Is Flacco "Elite"?
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Footwedge
Joe Flacco is still a pig.Rotinaj;1382423 wrote:Flacco had the 25th best QBR this season(pretty sure I heard that right) nope sorry that doesn't make him elite. He had one of the best playoff runs ever but that doesn't make him elite. -
Azubuike24I mean Rodgers, Brady and Brees are clearly top 5...regardless of your preference. It's foolish to say otherwise. The other 2 spots you can go many directions depending on preference.
If you're ranking them RIGHT NOW, it's hard to say Flacco, despite winning a Super Bowl.
If you're ranking them for career accomplishments, Ben, Eli and Peyton are the other 3 choices for top 5, clearly. -
RotinajMerrill is the dumbest fucking fuck on espn regarding the nfl.
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MulvaIf Eli is elite, Flacco is too. But neither of them are.
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Azubuike24I agree, although I'm an Eli fan.
I just find it hilarious that because Flacco is the flavor of the week, he's #1 overall and Eli, with 2 rings, wouldn't be in his top 5. -
BoatShoesThere's just a lot of damn good quarterback play in the NFL today. Kaepernick and Flocco were on the money most of the game making big time throws all over the field.
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Fly4Fun
This, and I'm pretty sure you could have thrown another fuck in that sentence for good measure.Rotinaj;1382562 wrote:Merrill is the dumbest fucking fuck on espn regarding the nfl.
I think some people are starting to make the "elite QB list" too big therefore voiding the whole list.
Flacco had a great post-season run, but I want to see some consistency out of him.
When I think of elite QB's I think it's Brady, Peyton, Rodgers and Brees.
I give Brees a pass this year because of the suspension. Eli Manning isn't elite as he just misses the playoffs too often. For everyone that wants to knock Peyton for his mediocre at best play-off record, at least he is pretty much a lock to be there unlike his little brother.
Rodgers is just disgustingly good the past few seasons.
I don't think Big Ben is an elite QB, I put him in just above Eli. I think Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are about even, possibly elite someday, but a solid no for right now.
Kaepernick, I want to see more out of him before declaring elite, same with other guys like Wilson, RGIII and Luck. Those four all have bright futures if they can stay healthy and continue to progress. -
Pick6Flacco has won in the playoffs EVERY SINGLE YEAR he has been in the league. Ill take him over the bum Manning. Throw for as many yards and TDs as you want. I want a QB who doesnt choke during the clutch and wins when it really matters. And plz nobody say the defense carried Flacco. Baltimore ranked #17 in total defense this year.
Big Ben and Eli are not elite. -
FootwedgeIf the Denver safety intercepts Flacco's Hail Mary the way 99.9% of safeties would do on that wounded duck, there wouldn't be these nonsensical threads.
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cat_loverI can't put him in the top 4. I have no problem putting him in the 5 to 8 group.
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Pick6
And if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.Footwedge;1382603 wrote:If the Denver safety intercepts Flacco's Hail Mary the way 99.9% of safeties would do on that wounded duck, there wouldn't be these nonsensical threads.
Speaking of nonsensical threads, how about your Breowns and playoffs HOFer? -
Rotinaj
Are you saying Eli and Ben aren't clutch and don't win when it matters?Pick6;1382598 wrote:Flacco has won in the playoffs EVERY SINGLE YEAR he has been in the league. Ill take him over the bum Manning. Throw for as many yards and TDs as you want. I want a QB who doesnt choke during the clutch and wins when it really matters. And plz nobody say the defense carried Flacco. Baltimore ranked #17 in total defense this year.
Big Ben and Eli are not elite. -
SonofanumpEpic lulz on this thread.
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Pick6
Im not sure, didnt get a chance to watch them in the playoffs this post season.Rotinaj;1382628 wrote:Are you saying Eli and Ben aren't clutch and don't win when it matters? -
rydawg5I avoid sports talk radio, so my opinion is not an extension of my favorite radio host.
