NBA Champion - Cleveland Cavaliers 2016-2017 Season Thread

• BR1986FB

  like_that;1855209 wrote:Barkley last night said if the cavs win he will surpass Kobe. The crew asked him where is lobe ranked and he has Kobe at 6th, so Lebron is 6th right now....

  Barkley's a funny guy.
  
  Some interesting things to chew on....especially the level of competition Jordan had versus Lebron.
  
  http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/michael-jordan-lebron-james-nba-finals-playoffs-perfect-record-greatest-all-time-052617
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1855213 wrote:I've heard a lot of "Kobe vs lebron" lately in the media. Is that for real? Lebron passed Kobe years ago when he won a title being "the man".

  Same. The media sure loves to change their narrative. First it was Mj VS Lebron and now all of a sudden they are bringing up Kobe? Just like the media has conviently changed the narrative on the East. How many times did we see that the raptors/wizards/celtics all had a chance to steal a series from the Cavs? The cavs go 16-1 (the one loss being a ridiculous collapse that still took a buzzer beater) and all of a sudden the east is trash and everyone knew the cavs would be in the finals. Bullshit, not what I heard from a lot of pundits back in February, March, and before game 3 of the raptors series.
  
  I am not a certified Kobe hater, I think he is great and loved his kill them all attitude, but I think Lebron has surpassed him. If you gave Lebron early in his career somebody as dominant as shaq, then Lebron would already be looking for his 6th ring this season.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  ernest_t_bass;1852488 wrote:Cavs sweep either team. You heard it here first. They could also win in 5, or maybe 6, but they sweep. Calling it now.

  Called it.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  like_that;1855227 wrote:Same. The media sure loves to change their narrative. First it was Mj VS Lebron and now all of a sudden they are bringing up Kobe? Just like the media has conviently changed the narrative on the East. How many times did we see that the raptors/wizards/celtics all had a chance to steal a series from the Cavs? The cavs go 16-1 (the one loss being a ridiculous collapse that still took a buzzer beater) and all of a sudden the east is trash and everyone knew the cavs would be in the finals. Bullshit, not what I heard from a lot of pundits back in February, March, and before game 3 of the raptors series.
  
  I am not a certified Kobe hater, I think he is great and loved his kill them all attitude, but I think Lebron has surpassed him. If you gave Lebron early in his career somebody as dominant as shaq, then Lebron would already be looking for his 6th ring this season.

  Sounds like the CAVS are the GOP and the West is the left... /QO
• BR1986FB

  ernest_t_bass;1855233 wrote:Called it.

  LOL
  
  You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ernest_t_bass again.
• sleeper

  

  BR1986FB;1855204 wrote:If the Cavs beat the Warriors, Lebron should be considered the GOAT. The Warriors are being touted as the GOAT "team" so, if the Cavs beat them, LBJ should be the All-Time GOAT.
  
  You mention LBJ passing Jordan for the all-time scoring lead. A lot of Jordan supporters will cry "but Lebron has played in so many more games than Jordan." But, if you look deeper, LBJ surpasses MJ in the efficiency category. Yes, Lebron has played in more games but it took him 118 less shots than Jordan to score MORE points.

  People said this last year when the Cavs beat the all-time wins team with the first unanimous MVP coming down from 3-1 with only 1 all-start(Lebron). If he wins this year, and I think they have a good chance, people will make up additional excuses and set the bar even higher.
  
  Lebron is the best to ever play the game. Reality, it always wins.
• sleeper

  

  ernest_t_bass;1855233 wrote:Called it.

  I know you are attempting to troll but you failed hard. I predicted sweeps in all series and was wrong on this one. Grow up.
• BR1986FB

  sleeper;1855239 wrote: Lebron is the best to ever play the game. Reality, it always wins.

  I wasn't always of this belief, but I've come around. His numbers, not just the scoring, show me. Plus, Jordan did not face the level of competition in the Finals that Lebron has.
  
  I know the fact that they are in the Finals again can be another "ho hum" moment for Cavs fans but we REALLY need to enjoy these moments because when LBJ is gone, we probably aren't seeing another Cavs championship in our lifetimes. He's that special of a player.
• sleeper

  

  BTW, I'm taking the Cavs in 6 against the Warriors.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  sleeper;1855240 wrote:I know you are attempting to troll but you failed hard. I predicted sweeps in all series and was wrong on this one. Grow up.

  
• Benny The Jet

  

  Can't take credit for it...but don't know how to embed tweets.
  "This is the Big 3 that's going to beat Lebron?"
  
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Link it?
• Benny The Jet

  

  https://twitter.com/olinepls/status/867949411858472960
• O-Trap

  

  sleeper;1855239 wrote:Lebron is the best to ever play the game. Reality, it always wins.

  What has been really interesting has been the last couple days of podcasts.
  
  Bomani Jones admitted that the only reason LeBron James will never pass Michael Jordan was because he's "just not Michael Jordan." He even broke down the elements of their game and pointed out that James can be argued to be better than Jordan at almost every aspect of the game.
  
  Stephen A. Smith even said that if he had to pick on player in history for a whole 82-game season, he'd pick LeBron. If he had to pick someone for the final two minutes of a close game, he'd pick Jordan, but that LeBron was the most talented all-around basketball player in NBA history.
  
  I found these both really odd, as these two guys had been pretty ardently backing Jordan in the conversation over the last several years. Granted, I suppose they have a different idea of what "best player ever" means, so they still might say Jordan was the "best," but it's funny that they came this close to saying something to the contrary.
• superman

  BR1986FB;1855220 wrote:I'm pretty old school but I can't put Wilt above Lebron. In Wilt's time, his competition (size-wise) was comparable to putting Andre the Giant in the ring with a bunch of midget wrestlers. He was a (giant) man among boys.

  
• superman

  Since 2008 the Western team that beat the Spurs lost the next round.
• BR1986FB

  Since 2011, Stephen A Smith has been wrong on every prediction of who would win the Finals. He has the Warriors in 7 this year.
• superman

  LeBron has never won a championship in a year that Alabama didn't win the CFB championship.
• like_that

  

  And since 2004 (I believe) the team that has knocked out the Spurs has gone on to lose the next round. Which crazy streak will end?!?!?!??!?!
• superman

  like_that;1855505 wrote:And since 2004 (I believe) the team that has knocked out the Spurs has gone on to lose the next round. Which crazy streak will end?!?!?!??!?!

  Since 2008. Look 3 posts above yours.
• Laley23

  

  This series needs to start.
• BR1986FB

  Laley23;1855511 wrote:This series needs to start.

  I'm actually fine with a little down time before it starts.
• like_that

  

  superman;1855508 wrote:Since 2008. Look 3 posts above yours.

  Too far :laugh:.
• BR1986FB

  5 reasons to root for the Cavs (FoxSports).....
  
  http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery/cleveland-cavaliers-nba-finals-championship-053017
• Ironman92

  

  Just fucking win