So... what do the Browns do with the #1 pick next year?

• Tiernan

  Mark Sanchez will prolly be available and the Jets should have the no. 4 or 5 spot. Pull the trigger now Holmsy.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  LOLZ. I'd rather play without a QB than play with Sanchez.
• BR1986FB

  Tiernan;1291163 wrote:Mark Sanchez will prolly be available and the Jets should have the no. 4 or 5 spot. Pull the trigger now Holmsy.

  My thoughts are that the Jets might be picking fairly high and QB is a definite need for them. We don't want Sanchez though.
• Tiernan

  BR1986FB;1291170 wrote:My thoughts are that the Jets might be picking fairly high and QB is a definite need for them. We don't want Sanchez though.

  Well maybe they could get Timmy Terrific & Mangold plus the #4 or #5 pick for the no. 1 pick. I see this as a win / win for two of my favorite teams.
• like_that

  

  This is the article i was referring to:
  
  http://deadspin.com/5949941/robert-griffin-iii-is-the-quarterback-of-the-future-of-the-past
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Tiernan;1291180 wrote:Well maybe they could get Timmy Terrific & Mangold plus the #4 or #5 pick for the no. 1 pick. I see this as a win / win for two of my favorite teams.

  I lol'd
• Tiernan

  Commander of Awesome;1291188 wrote:I lol'd

  Caught me
• se-alum

  

  like_that;1291090 wrote:If you can trade down within the top 5-7 you do it. You're still getting an elite player.

  So you think Blackmon, Claiborne, and Barron will have the same impact in this league as Luck, RGIII, and Richardson? I tend to believe there are usually 2-3 can't miss guys in a given draft, and trading out of the top 1-4 spots in the draft gets you to the second tier of players. Of course you'll always have players that outperform their draft spot, but they're few and far between.
• BR1986FB

  se-alum;1291232 wrote:So you think Blackmon, Claiborne, and Barron will have the same impact in this league as Luck, RGIII, and Richardson? I tend to believe there are usually 2-3 can't miss guys in a given draft, and trading out of the top 1-4 spots in the draft gets you to the second tier of players. Of course you'll always have players that outperform their draft spot, but they're few and far between.

  Disagree on the "few and far between" comment.
  
  In the 2011 draft alone, #4 AJ Green, #5 Patrick Peterson, #6 Julio Jones, #7 Aldon Smith, #11 JJ Watt, #16 Ryan Kerrigan...all studs and that's as far down as #16. That's a very small sample size (I could find more). I get the mindset behind what you're thinking but a good GM will find stars all over the draft.
• said_aouita

  

  like_that;1290994 wrote:Luck will easily have the better career.

  Hopefully we get to see and rg3 doesn't end up in a wheelchair. He'll soon learn it's better to step out of bounds and not try cutting up the line for a few more yards. (IMO)
  
  Plain and simple Vick is an idiot and can't read a defense. I believe rg3 reads defenses and is smarter than some of the most recent scrambling qb's.
  

  se-alum;1290999 wrote:I fully expect, barring injury, for Luck to at least be in the "best ever" conversation when his career is over.

  Daniel Snyder comes across like a D-bag but at least he's willing to spend the big bucks.
  Redskins seem to be closer to a playoff caliber team than the Colts.
• Sonofanump

  said_aouita;1291297 wrote:Hopefully we get to see and rg3 doesn't end up in a wheelchair. He'll soon learn it's better to step out of bounds and not try cutting up the line for a few more yards. (IMO)
  
  Plain and simple Vick is an idiot and can't read a defense. I believe rg3 reads defenses and is smarter than some of the most recent scrambling qb's.
  
  
  
  Daniel Snyder comes across like a D-bag but at least he's willing to spend the big bucks.
  Redskins seem to be closer to a playoff caliber team than the Colts.

  I'll take the Colts record over the Redskins in years 2-6 from now.
• se-alum

  

  BR1986FB;1291236 wrote:Disagree on the "few and far between" comment.
  
  In the 2011 draft alone, #4 AJ Green, #5 Patrick Peterson, #6 Julio Jones, #7 Aldon Smith, #11 JJ Watt, #16 Ryan Kerrigan...all studs and that's as far down as #16. That's a very small sample size (I could find more). I get the mindset behind what you're thinking but a good GM will find stars all over the draft.

  Oh, I know, I'm saying there are usually only a couple players that are virtual locks to be very good NFL players in a given year. You can definitely get good players at other picks, but it becomes more of a gamble. I always thought Green and Peterson were locks to be great NFL players in that draft. I was high on Watt and Kerrigan too, but wasn't sure they would be as good as they are. I'm just sayin' that your odds of getting a future great player, get smaller the later you get in the draft. Of course it COULD happen, but it's not all that common.
• zach24oz

  I wanted the Browns to draft Peterson so they could have Haden and Peterson back there instead of Haden and suck or in the case of the last few weeks, suck and suck as corners. Then they should have just taken Julio last draft.
• SportsAndLady

  

  said_aouita;1291297 wrote:Redskins seem to be closer to a playoff caliber team than the Colts.

  Typical Redskins mentality; we've got a great team this year! Then you do nothing just like pretty much every year. When was the last time they've even won their division? The 90's?
  
