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2015 NFL Regular Season Chatter

  • WebFire
    wildcats20;1729815 wrote:They aren't kicking from the 15. The snap comes from the 15.
    Correct. Think that was obvious enough.
  • WebFire
    HitsRus;1729883 wrote:I really don't mind the changes, but I wish they'd quit f***** with game every year. Moreover, if they are going to make major rule changes they should put it out there a year in advance so teams can make personnel changes....as it is some teams are going to be advantaged and others disadvantgaged without the opportunity to make changes via free agency or the draft.
    Also, I think if you are going to make PAT's harder, then you should make going for two harder also, otherwise you are shifting the balance between them....I guess if you want more people going for 2, the changes are good, but you are changing the very core of the gamne.
    They are making the change for one season and then the (owners I think) will vote to keep or reject the rule permanently.
  • thavoice
    Automatik;1729884 wrote:What personnel changes would be made due to moving PATs back?
    A ball deflator for the kicking balls.
  • wildcats20
    WebFire;1729885 wrote:Correct. Think that was obvious enough.
    Kick from the 15 vs snap from the 15.

    Not similar at all. Thanks though.
  • WebFire
    wildcats20;1729889 wrote:Kick from the 15 vs snap from the 15.

    Not similar at all. Thanks though.
    Yeah, I get that. Everyone knew what it meant. Thanks though.
  • HitsRus
    They are making the change for one season and then the (owners I think) will vote to keep or reject the rule permanently.
    Technically, yes,.... but league sources expect this to be a permanent change.
    What personnel changes would be made due to moving PATs back?
    I was speaking in general for major rules changes....for instance the change a few years ago when kickoffs were moved forward resulting in a preponderance of balls kicked into the endzone resulting in touchbacks. Teams that invested in kickers with big booming legs were rewarded...teams that had allocated money towards kick return specialists were hurt. In the world of salary caps, changing rules affect salary allocations. one thing that I had heard related to this, is that with the risk/reward ratio changing in PATs vs. 2 point conversions, teams will devote more time to two point conversions...and more money to "2 point specialists" (whatever that may be).

    You will also not be able to fake an extra point and go for 2....unless you want to take a 13 yard penalty.
  • jmog
    HitsRus;1729902 wrote:Technically, yes,.... but league sources expect this to be a permanent change.



    I was speaking in general for major rules changes....for instance the change a few years ago when kickoffs were moved forward resulting in a preponderance of balls kicked into the endzone resulting in touchbacks. Teams that invested in kickers with big booming legs were rewarded...teams that had allocated money towards kick return specialists were hurt. In the world of salary caps, changing rules affect salary allocations. one thing that I had heard related to this, is that with the risk/reward ratio changing in PATs vs. 2 point conversions, teams will devote more time to two point conversions...and more money to "2 point specialists" (whatever that may be).

    You will also not be able to fake an extra point and go for 2....unless you want to take a 13 yard penalty.
    2-point specialists make me think of Tebow and T. Pryor type QBs. Those that can't throw worth a crap but put them less than 5 yards from the end zone and they can either run it in or dump it to a WR/TE/RB that is less than 5 yards from them.
  • thavoice
    HitsRus;1729902 wrote:Technically, yes,.... but league sources expect this to be a permanent change.



    I was speaking in general for major rules changes....for instance the change a few years ago when kickoffs were moved forward resulting in a preponderance of balls kicked into the endzone resulting in touchbacks. Teams that invested in kickers with big booming legs were rewarded...teams that had allocated money towards kick return specialists were hurt. In the world of salary caps, changing rules affect salary allocations. one thing that I had heard related to this, is that with the risk/reward ratio changing in PATs vs. 2 point conversions, teams will devote more time to two point conversions...and more money to "2 point specialists" (whatever that may be).

    You will also not be able to fake an extra point and go for 2....unless you want to take a 13 yard penalty.
    I remember one fake EP for a two point conversion. Pretty sure it was the first 2 pt convo in the NFL by the Browns.
    Teams that go for two line up and do so traditionally.
    As for a team putting $$ into a 2 point specialist...I just dont see it. Maybe a team will use a backup QB, like above in Tebow or Pryor, or whatever but I dont see a huge difference.

    I get what you are saying and the only point I will give you is a team who spent $$$ on a return specialist because the touchbacks did hurt them.
  • Automatik
    #1
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12913780/uni-watch-power-rankings-nfl-best-worst-uniforms
  • thavoice
    Alternate uniforms.

    Yeah. Worst of all time.
  • Mulva
    That might be the worst list I've ever seen on any topic ever.
  • Automatik
    thavoice;1730167 wrote:Alternate uniforms.

    Yeah. Worst of all time.
    Yes, they are horrific.

    I'm all about the classic look though. I've always been a fan of the Raiders unis.
  • thavoice
    Automatik;1730191 wrote:Yes, they are horrific.

    I'm all about the classic look though. I've always been a fan of the Raiders unis.
    As stupid as it sounds, the stadium usually had more electricity when they came out in those. Been there 2-3 times when they wore them. It may be because they usually only wear those in some of the bigger prime time games but the difference was noticeable.
  • WebFire
    Mulva;1730179 wrote:That might be the worst list I've ever seen on any topic ever.
    I don't disagree with much in the top 15. I would Bills a lot lower, and probably move New England to 15. But other than that, it's not far off.
  • thavoice
    Mulva;1730179 wrote:That might be the worst list I've ever seen on any topic ever.
    Talk about bad 'lists'. I see wher the NFL network ranks the top 100 NFL players.
    Per season.

    Now..if it is per decade.....yeah, but top 100 per SEASON? Seems a bit....like overkill and a time filler.
  • Lovejoy1984
    thavoice;1730451 wrote:Talk about bad 'lists'. I see wher the NFL network ranks the top 100 NFL players.
    Per season.

    Now..if it is per decade.....yeah, but top 100 per SEASON? Seems a bit....like overkill and a time filler.
    You're a network covering nothing but Pro Football, definitely need to fill time.
  • DeyDurkie5
    thavoice;1730451 wrote:Talk about bad 'lists'. I see wher the NFL network ranks the top 100 NFL players.
    Per season.

    Now..if it is per decade.....yeah, but top 100 per SEASON? Seems a bit....like overkill and a time filler.
    Lol it's obviously a time killer.
  • wildcats20
    ACL bros

  • friendfromlowry
    Texans get the nod for Hard Knocks
  • jmog
    friendfromlowry;1731141 wrote:Texans get the nod for Hard Knocks
    Thank God its not the Browns.
  • DeyDurkie5
    AP comes off like a little bitch. Your fault you signed the contract dumbass
  • Lovejoy1984
    Yup.

    Bitching to the media about the non-guaranteed contracts. Maybe he should call up his union rep, and bitch him ouy, since they negotiated this. deal. Same with all those guys who bitch about the Commissioner having final say in everything.
  • friendfromlowry
    The Vikings should run him into the ground this year.
  • BR1986FB
    Alrighty then.....

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25205413/broncos-enforce-fart-tax-in-meetings-von-miller-is-fined-most-frequently
  • thavoice
    Good stuff.
    We had a guy get smoked for busting ass in formation too many times!