Detroit @ Cleveland.....Hold that Tiger!

• BR1986FB

  To quote Brady Quinn in his EAS commercial....."now they're done."
• Footwedge

  Not dead...just need to win tonight and tomorrow. Could be dead after tomorrow.
• HitsRus

  

  ^^this. Gonna lose some games, this just puts more pressure on. We absolutely have to win one game minimum of this series as each of these games are 2 game swings. We need some offense....bad.
• TBone14

  

  Footwedge;1650074 wrote:Not dead...just need to win tonight and tomorrow. Could be dead after tomorrow.

  HitsRus;1650090 wrote:^^this. Gonna lose some games, this just puts more pressure on. We absolutely have to win one game minimum of this series as each of these games are 2 game swings. We need some offense....bad.

  I am with you guys. I guarantee the guys in the clubhouse aren't hanging their head and packing it in. They have shown an uncanny ability to rebound from exactly these situations. I won't bury them yet.
  
  The saddest thing is 9,990 in the house. Tough with school back in session and the day after a holiday but still...that is pretty sad for a team in contention.
  
  The Marlins had 17k in the house last night. Even the Rays who are dead and out and notorious for shitty crowds had a bigger crowd. Twins had 24k. Astros had 17k. 30 games under .500 Colorado had 25k.
• Ironman92

  

  Why is the attendance so low? Reds aren't great on attendance but I think had double the attendance of Cleveland during the 2 games series.
• Ironman92

  

  People saving their Indians ticket money to buy Cavs tickets? Economy sucks?
• HitsRus

  

  I was one of those 9990...we sat in the Terrace club and got seats on the glass without a reservation. the stadium seemed empty
  

  that is pretty sad for a team in contention

  
  VERY sad....no excuse for not having at least 14K
• Classyposter58

  

  Ironman92;1650114 wrote:Why is the attendance so low? Reds aren't great on attendance but I think had double the attendance of Cleveland during the 2 games series.

  Because it's a joke of a fan base. Honestly though Cleveland is averaging 18,000 a game and 43% capacity for their games, IMO the team should be moved
• Ironman92

  

  Classyposter58;1650151 wrote:Because it's a joke of a fan base. Honestly though Cleveland is averaging 18,000 a game and 43% capacity for their games, IMO the team should be moved

  Nice try. The same franchise that sold out every game forever. No they never won it all but that's never stopped them before. Football is the clear cut #1, LeBron returning makes Cavs a powerful drawing #2....but the Indians have a good shot at the playoffs. As a huge baseball fan they aren't a real attractive team to watch but they should have plenty of regulars who follow no matter what and being in a pennant race and vs the Tigers....below 20,000 is sad. Maybe they just feel they have no chance against the Tigers.
• thavoice

  Classyposter58;1650151 wrote:Because it's a joke of a fan base. Honestly though Cleveland is averaging 18,000 a game and 43% capacity for their games, IMO the team should be moved[/QUOTE]
  
  
  
  Rachel Phelps would agree.

• Classyposter58

  

  Honestly though it's like is Cleveland wealth wise that much worse off than the metro Detroit area? I just don't get it because going to Tigers games are such a big deal around there and have been since the '06 Pennant. Cleveland won 92 games last season and is in the thick of a playoff race in September, I don't get how the ballpark is that empty. I mean look at the last midweek night game Detroit had against Pittsburgh, was a Wednesday night and they nearly sold out the place
• TBone14

  

  Classyposter58;1650175 wrote:Honestly though it's like is Cleveland wealth wise that much worse off than the metro Detroit area? I just don't get it because going to Tigers games are such a big deal around there and have been since the '06 Pennant. Cleveland won 92 games last season and is in the thick of a playoff race in September, I don't get how the ballpark is that empty. I mean look at the last midweek night game Detroit had against Pittsburgh, was a Wednesday night and they nearly sold out the place

  Ownership has turned off a lot of fans. While Ilitch has proven time and time again that he will do anything possible to win, our ownership has done nothing but trade our players for peanuts instead of paying them.
  