  Colts looked really good against Green Bay. They adjusted well to probably the best QB in the league, and Luck looks to be the real deal. Hell of a move to keep Wayne as well. I'll take them this year over the Redskins.
• Laley23

  

  said_aouita;1291297 wrote: Redskins seem to be closer to a playoff caliber team than the Colts.

  The Colts were way worse than the Redskins last year, so that makes sense. Then they took their #2 and most explosive WR and added him to their team, while the Colts added Donnie Avery and TY Hilton. Indys #2 is out with injuries and their O-Line was ignored in the offseason to build talent at the other positions around Luck. I would seriously hope the Skins are closer to a playoff team than the Colts.
  
  Not to mention the defensive side of the ball where Indy has 2 playmakers...Freeney and Mathis. Of course, you probably are ignoring the fact that they have been running a 4-3 since the mid 90s and Pagano brought over his 3-4 scheme and those 2 players moved from DE to OLB. That will take quite a bit of time.
  
  So, yeah, Skins may be closer to the playoffs this year. But neither team will make it, and down the road, I am confident the Colts are the team to take.
• Heretic

  

  said_aouita;1291297 wrote:Daniel Snyder comes across like a D-bag but at least he's willing to spend the big bucks.
  Redskins seem to be closer to a playoff caliber team than the Colts.

  Dan Snyder is one of those obnoxious "finger in everything" owners that buys big names with no concept of team chemistry, too. He's spent lots of money over the past however many years, but him winning ANYTHING is equal to a blind squirrel finding a nut, at least so far into his ownership.
• like_that

  

  said_aouita;1291297 wrote:
  Daniel Snyder comes across like a D-bag but at least he's willing to spend the big bucks.
  Redskins seem to be closer to a playoff caliber team than the Colts.

  If you knew anything about NFL and its history, this doesn't mean shit. You would also know that Dan Snyder has tried to buy a Super Bowl multiple times now and it has come crashing down on him every time. If I were a bandwagon fan like you, I would pick the Colts over the Skins to be my team. The Colts actually have their draft picks the next few years to build around their team.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Steelers ahve spent the least on players over the past 10 yrs. Hope this helps Said.
• sleeper

  

  like_that;1291907 wrote:If you knew anything about NFL and its history, this doesn't mean shit. You would also know that Dan Snyder has tried to buy a Super Bowl multiple times now and it has come crashing down on him every time. If I were a bandwagon fan like you, I would pick the Colts over the Skins to be my team. The Colt's actually have their draft picks the next few years to build around their team.

  My thinking as well. As good as a player RG3 is, the asking price was way too high.
• said_aouita

  

  like_that;1291907 wrote:If you knew anything about NFL and its history, this doesn't mean shit. You would also know that Dan Snyder has tried to buy a Super Bowl multiple times now and it has come crashing down on him every time. If I were a bandwagon fan like you, I would pick the Colts over the Skins to be my team. The Colts actually have their draft picks the next few years to build around their team.

  I am a bandwagon fan of the NFL, true. It's why I cheer for more than one team. I'm not some closed minded fool like some people around here.
  
  Don't hate me because you know the Browns would be better with rg3.
  
  Even Browns fans can respect owners like the Rooney's and what they've done. Maybe even a guy like Kraft and the Pat's.
  Snyder and his willing to spend is at least fun to watch, unlike the Cleveland Browns.
  
  Lets see who gets deep into the playoffs, the Browns or 'Skins.
• like_that

  

  said_aouita;1291982 wrote:I am a bandwagon fan of the NFL, true. It's why I cheer for more than one team. I'm not some closed minded fool like some people around here.
  
  Don't hate me because you know the Browns would be better with rg3.

  Stopped reading after this. This is why I (and many posters) don't give a fuck about your posts. Hope this helps.
• BR1986FB

  said_aouita;1291982 wrote:I am a bandwagon fan of the NFL, true. It's why I cheer for more than one team. I'm not some closed minded fool like some people around here.
  
  Don't hate me because you know the Browns would be better with rg3.

  We're "close minded fools" because we are loyal to, and cheer for, one team? LOL :laugh:
• Commander of Awesome

  

  like_that;1291984 wrote:Stopped reading after this. This is why I (and many posters) don't give a fuck about your posts. Hope this helps.

  See its by Said, I usually just skip it.
• said_aouita

  

  like_that;1291984 wrote:Stopped reading after this. This is why I (and many posters) don't give a fuck about your posts. Hope this helps.

  
  
  Not really.
  
  Pretty stupid of you (and many posters) to be honest but I guess that's also why you cheer for the Browns.
  
  

  BR1986FB;1291985 wrote:We're "close minded fools" because we are loyal to, and cheer for, one team? LOL

  I don't understand why somebody can't just enjoy the sport overall and not only cheer for one team.
  Because you cheer for one team, your opinion is supposedly more accurate?
• BR1986FB

  said_aouita;1291987 wrote: I don't understand why somebody can't just enjoy the sport overall and not only cheer for one team.
  Pretty stupid of you (and many posters) to be honest but I guess that's also why you cheer for the Browns.

  SMH...you need to get back in the kitchen and make us ALL sandwiches.