Browns @ Bills

• Footwedge

  BR1986FB;1680623 wrote:Hoyer seems to be brutal in the red zone. So many FG's and not enough TD's. This is why I've been advocating some kind of red zone package for Manziel. We saw yesterday what he can do inside the 20. Will it be throwing for TD's? Maybe, maybe not, but he's a threat to move the chains with his feet. My biggest concern, as Al Bundy mentioned on the other thread, is his grasp of the playbook. Are they going to have to condense it to 15-20 plays or does he know it?

  15 to 20 plays. LMAO. He sure had trouble grasping the playbook yesterday didn't he?
• Footwedge

  Classyposter58;1680619 wrote:As someone who casually watches the Browns you are correct sir. I mean Manziel might not be a better passer but he at least has good speed and can make plays happen in that way. Hoyer has played 1 potential playoff team in the Bengals in the last 7 games with a statline that reads 4 TD's & 9 INT's. You cannot continue to start him

  This just in...Manziel has the stronger arm and is 3 times more accurate than the guy that will be carrying the clipboard Sunday.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Footwedge;1680656 wrote:This just in...Manziel has the stronger arm and is 3 times more accurate than the guy that will be carrying the clipboard Sunday.

  You were only 8 games short in your prediction.
  
  Were you the guy who tried to hug Johnny last weekend?
• Sonofanump

  Commander of Awesome;1680608 wrote:People responding to buttwedge:
  
  

  Calling you out BR1986, put him on ignore for my sake.
• Footwedge

  BR1986FB;1680599 wrote:Haha...you're so fucking dumb. Not a chance. He admitted himself in his presser yesterday that "no way that (80 yard TD drive) happens in week 3." He's gotten progressively better, week by week, by watching and learning (his words, not my opinion).

  Apparently you don't understand what "politically correct" means. On top of everything else, Johnny Football knows how to handle the press with dignity...something Hoyer doesn't know how to do. The fuggin clown said that he was shocked that he was pulled. Hey Brian, not nearly as shocked as the fans that have watched your 27th qbr train wreck rating the you've "entertained" us with this year.
• Footwedge

  Commander of Awesome;1680608 wrote:People responding to buttwedge:
  
  

  
  A little asshurt that your boy will be carrying a clipboard for the rest of the season I see.
• Footwedge

  Sonofanump;1680659 wrote:Calling you out BR1986, put him on ignore for my sake.

  Another Hoyer nut hugger chiming in. What entertainment folks. So sorry that the 27th rated q'back is headed to the bench.
• Footwedge

  jmog;1680603 wrote:Late first rounders you can go with a RT, one of our 2 1st rounders will be in the bottom 12 (playoffs) most likely as I see either the Browns or Bills being right there.
  
  If they are both in the middle of the pack, then I say you can trade down one of them to a low first and go with a RT.
  
  If they have both and stay around mid 1st round, you are right, I say we go 2 defensive players and get a right side OL in the 2nd round.

  Jshmuck talking about the draft now that his boy has been benched. Hilarious.
• BR1986FB

  DeyDurkie5;1680657 wrote: Were you the guy who tried to hug Johnny last weekend?

  Close. He tried to give him a handy.
• BR1986FB

  Sonofanump;1680659 wrote:Calling you out BR1986, put him on ignore for my sake.

  I'll try not to quote him. The delusional stupidity amuses me. I knew that some Browns (in his case) "fans" were delusional but had no idea some could reach his levels.
• bases_loaded

  

  
  
  
  Found this on Reddit....and think it belongs here. An unbiased source explaining a picture of Johnny on the phone after his TD drive.
  
  
  
  For those of you who want context:
  Johnny Manziel is an NFL rookie who got to play in a professional game for the first time yesterday. In college, he was an award-winning, "put the team on his back" type of athlete who earned notoriety for his arrogant, "no fucks given" attitude on and off of the field.
  The franchise he plays for has kept him on the bench all season, as is the "traditional" strategy for getting a rookie quarterback acclimated to professional competition.
  Yesterday his team's starting quarterback was struggling, and in an attempt to change the momentum of the game, he was subbed in for the starting quarterback.
  The image you see is him after successfully leading his team to a much-needed touchdown shortly after taking the field. He is on a phone talking to team personnel that are situated indoors, away from the field.
  Fortunately (I say fortunately, because I was rooting for the opposite team), his smug grin was wiped clean from his face as the Bills continued to pound the ball down the throats of the Cleveland Browns, leaving Johnny Manziel an impossibly short amount of time to lead a comeback. With under three minutes remaining in the game, he was then laid out by a big, bad man named Kyle Williams, who knocked him over like a plank of wood
  
  An unbiased Bills fan explaining to non football people what the picture is.
  
  
  
• SportsAndLady

  

  bases_loaded;1680674 wrote:Found this on Reddit....and think it belongs here. An unbiased source explaining a picture of Johnny on the phone after his TD drive.
  