  This is back to back years of putting a consistent product on the field but years of trading our Cy Young winners for prospects that never worked out put a bad taste in many mouths. Is that a valid excuse to stay away from the park? Probably not. The guys they have on the field now certainly deserve more support than they get.
  
  The value at the ball park is very reasonable. Some of the cheapest concessions in the league. Tickets aren't too bad price-wise. Fun bars and restaurants around the stadium. I really can't put my finger on the exact root of the attendance issue.
• thavoice

  TBone14;1650177 wrote:Ownership has turned off a lot of fans. While Ilitch has proven time and time again that he will do anything possible to win, our ownership has done nothing but trade our players for peanuts instead of paying them.
  
  This is back to back years of putting a consistent product on the field but years of trading our Cy Young winners for prospects that never worked out put a bad taste in many mouths. Is that a valid excuse to stay away from the park? Probably not. The guys they have on the field now certainly deserve more support than they get.
  
  The value at the ball park is very reasonable. Some of the cheapest concessions in the league. Tickets aren't too bad price-wise. Fun bars and restaurants around the stadium. I really can't put my finger on the exact root of the attendance issue.

  Winning and being in a pennant race should be enough to get fans to come but sometimes it isnt. I think if the reds were in the same boat right now they would have poor attendance as well. Ya have to market it as the thing to do, as the exciting place to be, stuff like that. Unfortunately baseball, as a game, isnt the draw it used to be for many people. In cincy the crowds get the loudest when they strike out 11 and get free pizza.
• TBone14

  

  thavoice;1650183 wrote:Winning and being in a pennant race should be enough to get fans to come but sometimes it isnt. I think if the reds were in the same boat right now they would have poor attendance as well. Ya have to market it as the thing to do, as the exciting place to be, stuff like that. Unfortunately baseball, as a game, isnt the draw it used to be for many people. In cincy the crowds get the loudest when they strike out 11 and get free pizza.

  You are correct on that. Attendance across the board is down. The Royals were having similar issues to the point where the manager called out the fans publicly. I don't think anyone is expecting them to pack in 30-40k during the week but 9k is just awful.
  
  The fans leave quick when things are going bad and are slow to buy back in when things start to get better.
• vball10set

  Ironman92;1650114 wrote:Why is the attendance so low?

  
  It's football season, and the Tribe being "in contention" just ain't good enough...sorry, jmo.
• Mulva

  

  I prefer to think people are just taking Mark Shapiro's advice.
• iclfan2

  

  Slamtana opens the door, 2-0 tribe
• Ironman92

  

  iclfan2;1650227 wrote:Slamtana opens the door, 2-0 tribe

  After that he'll add to his MLB BB lead
• TBone14

  

  Good start for the boys. Haven't gotten a great look at the crowd yet. Are we topping 10K today?
  
  Edit: Just got one. Maybe deceiving but looks like less than last night.
• Footwedge

  Premature to stick a fork in em for sure. Hold on today and tribe will have a shot at going 5-2 on this crucial stretch. Tribe is actually a game better than the standings show with the suspended game. Last night was brutal but we won a game like that Saturday and probably will win the suspended game...a game we should have lost. Hopefully Kluber and Allen can shake their mini slumps soon.
• HitsRus

  

  Salazar is slinging some pretty nasty stuff tonite .
• TBone14

  

  HitsRus;1650238 wrote:Salazar is slinging some pretty nasty stuff tonite .

  Indeed he is.
  
  Verlander looks very ordinary again. It doesn't help that they won't take him out...ever. He Had no business coming out for the 7th. Cost him 2 more runs. Should have been 6 innings 4 runs and it is 6.2 and 6 runs.
  
  
  Edit: 7 runs. Ramirez was his run. 86 RBI for Brantley.
• TBone14

  

  Big Lon batting .450 over the last 10 games. Gomes nearly .400 since coming off the DL.
• TBone14

  

  Alright Danny. Finish this one off.
• HitsRus

  

  Salazar trying for his first complete game...1 out ... 111 pitches.