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2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

  • jmog
    BR1986FB;1641694 wrote:
    As far as Josh Gordon goes, the recent speculation is best case scenario being 8 games.
    To go along with that....

    http://dawgpounddaily.com/2014/08/06/browns-preparing-8-game-minimum-josh-gordon-ban/
  • SportsAndLady
    Jesus, footwedge shut the fuck up. Both hoyer and manziel are browns, you should be rooting for both of them to be having great camps, because we want both of them to be good.

    Just let it play out, this coaching staff isn't playing "favorites" they're going to be playing who they think is best. So STFU about arguing who is having the better camp in week 1 of training camp.
  • SportsAndLady
    Is that a Mary Kay report? I'll pass on believing anything she puts out
  • Mulva
    What's everyone feeling in terms of wins this year?
  • SportsAndLady
    Mulva;1641705 wrote:What's everyone feeling in terms of wins this year?
    7-9 wins. 9 if good QB play, 7 if not good QB play.
  • Rotinaj
    We have such an easy schedule, if they cant win 10 games with good QB play we are further away than I thought. With that schedule, barring mass injuries, less than 7 wins is a gigantic failure of a season.
  • Heretic
    THINGS I HAVE LEARNED: Footwedge might be the only person on this site who looks at early pre-season depth charts and takes them particularly seriously.
  • SportsAndLady
    Rotinaj;1641709 wrote:We have such an easy schedule, if they cant win 10 games with good QB play we are further away than I thought. With that schedule, barring mass injuries, less than 7 wins is a gigantic failure of a season.
    We won't know how good or bad the schedule is until after the season is over.
  • BR1986FB
    SportsAndLady;1641699 wrote:Jesus, footwedge shut the fuck up. Both hoyer and manziel are browns, you should be rooting for both of them to be having great camps, because we want both of them to be good.

    Just let it play out, this coaching staff isn't playing "favorites" they're going to be playing who they think is best. So STFU about arguing who is having the better camp in week 1 of training camp.
    And this is what pisses me off. There are seriously JFF fanboys who are rooting against Hoyer, hoping he sucks, breaks a leg, etc. Periodically, I will tune in to 92.3 on my morning commute hoping they have a national guest on there. Chuck Booms is so hard on JFF's jock that he's probably flossing with his pubes. He genuinely wants Hoyer to fail.

    I just want good QB play and from what I see, right now, I'm skeptical we're going to get it. Both of these guys have a LONG way to go. I know it's training camp/preseason but none of them look NFL ready.
  • thavoice
    SportsAndLady;1641713 wrote:We won't know how good or bad the schedule is until after the season is over.
    Always laugh when people complain or talk about the schedule like this. 14 of the 16 games of teams in your division have the same schedule! I got into it with a browns fan a number of years ago how were crying how the opposing records from the previous season was much tougher than the steelers. Well, it was, but that was because the browns were playing the steelers who were like 11-5 and ravens who were about the same record and the steelers were playing the4-12 browns.

    It is all about when you play someone. You can run into a good team when they are struggling a bit, or a bad team who starts to play well. Doesnt matter...NFL schedule is as about as fair as possible when you compare teams in a division.
  • Footwedge
    Heretic;1641710 wrote:THINGS I HAVE LEARNED: Footwedge might be the only person on this site who looks at early pre-season depth charts and takes them particularly seriously.
    Obviously your learning ability sucks. What I said was that Pettine's placing the number ones second on the depth chart shows that he is joking...and that the depth chart does in fact mean nothing in preseason. Try to keep up.
  • Footwedge
    BR1986FB;1641726 wrote:And this is what pisses me off. There are seriously JFF fanboys who are rooting against Hoyer, hoping he sucks, breaks a leg, etc. Periodically, I will tune in to 92.3 on my morning commute hoping they have a national guest on there. Chuck Booms is so hard on JFF's jock that he's probably flossing with his pubes. He genuinely wants Hoyer to fail.

    I just want good QB play and from what I see, right now, I'm skeptical we're going to get it. Both of these guys have a LONG way to go. I know it's training camp/preseason but none of them look NFL ready.
    Has absolutely nothing to do with rooting against Hoyer. Nice spin. What it means is what it is. Manziel's talent far exceeds that of Hoyer. Nothing against him personally. He's simply not very good. The guy ranks anywhere from 25 to 28 in the power ratings for quarterbacks. That seems about right.

    I have a lot of faith on Pettine and Shanahan. They will play the best player..it's that fucking simple. It ain't gonna be the journeyman, undrafted free agent from St. Ignatius for very long. Trust me. Care to make a wager? LOL. I didn't think so.
  • Footwedge
    Mulva;1641705 wrote:What's everyone feeling in terms of wins this year?
    9-7. Maybe better...depends on injuries and the Gordon suspension. Already loaded up on over 6.5 wins for the season but was juiced at 7-5.
  • BR1986FB
    Footwedge;1641766 wrote: It ain't gonna be the journeyman, undrafted free agent from St. Ignatius for very long. Trust me. Care to make a wager? LOL. I didn't think so.
    Why would anyone on this board take you seriously in a "wager?" You're all over the place. At first it's "Manziel will start in week 1" and now it's "It ain't gonna be the journeyman, undrafted free agent from St. Ignatius for very long. Trust me. Care to make a wager?"
  • BR1986FB
    Mulva;1641705 wrote:What's everyone feeling in terms of wins this year?
    7-9

    Defense is going to be REALLY good and I'd bet they have a top 5-8 running game but QB will hold them back again.
  • vball10set
    I'm going to sit on the fence at 8-8.
  • sleeper
    We better win 10 games. If we do not win 10 games, fire the coach and the GM.
  • thavoice
    WIth Gordon I think they can get to 9+wins.
    WIthout him I think they are 6-7 wins.
  • BR1986FB
    sleeper;1641787 wrote:If we do not win 10 games, fire the coach and the GM.
    Yeah, because doing that has been such a successful recipe for this franchise.
  • sleeper
    BR1986FB;1641790 wrote:Yeah, because doing that has been such a successful recipe for this franchise.
    : thumbup:
  • Sonofanump
    Heretic;1641710 wrote:THINGS I HAVE LEARNED: Footwedge might be the only person on this site who looks at early pre-season depth charts and takes them particularly seriously.
    Reading this thread is so much easier with Failwedge on ignore.
  • DeyDurkie5
    BR1986FB;1641776 wrote:Why would anyone on this board take you seriously in a "wager?" You're all over the place. At first it's "Manziel will start in week 1" and now it's "It ain't gonna be the journeyman, undrafted free agent from St. Ignatius for very long. Trust me. Care to make a wager?"
    Don't even bother. He's a ***** who will just make excuses when it actually comes down to it.
  • BR1986FB
    Browns actually have better Vegas odds to win a championship than the Bengals & Ravens.....

    https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10557316_765383666833815_2549769522827615968_n.jpg?oh=eda00a8eb314121b9ec738d14ca26256&oe=5454640C
  • lhslep134
    Sonofanump;1641804 wrote:Reading every thread is so much easier with Failwedge on ignore.
    FIFY and reps
  • thavoice
    BR1986FB;1641812 wrote:Browns actually have better Vegas odds to win a championship than the Bengals & Ravens.....

    https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10557316_765383666833815_2549769522827615968_n.jpg?oh=eda00a8eb314121b9ec738d14ca26256&oe=5454640C
    I have a hard time believing that one! Based on the JM hype maybe?