2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread
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Mulva
I'm in the same range as everyone else. I expect growing pains if Johnny is the guy, probably 6 wins. With Hoyer, I'd expect 8 or 9.
But... I think things will set up real nice if they can get into the bye at 2-1. That stretch from week 5 really all the way to 13 is about as easy as you could ask for. -
Commander of Awesome
I expect us to be a top 26 team. -
IggyPride00
8-9 wins for this team would feel like the freaking Super Bowl for the fan base after the amount of 10+ loss seasons we've had.
8-8/9-7 with Hoyer is our ceiling, but is just enough the fans would revolt at the end of the season if he wasn't brought back.
This is Anderson/Quinn all over again and our Goldberg impersonator of a head coach doesn't even realize the drama he is personally stoking that will ruin the future of this football team.
Hoyer is our Derek Anderson, and Johnny's career will be ruined just like Quinn's' was. -
vball10set^^^out on bail?
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SportsAndLady
Quinn's career was ruined by himself because he sucked at football.IggyPride00;1641914 wrote:8-9 wins for this team would feel like the freaking Super Bowl for the fan base after the amount of 10+ loss seasons we've had.
8-8/9-7 with Hoyer is our ceiling, but is just enough the fans would revolt at the end of the season if he wasn't brought back.
This is Anderson/Quinn all over again and our Goldberg impersonator of a head coach doesn't even realize the drama he is personally stoking that will ruin the future of this football team.
Hoyer is our Derek Anderson, and Johnny's career will be ruined just like Quinn's' was.
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Lovejoy1984
I was going to, but then I thought why bother.SportsAndLady;1641919 wrote:Quinn's career was ruined by himself because he sucked at football.
Honestly don't even know why I respond to you. -
Footwedge
Listen up shit for brains. My bet was this...and always was this. Manziel will start in game 5 against Pittsburgh in Cleveland. You want a piece of that or don't you? And since it's my bet, I set the rules. The money gets sent in up front from you and me to a third party. None of this shit.. "oh, I'll pay you if I lose" shit that Dorky was trying to pull.You've got only a few days to get it down. Move fat boy.BR1986FB;1641776 wrote:Why would anyone on this board take you seriously in a "wager?" You're all over the place. At first it's "Manziel will start in week 1" and now it's "It ain't gonna be the journeyman, undrafted free agent from St. Ignatius for very long. Trust me. Care to make a wager?" -
DeyDurkie5
Actually it was game 4 dumbfuck. And just so I can prove you wrong, I'll take your original bet of game 4 and I'll give it to a 3rd party. Balls in your courtFootwedge;1641950 wrote:Listen up shit for brains. My bet was this...and always was this. Manziel will start in game 5 against Pittsburgh in Cleveland. You want a piece of that or don't you? And since it's my bet, I set the rules. The money gets sent in up front from you and me to a third party. None of this shit.. "oh, I'll pay you if I lose" shit that Dorky was trying to pull.You've got only a few days to get it down. Move fat boy. -
DeyDurkie5
And footwedge doesn't respond. Like we have all said, *****
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BR1986FB
"Fat boy?" LOL...you really don't know me, gramps.Footwedge;1641950 wrote:Listen up shit for brains. My bet was this...and always was this. Manziel will start in game 5 against Pittsburgh in Cleveland. You want a piece of that or don't you? And since it's my bet, I set the rules. The money gets sent in up front from you and me to a third party. None of this shit.. "oh, I'll pay you if I lose" shit that Dorky was trying to pull.You've got only a few days to get it down. Move fat boy. -
BR1986FB
He's too busy taking turns letting JFF teabag him and Chuck Booms.DeyDurkie5;1641978 wrote:And footwedge doesn't respond. Like we have all said, ***** -
Dr. KnOiTaLL
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BR1986FB^^^ somehow my boss got an invite to today's camp, which is closed to the public, and he texted a coworker saying that Lebron was at Browns camp.
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shook_17
Watch Manziel get hurt playing with the twos saturday -
BR1986FBSo my boss returned from the closed session training camp and the two things he took away were that Gordon & Phil Taylor are physical freaks and that Lebron has lost A LOT of weight. Not a big secret on either of those things.
