Browns @ Falcons

• Footwedge

  Mulva;1678283 wrote:You mean like being 10-4 as a starting QB?

  But, but, but FW...10-4!...10-4!. LMAO. Just like clockwork. the 10 and 4 clubbers are out in full force. How about 9-2!...9-2! if the best quarterback on the team were playing against the weakest schedule in all of football. Yes 9-2 and jockeying for position of home field throughout.
• BR1986FB

  Footwedge;1678285 wrote:Yet another brilliant retort by our overeaters anonymous resident. Exactly how many times did Manziel play with the first team offensive line, wide receivers? Weren't you the one Sunday calling for McGoo's head?
  
  Go back to sucking on Hoyer's nutsack. Rejoin the club of loving the most innacurate quarterback in the NFL.

  I want to see Manziel get some packages in the red zone, where Hoyer pisses down his leg. I think Hoyer is fine between the 20's. He just sucks ass when they get down close. Utilize Manziel's athleticism down close. And that doesn't mean he has to throw the ball either. That read option would keep a lot of teams guessing inside the 20.
  
  Truth be told, I don't think their QB of the future is on this roster. I think this is the closest they will be to sniffing the playoffs in awhile and I'd like to see them get in, Alzheimers.
• BR1986FB

  Jesus, can we stop it with the "10-4" bullshit? He played like one series against Buffalo and gets the "W?" If an MLB starter goes an inning and blows out his elbow and then the relievers come in and finish off the game, and it's a win, does the starter get the "W?" So stupid....he's 9-4.
• Footwedge

  jmog;1678294 wrote:No, moron, you are the one that in the same post that talked about his scrambling and then stated he would get 75+ yards a game. So, you are the one that connected scrambling with rushing yards.
  
  Once you realized how stupid you sounded you changed your stance and started talking about Tarkenton.

  I have always compared Manziel's ability to Tarkenton. If Manziel wants to gain 75 yards running down the field, then he'll do it if that is what it takes to win a particular game That's what winners do. They do what it takes to win. As a 19 year old, he won the Heisman and shredded the eventual natinalk champs in Tuscaloosa with both his arm and his feet. I never said he would AVERAGE 75 yards a game. It was your inference not mine. And then you went on your child's rant about Manziel and his inability to scramble. Now tell me again how many yards Vick has run for. LMAO.
• Footwedge

  BR1986FB;1678302 wrote:I want to see Manziel get some packages in the red zone, where Hoyer pisses down his leg. I think Hoyer is fine between the 20's. He just sucks ass when they get down close. Utilize Manziel's athleticism down close. And that doesn't mean he has to throw the ball either. That read option would keep a lot of teams guessing inside the 20.
  
  Truth be told, I don't think their QB of the future is on this roster. I think this is the closest they will be to sniffing the playoffs in awhile and I'd like to see them get in, Alzheimers.

  I agree that that the future quarterback may not be on this roster. If Kojak gets his way, the future hall of famer will be shipped off to Dallas.
• Mulva

  

  Footwedge;1678296 wrote:But, but, but FW...10-4!...10-4!. LMAO. Just like clockwork. the 10 and 4 clubbers are out in full force. How about 9-2!...9-2! if the best quarterback on the team were playing against the weakest schedule in all of football. Yes 9-2 and jockeying for position of home field throughout.

  9-2 is an opinion. 10-4 is a fact. You can't debate it. That's your rule, not mine.
• BR1986FB

  I was talking about the future QB who was "good enough" to get them to where they want to be (championship caliber). Manziel may end up decent but I think his shelf life for the league won't be long.
• Al Bundy

  from post #510

  Footwedge;1678307 wrote:So....you play the guy with the stronger arm, MUCH more accurate arm, the ability to run for 75 yards plus per game, and you will lose 4 more games....got it. Is there a sale going on regarding dumb pill you want to share? .

  from post #676

  Footwedge;1678307 wrote: I have always compared Manziel's ability to Tarkenton. If Manziel wants to gain 75 yards running down the field, then he'll do it if that is what it takes to win a particular game That's what winners do. They do what it takes to win. As a 19 year old, he won the Heisman and shredded the eventual natinalk champs in Tuscaloosa with both his arm and his feet. I never said he would AVERAGE 75 yards a game. It was your inference not mine. And then you went on your child's rant about Manziel and his inability to scramble. Now tell me again how many yards Vick has run for. LMAO.