  For those of you who want context:
  Johnny Manziel is an NFL rookie who got to play in a professional game for the first time yesterday. In college, he was an award-winning, "put the team on his back" type of athlete who earned notoriety for his arrogant, "no fucks given" attitude on and off of the field.
  The franchise he plays for has kept him on the bench all season, as is the "traditional" strategy for getting a rookie quarterback acclimated to professional competition.
  Yesterday his team's starting quarterback was struggling, and in an attempt to change the momentum of the game, he was subbed in for the starting quarterback.
  The image you see is him after successfully leading his team to a much-needed touchdown shortly after taking the field. He is on a phone talking to team personnel that are situated indoors, away from the field.
  Fortunately (I say fortunately, because I was rooting for the opposite team), his smug grin was wiped clean from his face as the Bills continued to pound the ball down the throats of the Cleveland Browns, leaving Johnny Manziel an impossibly short amount of time to lead a comeback. With under three minutes remaining in the game, he was then laid out by a big, bad man named Kyle Williams, who knocked him over like a plank of wood.

  ??
• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1680676 wrote:??

  I'm lost on that one too.
• bases_loaded

  

  Just thought it was funny...the guy nailed Johnny's debut for people who couldn't give a rats ass.
• SportsAndLady

  

  So many places to go with that, I'm just gonna say that was retarded and end it there
• se-alum

  

  I would guess yesterday was a microcosm of what we should expect from Manziel. Leading 80 yard drives, then giving up a touchdown on a bad play(let's be honest, the officials blew that call, it was a fumble).
• bases_loaded

  

  SportsAndLady;1680679 wrote:So many places to go with that, I'm just gonna say that was retarded and end it there

  You won't be happy until its just 3 of you circle jerking over the same take.
• BR1986FB

  se-alum;1680680 wrote:I would guess yesterday was a microcosm of what we should expect from Manziel. Leading 80 yard drives, then giving up a touchdown on a bad play(let's be honest, the officials blew that call, it was a fumble).

  Yep. He's going to have plenty of "wow" and "wtf" moments. Let's hope there's more "wow's."
• bases_loaded

  

  se-alum;1680680 wrote:I would guess yesterday was a microcosm of what we should expect from Manziel. Leading 80 yard drives, then giving up a touchdown on a bad play(let's be honest, the officials blew that call, it was a fumble).

  That might have been the first play in years the Browns "got the call". Teflon John. Jerrod Cherry was acting as if you have to run a vanilla offense this week if Johnny is in. It looked like he was audibling fine yesterday. I don't care who is at QB as long as we have a chance to win. The defense is constantly putting the offense in position to score and they are coming away with field goals. Last week we got away with it, this week we didn't. I wanted the home town boy to be the savior of Cleveland, but his losses are bad and his wins aren't very good either.
• SportsAndLady

  

  bases_loaded;1680683 wrote:You won't be happy until its just 3 of you circle jerking over the same take.

  Huh?
  
  I don't even know what your reddit comment was supposed to fucking mean
  
  It was just very comical to me that you said from an unbiased source...who was a bills fan
  
  And that you seemed to be cheering against manziel..? As a Browns fan..?
• bases_loaded

  

  unbiased...as in...isn't a Hoyer or Manziel GUY like our fan base has divided into all season. I have never cheered against any QB of the Browns. Winning is better than anything.
• BR1986FB

  bases_loaded;1680687 wrote:That might have been the first play in years the Browns "got the call". Teflon John. Jerrod Cherry was acting as if you have to run a vanilla offense this week if Johnny is in. It looked like he was audibling fine yesterday. I don't care who is at QB as long as we have a chance to win. The defense is constantly putting the offense in position to score and they are coming away with field goals. Last week we got away with it, this week we didn't. I wanted the home town boy to be the savior of Cleveland, but his losses are bad and his wins aren't very good either.

  Agreed. Don't who is back there, as long as he isn't raping college chicks in bathroom stalls. Just want to see wins.
  
  The FG's (and getting knocked out of FG range after taking a sack), after Haden picking the ball off inside of the opponents 30 in two consectutive weeks are maddening.
• like_that

  

  bases_loaded;1680692 wrote:I have never cheered against any QB of the Browns. Winning is better than anything.

  This is pretty much everyone else's attitude except failwedge and iqqy. I thought this was pretty apparent....
  
  
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• BR1986FB

  SportsAndLady;1680688 wrote: And that you seemed to be cheering against manziel..? As a Browns fan..?

  I think that's most the Johnny nuthuggers who are cheering against Hoyer. They are Johnny "fanboys" (not true fans) and will stoop so low as to wishing injury on a Browns player just so they can wank to the sight of #2 on the field.
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1680694 wrote:Agreed. Don't who is back there, as long as he isn't raping college chicks in bathroom stalls. Just want to see wins.
  
  The FG's (and getting knocked out of FG range after taking a sack), after Haden picking the ball off inside of the opponents 30 in two consectutive weeks are maddening.

  Yup, that should have been the turning point for the game.
  
  
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