Raiders at Browns

• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1667508 wrote:I do think that JFF has a stronger arm on the short/intermediate stuff but can't throw the long ball worth a shit. Neither of them can.

  He can improve that though. I think Manziel can be very effective, just like Hoyer, if the running game is going.
  
  That being said, you don't put Manziel in until the season spirals out of control. You're sending a piss poor message to the whole team if you bail on Hoyer after 2 weeks.
  
  I think we all know that Hoyer is not the future of this franchise. It's ok for a rookie not to start, especially without gordon out there. I am not saying Hoyer is great, but how many QBs in the league would be torching defenses without Cameron, gordon, and any type of running game? Legitimate question, do you guys think $100 mil Dalton would do better than Hoyer with the same personnel?
• GoChiefs

  

  Only in Cleveland. After 7 weeks, the Browns are above .500 for the first time since 2007, and some of you morons still aren't happy. Smdh.
• like_that

  

  Another note on manziel. I think it's good for him to get some humble pie by standing on the sideline. I am sure he is getting a harsh reality of "oh shit, I am no longer that star everyone knows, and I need to prove myself again." Luckily manziel isn't a ***** and take that as motivation to keep improving.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1667512 wrote:He can improve that though. I think Manziel can be very effective, just like Hoyer, if the running game is going.
  
  That being said, you don't put Manziel in until the season spirals out of control. You're sending a piss poor message to the whole team if you bail on Hoyer after 2 weeks.
  
  I think we all know that Hoyer is not the future of this franchise. It's ok for a rookie not to start, especially without gordon out there. I am not saying Hoyer is great, but how many QBs in the league would be torching defenses without Cameron, gordon, and any type of running game? Legitimate question, do you guys think $100 mil Dalton would do better than Hoyer with the same personnel?

  I agree with most of what you're saying and I think that after two potential poor performances in the next two weeks, we may see Manziel sooner than later.
  
  And NO, Andy Dalton isn't good.
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1667515 wrote:I agree with most of what you're saying and I think that after two potential poor performances in the next two weeks, we may see Manziel sooner than later.
  
  And NO, Andy Dalton isn't good.

  I brought Dalton up to put things in perspective. I can't see him doing any much better with Hawkins as his best WR.
• Tiernan

  Dalton will torch Cleveburgh like Sherman did Atlanta in two weeks.
• BR1986FB

  Tiernan;1667531 wrote:Dalton will torch Cleveburgh like Sherman did Atlanta in two weeks.

  The only "torch" you'll see from Dalton is that "Heat Miser" shit he has going on top of his ginger head.
• Tiernan

  He lit up the Shit Birds for 350yds yesterday and their Def Backfield is better than Cleveburghs.
• like_that

  

  Tiernan;1667577 wrote:He lit up the Shit Birds for 350yds yesterday and their Def Backfield is better than Cleveburghs.

  Except you are nearly 100 yards off. Nice job following your own team dipshit.
• Tiernan

  266 yds in the air / 2 TDs rushing...did you see that sherlock?
• like_that

  

  Tiernan;1667592 wrote:266 yds in the air / 2 TDs rushing...did you see that sherlock?

  Still not even close to 350 yards. Keep trying harder deadbeat, we all know you didn't watch your own "team."
• lhslep134

  

  Footwedge;1667499 wrote: Curt Coleman lasted until the 7th round. I couldn't believe it. The guy hit people and wasn't bad as a cover guy either. He's been a great safety in the NFL.

  And finally the dumbest poster on the site comes through with bringing teh lolz by showing his complete ignorance to what actually is happening outside of the dumb little fairy tale world going on in his head.
  
  The last time Coleman was a full-time starter in the NFL was 2012 when he finished 85th out of 88 graded safeties on PFF. In 2013 he was finally benched and appeared in only 5 games. This year, he's now a backup on the Chiefs (after getting cut by the Vikings) where he's played only 32.5% of their defensive snaps.
  
  So no you ignorant geriatric codger, he hasn't been a great safety in the NFL.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Lol pwned
• BR1986FB

  Ouch
• Heretic

  

  Footwedge is to talent evaluation what Emmitt Smith is to the English language.
• derek bomar

  

  GoChiefs;1667513 wrote:Only in Cleveland. After 7 weeks, the Browns are above .500 for the first time since 2007, and some of you morons still aren't happy. Smdh.

  shake my dick hand?
• SportsAndLady

  

  derek bomar;1667615 wrote:shake my dick hand?

  Your boy Tate looked horrible yesterday. You loosening up on your Tate obsession or you gonna hold strong to avoid back tracking?
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1667618 wrote:Your boy Tate looked horrible yesterday. You loosening up on your Tate obsession or you gonna hold strong to avoid back tracking?

  I believe you are thinking about bases loaded.
• thavoice

  Well they did what they needed to to this week. Next week is an easy one against the buccs, and then they probably lose at Cincy making them 5-4.
  AFter that is a stretch where they win 2 of three and they will stand at 7-5. The last 4 I see them splitting and end the season at 9-7 which I dont think gets them into the playoffs but at least lays a good foundation for next year.
• SportsAndLady

  

  like_that;1667625 wrote:I believe you are thinking about bases loaded.

  Ahhhh shit
  
  Sorry bomar
• lhslep134

  

  GoChiefs;1667513 wrote:Only in Cleveland. After 7 weeks, the Browns are above .500 for the first time since 2007, and some of you morons still aren't happy. Smdh.

  I get what you're saying, but I also think it's fair to critique this team without being labeled as "unhappy"
• like_that

  

  lhslep134;1667630 wrote:I get what you're saying, but I also think it's fair to critique this team without being labeled as "unhappy"

  There's critiquing and there is doom/gloom posting like iqqy and FW.
• BR1986FB

  lhslep134;1667630 wrote:I get what you're saying, but I also think it's fair to critique this team without being labeled as "unhappy"

  Exactly. I'm tickled shitless that they have 4 wins (left a few on the table though) but if they don't fix this running game, it's going to neuter Hoyer's effectiveness. We're already seeing it. If that happens, Manziel's mobility might be able to open the offense a bit.
• shook_17

  

  Don't like the fact West got so many touches over Crow. I really dont understand that.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1667633 wrote:There's critiquing and there is doom/gloom posting like iqqy and FW.

  That comes with the territory. What do you expect? Iggy has always been like that. You could offer him a free steak and he'd bitch that it wasn't filet.