• Footwedge

  jmog;1678286 wrote:You keep harping on many things, but 2 in particular are rather funny.
  
  1. Hoyer's completion percentage is the worst in the NFL
  2. Manziel outperformed Hoyer in the preseason in every game.
  
  Right now Hoyer is at 56% completion, which you are correct, is the worst of all "qualifying" QBs this season.
  Hoyer's preseason completion percentage was 54.5, so he is slightly better right now than preseason, but right at where we thought he was.
  
  What was Manziel's preseason completion percentage oh Failwedge? 50.8%...that's right, nearly 4 points lower than Hoyer's. So, you are rather incorrect on the "he outplayed Hoyer in all 4 games" especially since you like to pile on the completion percentage stats.
  
  Keep showing how much of a moron you are and keep touting college stats. If you want to tout college stats I would bet that Tebow and Troy Smith were just as good or better college stats than Manziel, and how did they pan out in the NFL? College stats mean nearly zero in the NFL, especially at QB.
  
  Do I think Manziel will be terrible? Absolutely not, he needs time to learn the system and how to play QB effectively in the NFL.
  
  Anyone who understands how the NFL works, especially at the QB position, knows we'd be lucky to be .500 with Manziel, but would probably be worse.

  50% completion rate is waybetter than 41% put up by Mr. McGoo is it not Einstein? Secondly, Manziel AT THAT TIME was as green as can possibly be...having never played a down in the NFL...Inspite of that...he still outperformed the undrafted, thrice cut free agent out of Michigan State. Pretty remarkable if you ask me.
  
  As for your "lucky to be 500 with Manziel this year...you sir are an idiot. When you play the guy with the stronger arm, the MUCH more accurate arm, and a guy that can move sticks with his feet, you will win more games...not less. It's not a difficult concept to pick up for competent people.
  
  Cue the "but...but...but FW...what about all the other rookie quarterbacks." LMAO
• BR1986FB

  FW may be an Alzheimer's riddled, douchebag dumbfuck but it doesn't look like he said Manziel would "average" 75 ypg. It says the "ability" to run for 75 ypg.
• Footwedge

  Al Bundy;1678320 wrote:from post #510
  
  
  from post #676

  Al Turdy chimes in with his encyclopedia of my posts. Why don't you get a fuckin life other than archiving my posts? I also posted that I exaggerated above on his yards per game...care to post that?
• Footwedge

  BR1986FB;1678317 wrote:I was talking about the future QB who was "good enough" to get them to where they want to be (championship caliber). Manziel may end up decent but I think his shelf life for the league won't be long.

  Listen up lardo...Tarkenton was 5' nothing and weighed about a buck fitty. He lasted close to 2 decades. The great Merlin Olsen once said ":I hate Tarkenton" Why? Because he couldn't catch the sonaofabitch.
  
  If I'm alive, I'll buy you your favorite breakfast of Krispy Cremes the day Johnny enters the halls of Canton.
• Footwedge

  Mulva;1678316 wrote:9-2 is an opinion. 10-4 is a fact. You can't debate it. That's your rule, not mine.

  Yes 9-2 is an opinion,,,,and it's based on deductive reasonng If A>B and B> C, then A will be >C. Amicorrect? Well of course I am. If Mr. McGoo has the worst completion percentage in the league and you insert a quarterback that is MUCH more accurate, has a stronger arm and can move the sticks with his feet, well then deductive reasoning has this team at 9-2....looking for home field advantage throughout the playoffs.
• BR1986FB

  Footwedge;1678325 wrote:Listen up lardo...Tarkenton was 5' nothing and weighed about a buck fitty. He lasted close to 2 decades. The great Merlin Olsen once said ":I hate Tarkenton" Why? Because he couldn't catch the sonaofabitch.

  I know who Tarkenton is, gramps. I watched him play when I was a youth. I wasn't 40, like you, when you watched him in 1974. I rooted like crazy for his Vikings to beat some Steeler ass in Super Bowl IX.
• Footwedge

  BR1986FB;1678272 wrote:Yeah, Booms' partner, Kiley, was trying to point out that it wasn't a "good idea" for Manziel to be out at 2:30am in the morning ("nothing good happens after midnight, etc") and Booms response? Hoyer's completion percentage. Booms is such a worthless turd.

