Browns End of 2014 Season Thread (Iggy-free)

• Brookside

  First post. if the Browns line is healthy it doesn't matter who is QB. Hoyer should have started.
• ts1227

  

  On the bright side, this is the first time in 6 weeks they didn't miss a FG
• salto

  

  lol
• Ironman92

  

  ts1227;1686072 wrote:On the bright side, this is the first time in 6 weeks they didn't miss a FG

  Kind of a crazy and hard to believe stat
• Dr. KnOiTaLL

  

  What an embarrassing loss. Completely owned in every facet of the game.
• like_that

  

  Dr. KnOiTaLL;1686077 wrote:What an embarrassing loss. Completely owned in every facet of the game.

  If you told me dalton was going to give that stat line before the game, I would have predicted a win. Just pathetic and glad I turned the tv off after the half.
• Dr. KnOiTaLL

  

  like_that;1686078 wrote:If you told me dalton was going to give that stat line before the game, I would have predicted a win. Just pathetic and glad I turned the tv off after the half.

  Yeah, we really need to get healthy on the defensive side of the ball. We've snuck by a few times over the last month and a half by getting the other team to turn the ball over, but when they commit to the run, our defense is a sieve. Offense had NOTHING going for them. Bengals dared us to pass by committing their focus to the run, and we couldn't do it. Offensive line couldn't block one of the least productive defensive lines in the league. Just pathetic.
• vball10set

  My god, that was awful.
• BR1986FB

  Well, that was a coat hanger abortion if I've ever saw one. Defense looked like shit, Manziel looked like shit, O-Line looked like shit. These last two weeks probably won't be fun to watch.
• Azubuike24

  

  John Lynch did make a decent point that the Browns playmakers need to adapt to playing with a scramble first, throw on the move QB.
  
  The Bengals did well in coverage, but Manziel did have a few plays where he had some scramble room and that's exactly where he's got potential to make big plays. He certainly doesn't look like he can drop back and make great throws from inside a pocket.
• Devils Advocate

  

  In the absence of a running game, no one wins.
  
  JFF, or anyone else would have lost this game.
• Ironman92

  

  
  
  What I watched he actually made a couple good decisions but either the receiver didn't hold on (Hawkins) or a penalty negated it. He had plenty of dumb rookie stuff.
  
  He's saying the right things but his past behavior has put a big ol target on his back...everyone's going to relish the chance to show him up. I probably only watched a quarter of the game but that was as bad as I have seen Ckeveland play in some time.
• vball10set

  Azubuike24;1686094 wrote:John Lynch did make a decent point that the Browns playmakers need to adapt to playing with a scramble first, throw on the move QB.
  
  The Bengals did well in coverage, but Manziel did have a few plays where he had some scramble room and that's exactly where he's got potential to make big plays. He certainly doesn't look like he can drop back and make great throws from inside a pocket.

  Devils Advocate;1686095 wrote:In the absence of a running game, no one wins.
  
  JFF, or anyone else would have lost this game.

  Both good points, but what's the defenses' excuse?
• BR1986FB

  vball10set;1686124 wrote:Both good points, but what's the defenses' excuse?

  They definitely got gouged. Didn't put the playcalling in a position to succeed. No excuse for JFF though. He still looked like a rookie in his first start. Bad.
• se-alum

  

  I think Shannahan has to be less predictable with play calling. The Bengals didn't respect the passing game at all, and running every first down played right into their hands. That doesn't excuse the bad decisions that Manziel made, but you have to help a rookie QB a little more.
• BR1986FB

  se-alum;1686127 wrote:I think Shannahan has to be less predictable with play calling. The Bengals didn't respect the passing game at all, and running every first down played right into their hands. That doesn't excuse the bad decisions that Manziel made, but you have to help a rookie QB a little more.

  He did that shit against Buffalo and I was pulling my hair out. Set Hoyer up for failure with 2nd/3rd & longs almost every series. When they completed a rare pass on 1st down, it opened up the running game.
• believer

  

  
• vball10set

  lol
• SportsAndLady

  

  ^not surprised the old dudes thought that was funny
• HitsRus

  

  best defensive play of the day for the Browns....Jeremy Hill REJECTED!
  
  http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12027661/cleveland-browns-fan-denies-jeremy-hill-dawg-pound-leap
  
  
• like_that

  

  Well lhslep was spot on. There was going to be overreaction regardless of JFF's performance. Not really surprising. I do find it idiotic that some browns fans are mocking JFF's performance. You realize he plays for our team, right? I rather IQQY/FW be right and gloat about it, then us have to find a new QB after next season.
  
  JFF had a heavy dose of humble pie today. It might be what he needs, especially heading to the off season.
• vball10set

  SportsAndLady;1686142 wrote:^not surprised the old dudes thought that was funny

  lol
• vball10set

  ts1227;1686072 wrote:On the bright side, this is the first time in 6 weeks they didn't miss a FG

  lol, reps
• shook_17

  

  Like I said this is cleveland and nothing surprises me anymore
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1686147 wrote:Well lhslep was spot on. There was going to be overreaction regardless of JFF's performance. Not really surprising. I do find it idiotic that some browns fans are mocking JFF's performance. You realize he plays for our team, right? I rather IQQY/FW be right and gloat about it, then us have to find a new QB after next season.
  
  JFF had a heavy dose of humble pie today. It might be what he needs, especially heading to the off season.

  Yeah, I don't get the "use two 1st's to move up for Mariota" crap after just one game.
  
  A few could see this one coming from a mile away. Too much hype for the Browns/Manziel while the Bengals got to sit back and lay low.
  
  Now that all of the commotion has settled, let's see how JFF does before pulling the plug. He looked like shit today but so have many rookies in their first start.