Browns @ Jags

• BR1986FB

  Commander of Awesome;1663760 wrote:Just an FYI, we were 3-2 at this point LAST SEASON. A collapse can and has happened. Don't get cocky expecting a whoppin' on the Jags.

  I don't think anyone is getting "cocky." We all know we are dealing with the Browns here. If they take care of their business, they SHOULD beat these teams.
  
  Not saying I "GUARANTEE" or that they "ARE" going to take care of business. Just saying, if they play like they're capable, they should be in real good shape going into Cincy.
• Footwedge

  thavoice;1663762 wrote:My brother reminded me of that last night when I asked if he was saving up for playoff tix yet.
  Difference is this year if Hoyer gets hurt you have Johnny Football to win the rest of the season.....right footwedge?

  You got it bro. I bet over the total wins on the Browns for the last 4 years. Finally, I might have a winner. Need 7 wins. Where are the SI pipsqueaks now that picked them 1-15?
  
  Very excited so far. But where is this top 10 defense that we were promised? Joe Haden had his usual 2 or 3 holding calls AGAIN last week. Pettine needs to take over the defense and let Einstein have 100% control of the offense.
  
  Injuries do suck and losingMack isgonna hurt.
• Tiernan

  like_that;1663765 wrote:Calling out your reverse jinx. Go fuck yourself deadbeat.

  But your team is so powerful and confident this season...I see no way they can possiblly lose over the next 3 weeks and the Thurs night game will be a HUGE test for the Bengals to beat the newest "America's Team".
• like_that

  

  Tiernan;1663798 wrote:But your team is so powerful and confident this season...I see no way they can possiblly lose over the next 3 weeks and the Thurs night game will be a HUGE test for the Bengals to beat the newest "America's Team".

  Deadbeat.
• thavoice

  They have a stretch against teams they should beat. In reality though, its the NFL and you lose some you shouldnt, and steal a few as well. I will say they go 2-1 in the next three before teh bengals on Thursday night. Been to prime time games in Cincy and they have that place rocking. If they go 2-1 which they should, that game in Cincy will be very telling about the direction of the franchise and if they are ready for the big time because they have a tough back half
• Heretic

  

  Footwedge;1663552 wrote:Now...back to football discussion. This afternoon on the Golden Boys, Goldhammer ran a poll as to who would be the Browns quarterback in 2016. The latest I heard from the poll was 55 to 51 in favor of Johnny Football. Nice to see that a little over half the listening audience understands a railroad job when they see one.

  So, you're saying that when asked, it's only 55-51 in favor of a 2014 first-round draft pick being the starter two years later? When you consider that first-round QBs aren't usually drafted to ride the pine for that long, the fact the margin is that close for two years down the line seems to say more about how favorably people feel about Hoyer than anything else.
• Footwedge

  Heretic;1663819 wrote:So, you're saying that when asked, it's only 55-51 in favor of a 2014 first-round draft pick being the starter two years later? When you consider that first-round QBs aren't usually drafted to ride the pine for that long, the fact the margin is that close for two years down the line seems to say more about how favorably people feel about Hoyer than anything else.

  Actually it's pretty remarkable that even with Hoyer's 99.5 qbr....that a slight majority of the fanbase still envision Manziel as the starting quarterback 2 years from now. Kojak handed the job to Hoyer....was not earned as is so touted around here.
• jmog

  Footwedge;1663865 wrote:Actually it's pretty remarkable that even with Hoyer's 99.5 qbr....that a slight majority of the fanbase still envision Manziel as the starting quarterback 2 years from now. Kojak handed the job to Hoyer....was not earned as is so touted around here.

  Manziel did not earn it either, they both sucked in preseason. Hoyer at least showed he COULD do it in the NFL last season. Manziel has proven nothing in the NFL yet as his preseason sucked.
  
  And FYI, I am a Manziel fan, I hope he becomes the next Randall Cunningham/John Elway/Steve Young. However, he was the wrong choice for THIS SEASON. Next season or the year after he very well could/should be the starter.
• queencitybuckeye

  Footwedge;1663865 wrote: Kojak handed the job to Hoyer....was not earned as is so touted around here.

  And is obvious to anyone not brain damaged that it was the correct decision.
• thavoice

  And what is Hoyer's record as a starter in the NFL?
  WInning is winning and you have to go with the guy who gets you the W's
  Unless you think Manzier can be like Kap replacing Alex Smith...
• Al Bundy

  Footwedge;1663865 wrote:Actually it's pretty remarkable that even with Hoyer's 99.5 qbr....that a slight majority of the fanbase still envision Manziel as the starting quarterback 2 years from now. Kojak handed the job to Hoyer....was not earned as is so touted around here.

