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2013/14 NBA season chatter - let the LBJ hating begin!

  • Azubuike24
    Nevermind, went for the 2...took a bit too much time.
  • Commander of Awesome
    The west is awesome. Wish conferences would go away.
  • Ironman92
    VC walked.
  • wildcats20
    Ironman92;1609668 wrote:VC walked.
    Big time
  • Azubuike24
    Shawn Marion, currently about 18,000 points and just shy of 10,000 rebounds. 35-years old. HOF if he gets to 20K and 11K?

    Only 19 others in history have done it...
  • Ironman92
    Azubuike24;1609677 wrote:Shawn Marion, currently about 18,000 points and just shy of 10,000 rebounds. 35-years old. HOF if he gets to 20K and 11K?

    Only 19 others in history have done it...
    I don't believe he will make it and no anyways.

    But a very good career.
  • Pick6
    i've kind of enjoyed watching the Wiz in the playoffs thus far. Great mix of young talent and experienced Vets.

    I think I'd take Wall over Kyrie. Kyrie obviously the better scoring talent, but that's where it ends IMO. Defense, passing, heart, hustle, leadership all goes to Wall.
  • Azubuike24
    Wiz can beat Indiana or Atlanta too.
  • friendfromlowry
    I've really enjoyed the playoffs. I don't watch much during the regular season but I've watched as much of the playoffs as possible. The Blazers and Wizards have been fun to watch, and some of the lower-seeded teams like the Pacers, Spurs, and Thunder are getting all they can handle.

    Miami - Brooklyn and Washington - Indiana would be great second round match-ups
  • Pick6
    Today I learned Charles Barkley is a lot more sensible than the race baiter Jalen Rose
  • like_that
    Pick6;1609827 wrote:Today I learned Charles Barkley is a lot more sensible than the race baiter Jalen Rose
    What did he say?
  • robj55
    These playoffs have been great so far, no real clear cut favorite.
  • friendfromlowry
    I forget who on Twitter I follow (Vitale or J.A. Adande maybe) that was kind of retorting how Jalen Rose suggested the Clippers forfeit tonight's game to spite Sterling. I understand not wanting to win any more success for the guy, but at the same time the players have worked for months/years to get to this point. They only get so many chances to make a playoff run.
  • Pick6
    friendfromlowry;1609851 wrote:I forget who on Twitter I follow (Vitale or J.A. Adande maybe) that was kind of retorting how Jalen Rose suggested the Clippers forfeit tonight's game to spite Sterling. I understand not wanting to win any more success for the guy, but at the same time the players have worked for months/years to get to this point. They only get so many chances to make a playoff run.
    like_that- see this. It wasn't so much as what Charles said, it was the shit Rose was spewing on the pregame show. Charles had a much less radical opinion saying pretty much just to play the game. That crap doesn't really matter and nobody plays for the owner anyways. They play for themselves, the coach, and the fan base.

    To me, Jalen just confirmed what I got a glimpse of in Fab 5 in how much he cares about race (see- Grant Hill- Uncle Tom). Jalen cares too much about off the court bs, which probably explains why he never won anything at the collegiate or professional level while having exceptional talent around him.
  • robj55
    I hate the whole race thing but I especially hate how people think it only goes one way, tired of people playing that card.
  • like_that
    robj55;1609863 wrote:I hate the whole race thing but I especially hate how people think it only goes one way, tired of people playing that card.
    This, but I don't want to turn this thread into a race shit show.
  • robj55
    like_that;1609872 wrote:This, but I don't want to turn this thread into a race shit show.
    Yeah I may have opened pandora's box lol
  • KB0938
    Deron Williams went from being an elite pg, to barely mediocre seemingly overnight
  • robj55
    KB0938;1609874 wrote:Deron Williams went from being an elite pg, to barely mediocre seemingly overnight
    Still elite imo, had a down year do to injuries and the fact that he has to share the ball with so many weapons. I think he only took like 11 shots a game this year, that's not very many. Shooting percentages were on par with his career averages.
  • robj55
    Toronto with a tremendous defensive possession, great job on the pick and roll/pop.
  • KB0938
    robj55;1609880 wrote:Still elite imo, had a down year do to injuries and the fact that he has to share the ball with so many weapons. I think he only took like 11 shots a game this year, that's not very many. Shooting percentages were on par with his career averages.
    Idk if id still consider him elite. Id take Lillard, Paul, Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, Parker, Irving, Wall, Curry, Conley all over him. When healthy of course for all. Hed be in the next grouping now IMO with like Lawson, Rubio, Lowry, Felton, Jennings, ect, obviously towards the top of all of them but def with those players over the ones i listed above
  • robj55
    KB0938;1609891 wrote:Idk if id still consider him elite. Id take Lillard, Paul, Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, Parker, Irving, Wall, Curry, Conley all over him. When healthy of course for all. Hed be in the next grouping now IMO with like Lawson, Rubio, Lowry, Felton, Jennings, ect, obviously towards the top of all of them but def with those players over the ones i listed above

    Hard to say really, all of them have flaws really. Kyrie and Curry play no D, neither does Westbrook really. Rondo can't shoot consistently. Conley has ascended but no way he is better than DWill yet. Lillard is great offensively but little to no D. Tony Parker has always been the most underrated PG imo, and Chris Paul is probably the most complete. When healthy DWill has been neck and neck with Chris Paul throughout their careers, and he normally gets the best of him when they match up head to head. I didn't bring up Rose because he is irrelevant and probably done.
  • KB0938
    Dwill isnt exactly known for his defense either though, at all. Rondo and Conley cant shoot better than Williams at all, but theyre just as skilled at passing and play way better defense. Only player I might put em over on that list is Wall because hes so up and down and idk if this year is him maturing, or if its just a freak occurrence.
  • KB0938
    Paul no doubt is #1 though, most complete on the list. Aside from size
  • SportsAndLady
    robj55;1609894 wrote:Hard to say really, all of them have flaws really. Kyrie and Curry play no D, neither does Westbrook really. Rondo can't shoot consistently. Conley has ascended but no way he is better than DWill yet. Lillard is great offensively but little to no D. Tony Parker has always been the most underrated PG imo, and Chris Paul is probably the most complete. When healthy DWill has been neck and neck with Chris Paul throughout their careers, and he normally gets the best of him when they match up head to head. I didn't bring up Rose because he is irrelevant and probably done.
    Deron Williams sucks dude