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2016-17 NBA Thread

  • friendfromlowry
    sleeper;1840175 wrote:Dirk, greatest white player ever?
    Larry Bird?
  • Commander of Awesome
    friendfromlowry;1840182 wrote:Larry Bird?
    Sleeper doesn't know who that is.
  • sleeper
    Larry Bird? Don't see his name on any top 25 scoring list.
  • friendfromlowry
    Gonna pass on this debate. Everyone else have fun.
  • Ironman92
    sleeper;1840175 wrote:Dirk, greatest white player ever?
    Larry put up LeBron-ish numbers back in the days of shit players.

    I'd go:

    Bird
    Dirk
    Grant Hill
    Kevin McHale
    John Stockton
  • Ironman92
    Russ goes 58/9 but lose to Portland
  • Laley23
    Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.

    He is the best white player ever.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Ironman92;1840192 wrote:Larry put up LeBron-ish numbers back in the days of shit players.

    I'd go:

    Bird
    Dirk
    Grant Hill
    Kevin McHale
    John Stockton
    I got it, and lol'd
  • Ironman92
    Commander of Awesome;1840197 wrote:I got it, and lol'd
    Damn ankle injuries though. He was one of my favorites...and could play the defense.
  • Ironman92
    Laley23;1840195 wrote:Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.

    He is the best white player ever.
    He had 10 full seasons but insane back issues

    Had a 30/10/6 season

    Led NBA 4 straight years in VORP
  • SportsAndLady
    Ironman92;1840193 wrote:Russ goes 58/9 but lose to Portland
    That's Russ for ya :)
  • Laley23
    Yeah, was still amazing...but only 6 truly healthy years, and completely messed up at the end.
  • like_that
    Dirk is pretty amazing. He gets overshadowed by the other stars, but he deserves all the praise he gets. When he elevated his game to lead the mavs to a title that solidified him as a top 50 player of all time.
  • Crimson streak
    like_that;1840213 wrote:Dirk is pretty amazing. He gets overshadowed by the other stars, but he deserves all the praise he gets. When he elevated his game to lead the mavs to a title that solidified him as a top 50 player of all time.
    Dirk is truly one of the greatest players no one talks about. I mean the guy even changed the league with his one leg jumper. I've always been a huge fan of dirk. It will suck to see him go soon


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  • Azubuike24
    I remember watching him in the 1998 Nike Hoops Summit when he was relatively unknown. It was on the old Sports Channel Ohio and you could just tell there was something really unique in his game. Heck of a career.
  • sleeper
    friendfromlowry;1840191 wrote:Gonna pass on this debate. Everyone else have fun.
    I'd pass too when the stats don't line up with my fantasy world.

    I guess we should only use nostalgia and feelz to rate players.
  • sleeper
    Laley23;1840195 wrote:Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.

    He is the best white player ever.
    Derrick Rose had a pretty good season. GOAT PG?

    I don't even have Larry Bird on my top 20 list. Dirk is firmly a top 10 all time player.

    He is the best white player ever in reality.
  • Azubuike24
    Larry Bird kind of has the Sandy Koufax treatment. If you take his top 5-6 seasons and look at the numbers, they are up there with anyone, ever. There was a 5-year stretch where he was averaging like 27/10/7 and was clearly a top 3 player in the NBA.

    All-time, it's not fair to just project those numbers over 15 years instead of the 7-8 he stayed injury free. At some point, you have to credit a guy who has the longevity. It's not easy to have a 20 year career.
  • Azubuike24
    How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
  • Crimson streak
    Azubuike24;1840236 wrote:How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
    That's a tough one. Personally I would give the slight edge to dirk.


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  • SportsAndLady
    Azubuike24;1840236 wrote:How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
    Duncan level 1 star. Dirk level 2.
  • vball10set
    Laley23;1840195 wrote:Bird played like 7 seasons and then had major back issues.

    He is the best white player ever.
    This
    sleeper;1840221 wrote:
    I don't even have Larry Bird on my top 20 list. Dirk is firmly a top 10 all time player.

    He is the best white player ever in reality.
    lol, and no
  • Ironman92
    SportsAndLady;1840246 wrote:Duncan level 1 star. Dirk level 2.
    Or maybe 1 and 1A
  • sleeper
    Azubuike24;1840236 wrote:How do you compare Dirk to Tim Duncan?
    I'd take Duncan over Dirk but its close. Duncan could have been a strong beneficiary of having a great all time coach like Popovich whereas Dirk has had complete dogshit coaches and teammates(barring a few years).
  • sleeper
    vball10set;1840248 wrote:This



    lol, and no
    Okay care to use facts, evidence, logic or reason in justifying your opinion? Or is this one of those "I'm right and I don't have to prove anything" type deals that people on here love.

    I wouldn't want to debate me either. You can't win with that shit.