  Johhny Football, a 21 year old adult was up after midnight? Oh my God. Of my God. Move over Ray Rice... we have a much more serious development brewing here.
• Al Bundy

  Footwedge;1678325 wrote:Listen up lardo...Tarkenton was 5' nothing and weighed about a buck fitty.

  Isn't he one of the few QB's to have a lower career QB rating than the awful Brian Hoyer?
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1678302 wrote:
  Truth be told, I don't think their QB of the future is on this roster. I think this is the closest they will be to sniffing the playoffs in awhile and I'd like to see them get in, Alzheimers.

  You have somehow turned into iqqy the last few weeks.
• BR1986FB

  Ok
• Commander of Awesome

  

  This thread went full retard.
• thavoice

  Footwedge;1678335 wrote:Johhny Football, a 21 year old adult was up after midnight? Oh my God. Of my God. Move over Ray Rice... we have a much more serious development brewing here.

  If he hadnt had his goons beat up some guy it woulda been no big deal and no one woulda known
• BR1986FB

  thavoice;1678393 wrote:If he hadnt had his goons beat up some guy it woulda been no big deal and no one woulda known

  I'm calling bullshit on this story. The guy who got the shit kicked out of him is saying he "wanted a hug" yet never took a step toward Manziel and Manziel's buddy kicked the shit out of him? If that happens to you or I we say "no thanks, but I appreciate it bro" or some shit like that. We don't just have some guy jump a fan for no reason. There's way more to this than is being revealed.
  
  My whole issue with him being out later is that he's a target. Just like I've said about Josh Gordon. Stay away from the situations where weed is available, if it is truly "second hand" LOL, and you'll be fine. If Manziel is in long before 2:30, he's gonna have less chance to encounter late night drunk douchebags. It's not that I think Manziel's a troublemaker or out there looking for trouble.
• thavoice

  BR1986FB;1678402 wrote:I'm calling bullshit on this story. The guy who got the shit kicked out of him is saying he "wanted a hug" yet never took a step toward Manziel and Manziel's buddy kicked the shit out of him? If that happens to you or I we say "no thanks, but I appreciate it bro" or some shit like that. We don't just have some guy jump a fan for no reason. There's way more to this than is being revealed.
  
  My whole issue with him being out later is that he's a target. Just like I've said about Josh Gordon. Stay away from the situations where weed is available, if it is truly "second hand" LOL, and you'll be fine. If Manziel is in long before 2:30, he's gonna have less chance to encounter late night drunk douchebags. It's not that I think Manziel's a troublemaker or out there looking for trouble.

  Unless he runs into Tiernan. That could happen at brunch.
• jmog

  Footwedge;1678321 wrote:50% completion rate is waybetter than 41% put up by Mr. McGoo is it not Einstein? Secondly, Manziel AT THAT TIME was as green as can possibly be...having never played a down in the NFL...Inspite of that...he still outperformed the undrafted, thrice cut free agent out of Michigan State. Pretty remarkable if you ask me.
  
  As for your "lucky to be 500 with Manziel this year...you sir are an idiot. When you play the guy with the stronger arm, the MUCH more accurate arm, and a guy that can move sticks with his feet, you will win more games...not less. It's not a difficult concept to pick up for competent people.
  
  Cue the "but...but...but FW...what about all the other rookie quarterbacks." LMAO

  Hoyer has 56% for the season and was at 54.5% in the preseason, at what point was he 41%? Or is that just another piece of BS you invented yourself, like the Breowns making the playoffs?
• Footwedge

  BRF;1678006 wrote:Fran Tarkenton was very very good. I can see how Manziel could be compared to him.
  
  Mr. Magoo was a funny cartoon character about a near-sighted guy who lucked out everywhere he walked or drove.

  Tell you what olebuddy, this Sunday, when Hoyer throws his usual array of dirt balls, air balls and dropped pick sixes, and somehow escapes with yet another win, you and I can stand up in unison and yell. "Oh McGoo. you've done it again." Bwahahahah. Then I'll drive down to Coshocton and treat you to 9 holes at River Greens along the banks of the Tuscarawas River. My all time best score was 76...at River Greens.
• jmog

  Funny thing is, Failwedge is so engrossed with Tarkenton and how well Manziel compares, all while complaining about Hoyer's completion percentages...
  
  Hoyer-56% completion this season.
  Tarkenton-57% completion throughout his career.
  Hoyer-82.3 QBR this season
  Tarkenton-80.4 QBR for his career.
  
  So are you saying that Manziel could be 1% better than Hoyer?