Here is my order in which I'd pick for 1 season to play on my team (2014)
1) Manning
2) Brady
3) Brees
4) Rogers
5) Big Ben
6) RG III
7) Russell Wilson
8) Tony Romo
9) Eli Manning
10) Matt Ryan
11) Joe Flacco
12) Jay Cutler
13) Andrew Luck
14) Matthew Stafford
15) Colin Kapernick
16) Matt Shaub
17) Cam Newton
18) Andy Dalton
19) Michael Vick
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Rotinaj
Lol. Flacco has a 0% chance to win more superbowls than either of them and odds are he won't even win one more.Pick6;1382642 wrote:Im not sure, didnt get a chance to watch them in the playoffs this post season. -
Pick6
Thanks for the input, Nostradamus. I never claimed either. Glad you know the future, though.Rotinaj;1382652 wrote:Lol. Flacco has a 0% chance to win more superbowls than either of them and odds are he won't even win one more. -
Fly4Fun
How the hell is Romo so high on your list?rydawg5;1382651 wrote:I avoid sports talk radio, so my opinion is not an extension of my favorite radio host.
Here is my order in which I'd pick for 1 season to play on my team (2014)
1) Manning
2) Brady
3) Brees
4) Rogers
5) Big Ben
6) RG III
7) Russell Wilson
8) Tony Romo
9) Eli Manning
10) Matt Ryan
11) Joe Flacco
12) Jay Cutler
13) Andrew Luck
14) Matthew Stafford
15) Colin Kapernick
16) Matt Shaub
17) Cam Newton
18) Andy Dalton
19) Michael Vick
The rest are terrible.
QB's I'd take ahead of Romo:
Brady
Rodgers
Manning (Peyton)
Brees
Manning (Eli)
Big Ben
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Matt Schaub
And I'd take Andy Dalton, Kaepernick, WIlson, RGIII, Luck and Stafford ahead of him as well just because they are younger and have more upside.
I'd put Rivers, Romo and Cutler in the same category. -
Mulva
Flacco already has more playoff wins than Eli in his career. 0% is a pretty low number.Rotinaj;1382652 wrote:Lol. Flacco has a 0% chance to win more superbowls than either of them and odds are he won't even win one more. -
rydawg5
I can't put my finger exactly on what it is I like so much about Romo. I just think he is very talented.Fly4Fun;1382657 wrote:How the hell is Romo so high on your list?
QB's I'd take ahead of Romo:
Brady
Rodgers
Manning (Peyton)
Brees
Manning (Eli)
Big Ben
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Matt Schaub
And I'd take Andy Dalton, Kaepernick, WIlson, RGIII, Luck and Stafford ahead of him as well just because they are younger and have more upside.
I'd put Rivers, Romo and Cutler in the same category. -
SonofanumpI was going to reply with retorts, but decided to post a list instead.
- Brady -Elite
- Rogers -Elite
- Brees -Elite
- P Manning – Age is only drawback
- Matt Ryan – Not sure if plateaued
- Eli Manning - Inconsistent
- Andrew Luck – Real Deal
- Matt Shaub – Gets it done
- Joe Flacco – Career post season
- Rapeburger – Age, Mobility with injuries
- Russell Wilson - Impressive
- RG3 – Could see playing less than 8 games next year
- Tony Romo – Big stats, big mistakes
- Phil Rivers – Whines a lot
- Matthew Stafford – average starter
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HitsRusI'll take Flacco anyday. The dude is a winner.
Luck...lol....talk to me when he wins the AFC championship game. He'll get there someday I think....but now?
might be a case of diminishing skills for Peyton....he made some pretty piss poor decisions in the division game.
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Rotinaj
Eli has 2 superbowls. And yes, the ravens have a 0% of winning 2 more. Won't happen.Mulva;1382661 wrote:Flacco already has more playoff wins than Eli in his career. 0% is a pretty low number. -
bigdaddy2003
There are too many if's in this sentence.Footwedge;1382603 wrote:If the Denver safety intercepts Flacco's Hail Mary the way 99.9% of safeties would do on that wounded duck, there wouldn't be these nonsensical threads.
You're on fire in this thread. I wish I could send you more reps.Pick6;1382606 wrote:And if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.
Speaking of nonsensical threads, how about your Breowns and playoffs HOFer?
How do you figure it's 0 percent?Rotinaj;1382794 wrote:Eli has 2 superbowls. And yes, the ravens have a 0% of winning 2 more. Won't happen. -
sportswizuhrd
If Lee Evans makes the catch in last years conference title game, there is a chance that the Ravens are back to back SB champs...Footwedge;1382603 wrote:If the Denver safety intercepts Flacco's Hail Mary the way 99.9% of safeties would do on that wounded duck, there wouldn't be these nonsensical threads.