhere near at athletic as Dwight Howard. It wasn't about who was the better player--keep up with the conversation junior..
    When does athlete = great basketball player? Look up Shaq's numbers compared to Howard. No comparison at all.

    Edit: Didn't realize we are only talking athleticism. That is Howard, no question.
  • mallymal614
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Bahahahahaha?! Shaq??? Shaq used to be a good athlete but he was never in his life anywhere near at athletic as Dwight Howard. It wasn't about who was the better player--keep up with the conversation junior..
    I guess people forgot what a freak of nature Shaq was. He didn't really become a power guy until he went to LA. But with the Magic, he use to put on shows. I don't even recall Dwight leading a fast break like a point guard as Shaq did. Shaq may have been stronger and jumped as high (remember we are talking about young Shaq). Let me refresh yall memories.

  • SQ_Crazies
    dat dude wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Bahahahahaha?! Shaq??? Shaq used to be a good athlete but he was never in his life anywhere near at athletic as Dwight Howard. It wasn't about who was the better player--keep up with the conversation junior..
    When does athlete = great basketball player? Look up Shaq's numbers compared to Howard. No comparison at all.
    Where did I say great athlete=great basketball player? Nowhere, jackass.

    Even though in this case it does.

    And I'm sorry, what do you want me to do? Compare career numbers? LMAO! Check out another thread around here and you'll see that I rank Shaq ahead of Howard anyways--who doesn't? I simply said he was never anywhere near the athlete that Howard is.
  • jpake1
    What is being argued here-- better athletes or better players?
  • SQ_Crazies
    mallymal614 wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Bahahahahaha?! Shaq??? Shaq used to be a good athlete but he was never in his life anywhere near at athletic as Dwight Howard. It wasn't about who was the better player--keep up with the conversation junior..
    I guess people forgot what a freak of nature Shaq was. He didn't really become a power guy until he went to LA. But with the Magic, he use to put on shows. I don't even recall Dwight leading a fast break like a point guard as Shaq did. Shaq may have been stronger and jumped as high (remember we are talking about young Shaq). Let me refresh yall memories.

    You don't have to refresh my memory.

    I'm extremely familiar with the young, freak Shaq. And I'll stand by saying Howard is a better athlete all day long. Shaq never in his life jumped higher than Dwight Howard can unless he used a trampoline.

    Oh yeah, this too:



    ^Dwight Howard leading the fast break like a PG.
  • SQ_Crazies
    jpake1 wrote: What is being argued here-- better athletes or better players?
    Better athlete, you saw my list on the other thread. There is no way in hell that I would ever try to argue that Dwight Howard is a better player than Shaq ever was--because I don't believe that. At least not right now.