2014-2015 NBA Off Season, Draft, Free Agency

• robj55

  

  Azubuike24;1630782 wrote:You just compared Deshaun Thomas to Andrew Wiggins. Time to move on to another subject...

  Nope, I asked what did he shoot from the field when Thomas was called a shot jacked to get 20 points and he shot the same as a more athletic Wiggins did from the field.
• KB0938

  robj55;1630778 wrote:He shot 45 %, what did number one pick Wiggins shoot who is a ten times better athlete? The NBA is full of tweeners, might want to open your eyes.

  Wiggins plays defense, has a huge upside and is of ideal size for an NBA wing. 3 things that Deshaun doesnt have
  
  And you've told me multiple times that Melo is a shot jacker....well guess what? He shot 46% for this year and his career. So now 45% is good when its Thomas?
• Lovejoy1984

  

  robj55;1630783 wrote:That would be crazy, they would have no frontline under contract at all, maybe bring back Oden, move Lebron to the 4. I have no idea what Riley is doing but never doubt him lol

  If Bosh opts out an leaves, I don't think LeBron returns.
  
  LeBron, Wade, Napier, and Lowry is not a good team, like at all.
• Azubuike24

  

  Definitely liked the Anderson to Spurs fit. His weaknesses will be hidden decently there and he can contribute immediately. He and Diaw, very similar players.
• robj55

  

  KB0938;1630786 wrote:Wiggins plays defense, has a huge upside and is of ideal size for an NBA wing. 3 things that Deshaun doesnt have
  
  And you've told me multiple times that Melo is a shot jacker....well guess what? He shot 46% for this year and his career. So now 45% is good when its Thomas?

  None of that has anything to do with being a shot jacker, is Wiggins a shot jacker too since he averaged less points and shot the same percentage.
• robj55

  

  HighRoller74;1630787 wrote:If Bosh opts out an leaves, I don't think LeBron returns.
  
  LeBron, Wade, Napier, and Lowry is not a good team, like at all.

  Lebron to play center ? lol
• Lovejoy1984

  

  robj55;1630790 wrote:Lebron to play center ? lol

  Probably Bring back Oden, Birdman, and Haslem.
  
  But how in any shape or form, can anyone think LBJ or any good player would sign up for that. That team probably isn't any better than some of the Cavs teams LeBron had.
• KB0938

  Wiggins shot 4 times less a game than Thomas and didnt force 1/2 the shots Deshaun did. Thomas is probably a better shooter than Wiggins, at this point, ill give you that. But you watched Deshaun play, how many times did you think to yourself, god why did he force that up? Thats why I called him a shot jacker.
  
  Why the fuck are we even talking about this bum anyways lol
• robj55

  

  HighRoller74;1630792 wrote:Probably Bring back Oden, Birdman, and Haslem.
  
  But how in any shape or form, can anyone think LBJ or any good player would sign up for that. That team probably isn't any better than some of the Cavs teams LeBron had.

  If that deal would happen they would have to go after Melo or someone else big named you would think, you could possibly slide Lebron to the 4 and let Melo play the 3.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  robj55;1630797 wrote:If that deal would happen they would have to go after Melo or someone else big named you would think, you could possibly slide Lebron to the 4 and let Melo play the 3.

  Really wouldn't have the Cap space to make a move, unless Lowry, Bron, Wade, Anthony all took small contracts.
• robj55

  

  KB0938;1630793 wrote:Wiggins shot 4 times less a game than Thomas and didnt force 1/2 the shots Deshaun did. Thomas is probably a better shooter than Wiggins, at this point, ill give you that. But you watched Deshaun play, how many times did you think to yourself, god why did he force that up? Thats why I called him a shot jacker.
  
  Why the fuck are we even talking about this bum anyways lol

  Because his last year there no one else could score lol Unless you think you can count on Aaron Craft offensively. Ross didn't emerge until the tourney. That "bum" is making a shit ton of money overseas, hardly anything bummy about money like that. We live in a world of hate, everyone loves to hate.
• robj55

  

  HighRoller74;1630799 wrote:Really wouldn't have the Cap space to make a move, unless Lowry, Bron, Wade, Anthony all took small contracts.

  Yeah they might be F'd unless they all take wayyyy less money. I know they only have a few guys under contract, Norris Cole, Wade and Bosh as of right now I believe lol.
• robj55

  

  I wouldn't give up on Oden if I were them. Sign him to another cheap deal and that gives him another year to get comfortable and in better shape. I thought he played pretty well in spot minutes for them. If he could start and play 20-25 mpg and give them 10 and 8 with a block that would be huge. Still too young to give up on.
• Mulva

  

  I like the Payton, Saric, and Harris picks. Overall, looking at that first round, my main thought is that this draft class was overrated as hell.
• robj55

  

  Mulva;1630804 wrote:I like the Payton, Saric, and Harris picks. Overall, looking at that first round, my main thought is that this draft class was overrated as hell.

  Hard to judge a draft right away, no one knows how these guys will turn out.
• KB0938

  Mulva;1630804 wrote:I like the Payton, Saric, and Harris picks. Overall, looking at that first round, my main thought is that this draft class was overrated as hell.

  How can you tell if its overrated before any of them set foot on an NBA court? lol
• wildcats20

  

  Norris Cole would be part of that Toronto/Miami deal btw.
• Azubuike24

  

  Overhyped is a better word than overrated. Only because those following HS recruiting and college closely have hyped this class for 3+ years as being incredible.
• robj55

  

  wildcats20;1630808 wrote:Norris Cole would be part of that Toronto/Miami deal btw.

  Sucks for Norris because if he had played much better in the playoffs while Chalmers was struggling he may have been the starter next year.
• robj55

  

  Azubuike24;1630810 wrote:Overhyped is a better word than overrated. Only because those following HS recruiting and college closely have hyped this class for 3+ years as being incredible.

  fucking AAU.
• wildcats20

  

  robj55;1630811 wrote:Sucks for Norris because if he had played much better in the playoffs while Chalmers was struggling he may have been the starter next year.

  Yeah Cole isn't nearly as bad as some make him out to be. He's obviously nothing special, but you don't need anything more than a just above average PG in Miami.
• Mulva

  

  KB0938;1630807 wrote:How can you tell if its overrated before any of them set foot on an NBA court? lol

  Probably the same way you can judge that Napier is a major upgrade over Chalmers before he sets foot on an NBA court. Or that McDermott is going to be a b b b b bustttt.
• Terry_Tate

  

  How is Cleanthony Early still available?
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Cavs drafted Joe Harris.
  
  Not too bad, would've liked GR3 or Early. But he's a good shooter.
• KB0938

  Cleanthony is STILL on the damn board