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Dr. KnOiTaLL
Not surprised at all by this. We see a lot of older players starting to do this in order to limit the pounding they put on their bodies. Tim Duncan is a perfect example of this, and you see it very often among NFL RB's as well. This should definitely be a sign that LeBron is going back to playing the 3, and not having to defend many PF's anymore. Anyways, wrong thread for all of this I guess :RpS_flapper:BR1986FB;1642232 wrote:So my boss returned from the closed session training camp and the two things he took away were that Gordon & Phil Taylor are physical freaks and that Lebron has lost A LOT of weight. Not a big secret on either of those things. -
BR1986FBOh yeah, he did say a third, and not so encouraging thing, the QB's looked absolutely brutal. Said Hoyer threw two picks in the red zone and JFF looked terrible.
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IggyPride00
Not surprising. Johnny is a gamer, and doesn't worry about practice. He's the type that will show up on Sunday's no matter how shitty he looked during the week.BR1986FB;1642238 wrote:Said Hoyer threw two picks in the red zone and JFF looked terrible. -
like_that
Why is said ever on this thread?said;1642250 wrote:http://www.oldnews.com/ -
BR1986FB
Sounds vaguely familiar. You forgot, "he has moxie" and "all he does is wins." That also was the description of Colt McCoy.IggyPride00;1642251 wrote: Johnny is a gamer
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BR1986FB
Because there's no "nude photos of high school wrestlers" forum?like_that;1642253 wrote:Why is said ever on this thread? -
vball10set
Yeah, that's just what we need, an Alan Iverson wannabe...nice :rolleyes:IggyPride00;1642251 wrote:Not surprising. Johnny is a gamer, and doesn't worry about practice. He's the type that will show up on Sunday's no matter how shitty he looked during the week. -
Heretic
Not the biggest surprise, really. I think the thing about the QB race, IMO, is that it's between two guys who can be "trap" guys for fans.BR1986FB;1642238 wrote:Oh yeah, he did say a third, and not so encouraging thing, the QB's looked absolutely brutal. Said Hoyer threw two picks in the red zone and JFF looked terrible.
First, with Hoyer, you have the no-name journeyman type who was a super-sub last year, giving you the best play of any options and, until he went down to injury, was keeping you in contention for .500 or better. But it seems so commonplace for guys like that to completely flop as a starter. Like when during the Couch-Holcomb wars when Holcomb led you into the playoffs against the Steelers and seemed to have no trouble putting up 300+ (definitely didn't against Pittsburgh, at least). And then became the starter and utterly sucked the next year with a lot of those 13-25, 120, 1-2 sort of games.
Then, with JFF, you have the hotshot rookie with a lot of potential. Which is great and all, but doesn't win games early on when he's trying to find the ropes, especially when not in an ideal "ball manager/hand the ball off" situation. I mean, it's great comedic stuff and all to see Foot and Iqqy constantly singing his praises, calling him a future top-of-the-line HoFer and acting like every second he isn't the locked-down starter for life is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of humanity, but man, it takes patience, especially when they aren't walking into a tailor-made ideal situation. Which could be even less ideal depending on how the whole Gordon thing gets settled, assuming it ever does, since I didn't think it was possible for something to take longer for a judgement to be rendered. -
IggyPride00
Hoyer is Holcomb reincarnate. If he was from bumfuck Texas instead of Cleveland most of this fan base wouldn't give a shit about him and Johnny would be starting like he should be. The guy is just ruining everything, and his butt boy Goldberg is facilitating it for him for some God forsaken reason.Heretic;1642258 wrote:Not the biggest surprise, really. I think the thing about the QB race, IMO, is that it's between two guys who can be "trap" guys for fans. First, with Hoyer, you have the no-name journeyman type who was a super-sub last year, giving you the best play of any options and, until he went down to injury, was keeping you in contention for .500 or better. But it seems so commonplace for guys like that to completely flop as a starter. Like when during the Couch-Holcomb wars when Holcomb led you into the playoffs against the Steelers and seemed to have no trouble putting up 300+ (definitely didn't against Pittsburgh, at least). And then became the starter and utterly sucked the next year with a lot of those 13-25, 120, 1-2 sort of games. Then, with JFF, you have the hotshot rookie with a lot of potential. Which is great and all, but doesn't win games early on when he's trying to find the ropes, especially when not in an ideal "ball manager/hand the ball off" situation. I mean, it's great comedic stuff and all to see Foot and Iqqy constantly singing his praises, calling him a future top-of-the-line HoFer and acting like every second he isn't the locked-down starter for life is the worst thing that's ever happened in the history of humanity, but man, it takes patience, especially when they aren't walking into a tailor-made ideal situation. Which could be even less ideal depending on how the whole Gordon thing gets settled, assuming it ever does, since I didn't think it was possible for something to take longer for a judgement to be rendered.
