2014-2015 Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread

• Sonofanump

  Classyposter58;1734643 wrote:The refs have been bad both ways folks
  
  
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  No.
• robj55

  

  Supporting cast is so bad, Warriors have other players who can make impact plays, Cavs don't, pretty simple.
• Dr. KnOiTaLL

  

  robj55;1734661 wrote:Supporting cast is so bad, Warriors have other players who can make impact plays, Cavs don't, pretty simple.

  Harrison Barnes blows, but he out-hustled us on multiple occasions.
• Dr. KnOiTaLL

  

  HighRoller74;1734659 wrote:Delly may be the worst offensive player to ever play serious minutes in the finals. His defense is the only thing that makes him a respectable NBA player.

  And his D doesn't even matter when Curry is hitting shots like that.
• Azubuike24

  

  I think Love isn't a huge loss, but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
  
  The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.
• Sonofanump

  Azubuike24;1734664 wrote:and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.

  I don't seem to see the refs calling fouls much at all when he gets fouled.
• robj55

  

  Azubuike24;1734664 wrote:I think Love isn't a huge loss, but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
  
  The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.

  Love is absolutely a huge loss, Tristan has no offense and clogs the paint, look how hard it is for Lebron to drive to the rim. There is no spacing out there even with the small lineup.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Azubuike24;1734664[B wrote:]I think Love isn't a huge loss[/B], but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
  
  The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.

  Wrong.
  
  They wouldn't be able to go small if Kevin Love was still available. Why everyone continues to discredit Love is beyond me.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  Love and Kyrie are huge losses. That said, cleveland would still be an underdog against this team. I'd just like our chances a lot more with them.
• Dr. KnOiTaLL

  

  Azubuike24;1734664 wrote:I think Love isn't a huge loss, but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
  
  The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.

  Love is one of our best floor spacers. To say he's not a huge loss is idiotic. He's only 16 and 10 every night with 1-2 threes. No big deal.
• robj55

  

  HighRoller74;1734668 wrote:Wrong.
  
  They wouldn't be able to go small if Kevin Love was still available. Why everyone continues to discredit Love is beyond me.

  Because Thompson is a max player!! haha
• Classyposter58

  

  DeyDurkie5;1734657 wrote:We should ask Detroit how they came back from a depression

  Right? Crazy such an downtrodden city has still produced multiple NBA, MLB and Stanley Cup championship teams and Cleveland still has not produced any in the last 50 years
  
  
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• robj55

  

  Classyposter58;1734674 wrote:Right? Crazy such an downtrodden city has still produced multiple NBA Championship teams and Cleveland still has not
  
  
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  Has nothing to do with the city, did they win with homegrown talent? This isn't college.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Classyposter58;1734674 wrote:Right? Crazy such an downtrodden city has still produced multiple NBA Championship teams and Cleveland still has not
  
  
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  Yeah it is. Crazy how a downtrodden city still is downtrodden after all these years of broke ass living
• Classyposter58

  

  DeyDurkie5;1734676 wrote:Yeah it is. Crazy how a downtrodden city still is downtrodden after all these years of broke ass living

  At least those broke people have still been able to see championship parades downtown
  
  
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• Azubuike24

  

  I'm not saying Love isn't a loss, but the Cavs played 2 series without him. They played well. Even very well in a few of those games. They could have won this series without him, especially against Golden State. That was my point. I'd rather have Kyrie in this series over Love (obviously you would want both...).
• sleeper

  

  Footwedge;1734576 wrote:Cavs secure ball with 22.3 on the game clock and get an 8 second call with 16.0 left. Go figure.

  It was a bad call.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  Azubuike24;1734679 wrote:I'm not saying Love isn't a loss, but the Cavs played 2 series without him. They played well. Even very well in a few of those games. They could have won this series without him, especially against Golden State. That was my point. I'd rather have Kyrie in this series over Love (obviously you would want both...).

  You're discrediting just how terrible the East is. If they played in the west, they don't make it to the semis without love.
• sleeper

  

  Azubuike24;1734679 wrote:I'm not saying Love isn't a loss, but the Cavs played 2 series without him. They played well. Even very well in a few of those games. They could have won this series without him, especially against Golden State. That was my point. I'd rather have Kyrie in this series over Love (obviously you would want both...).

  Agreed. Losing Kyrie is a bigger loss.
  
  Not sure how the Cavs can win this series. The refs continuously swallowing their whistles is extremely frustrating.
• robj55

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734681 wrote:You're discrediting just how terrible the East is. If they played in the west, they don't make it to the semis without love.

  Yeah the west is so good that the 67 win warriors can barely beat the Cavs without Love, Kyrie and Varejao. GS should hand Cleveland the trophy, embarrassing to be struggling against THIS Cavs team.
• sleeper

  

  Dr. KnOiTaLL;1734605 wrote:Its truly amazing how the NBA can justify that these are the best refs and that they're calling an unbiased game. Just because LeBron has good genes and has worked his tail off in the weight room shouldn't mean that he doesn't get the same calls as Draymond, Klay, and Iguodala. It's getting really freaking old.

  THIS. Also, the NBA needs to have the refs learn how to call a moving screen. The Warriors are grabbing legs, jerseys, arms, legs, as well as moving and we get what, one moving screen call all game?
• robj55

  

  I can't believe that Draymond and Klay get the same call that Lebron doesn't, no respect.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Blatt is going in on these reporters and their dumb questions.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  robj55;1734683 wrote:Yeah the west is so good that the 67 win warriors can barely beat the Cavs without Love, Kyrie and Varejao. GS should hand Cleveland the trophy, embarrassing to be struggling against THIS Cavs team.

  Golden State had the fortune of playing against hurt teams all playoffs. The west is hands down better than the east. GS is +25 against Cleveland not with back to back double digit wins. Don't make it something it's not.
• sleeper

  

  HighRoller74;1734687 wrote:Blatt is going in on these reporters and their dumb questions.

  LOL. Yeah these questions are terrible.