  Manziel showed over the summer that 1) he is not very smart and 2) he is poor decision maker. Hopefully he gets his priorities in order and is willing to work harder, but do you really want the guy who doesn't understand an NFL playbook and chooses to spend the summer partying instead of learning the playbook to lead your team? We would be 1-4 (at best).
• 1_beast

  

  Crimson streak;1663643 wrote:I would really like to see Crowell get more and more carries each week and eventually take over as the main back. Definitely the most talented back we have. It just seems like he always finds the openings. On another note. How awesome has farmer been with finding these Undrafted guys. Crowell, Williams, Gabriel. All have had big impacts so far

  Me too! I just picked him up off waivers in my fantasy league to fill in for (letdown) Lesean McCoy (bye). McCoy...err Spoles has killed my rushing game. lol
• like_that

  

  Crowell and West won't be getting any more carries if they can't do the little things. Crowell fucked up two pitches and fumbled last week. I believe he also fucked up a pitch play against the ravens or saints in a crucial time as well. Same shit with West. He fucked up a few plays by going the wrong way, which both turned out to be costly. They both look great running the ball, but until they do all the little things, they won't be taking any carries away from Tate.
• Footwedge

  Al Bundy;1663918 wrote:Manziel showed over the summer that 1) he is not very smart and 2) he is poor decision maker. Hopefully he gets his priorities in order and is willing to work harder, but do you really want the guy who doesn't understand an NFL playbook and chooses to spend the summer partying instead of learning the playbook to lead your team? We would be 1-4 (at best).

  Based on Manziel's incredible wonderlic test score I'd be careful in labeling him not very smart. Yeah the guy was so stupid that he outplayed Hoyer in 4 exhibition games and the Akron scrimmage. Kojak kowtowed to the Jaworskis and Essiasons of the world. This team would most likely be 5-0 right now if they played Manny Ramirez instead of Wayne Kirby.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Can we please get a footwedge thread ban? He adds nothing to the discussion of the actual topic at hand
• Crimson streak

  

  Footwedge;1663963 wrote:Based on Manziel's incredible wonderlic test score I'd be careful in labeling him not very smart. Yeah the guy was so stupid that he outplayed Hoyer in 4 exhibition games and the Akron scrimmage. Kojak kowtowed to the Jaworskis and Essiasons of the world. This team would most likely be 5-0 right now if they played Manny Ramirez instead of Wayne Kirby.

  I swear you said by even 2 weeks ago that Manziel wouldn't have even won 2 games so far. Now I know you are just trolling
• Al Bundy

  Footwedge;1663963 wrote:Based on Manziel's incredible wonderlic test score I'd be careful in labeling him not very smart. Yeah the guy was so stupid that he outplayed Hoyer in 4 exhibition games and the Akron scrimmage. Kojak kowtowed to the Jaworskis and Essiasons of the world. This team would most likely be 5-0 right now if they played Manny Ramirez instead of Wayne Kirby.

  One can do well on standardized test and not be that smart. For example, don't you claim to have scored high on the SAT?
• BRF

  

  Footwedge;1663963 wrote: This team would most likely be 5-0 right now if they played Manny Ramirez instead of Wayne Kirby.

  I actually get that comparison.
  
  Although, I disagree.
  
  Let's enjoy our current success!
  
  Go Browns!
• Commander of Awesome

  

  DeyDurkie5;1663969 wrote:Can we please get a footwedge thread ban? He adds nothing to the discussion of the actual topic at hand

  No durkie. Don't QQ for mods now in the Browns thread. Either ignore or pwn. Crying for mods, lol sack up.
• shook_17

  

  All the trolls thank you for the lulz the last couple pages. The national media is loving them some Cleveland right now, and I love it. I could def get use to this.
  
  Do you guys think Cameron resigns with us at the end of the year or do we tag him?
  
  What about Jabal Sheard? Does he resign or walk?
  
  Rubin, resign or walk?
  
  Hoyer they let play out til the end of the year, worse case senerio is he doesn't resign, we tag him or let him walk.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Resign everyone but Rubin is what i think happens
• jmog

  shook_17;1664152 wrote:All the trolls thank you for the lulz the last couple pages. The national media is loving them some Cleveland right now, and I love it. I could def get use to this.
  
  Do you guys think Cameron resigns with us at the end of the year or do we tag him?
  
  What about Jabal Sheard? Does he resign or walk?
  
  Rubin, resign or walk?
  
  Hoyer they let play out til the end of the year, worse case senerio is he doesn't resign, we tag him or let him walk.

  I'd be surprised if we let Rubin go. Sheard doesn't even start I'd eventually cut ties with either him or Mingo.
  
  I can see the chances of them re-signing are in this order (from highest to least).
  
  Cameron, Rubin, Hoyer, Sheard.
• salto

  

  Dr. KnOiTaLL;1663040 wrote:This is a trap game if I've ever seen one....

  Feeling the same thing. I think Jacksonville is improving, just not as quickly as the Browns this season.
  Hoyer leads the Browns to a 2nd half comeback victory against the Jags.
• salto

  

  IggyPride00;1663394 wrote:Brian Hoyer needs to call Peyton Hillis and ask him how well pushing his luck and being a primadonna worked out for him.
  
  One year flash in the pans have no business trying to dictate personnel decisions, particularly when they are going to be 30 years old at the start of their next contract.

  Peyton Hillis was not a QB.
  
  Hope this helps.
• GOONx19

  

  According to the weekly Dicks Sporting Goods report, Hoyer beat Manziel in jersey sales this week for the first time. Hoyer 6th, JFF 11th.