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robj55

ernest_t_bass;1457685 wrote:Doris ****ing Burke? Really? Woof

lol, hard times at ESPN

robj55

lhslep134;1457686 wrote:That's not true at all. If their bench was fine, they could overcome their starters sucking.

Norris Cole
Mike Miller
Ray Allen
Shane Battier
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis
Joel Anthony
Jame Jones

Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.

Mulva

robj55;1457688 wrote:Norris Cole
Mike Miller
Ray Allen
Shane Battier
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis
Joel Anthony
Jame Jones

Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.

Denver and the Clippers easily. I would also take Utah's bench when Hayward is filling 6th man duties.

lhslep134

robj55;1457688 wrote:Norris Cole
Mike Miller
Ray Allen
Shane Battier
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis
Joel Anthony
Jame Jones

Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.

If I wasn't drunk at a bar id spend the time needed to completely shoot you down. As it stands, ill simply posit a giant LOL

robj55

Mulva;1457690 wrote:Denver and the Clippers easily. I would also take Utah's bench when Hayward is filling 6th man duties.

I would have to see names to compare.

robj55

lhslep134;1457691 wrote:If I wasn't drunk at a bar if spend the time needed to completely shoot you down. As it stands, ill simply posit a giant LOL

That's fine, I was asking.

Mulva

robj55;1457692 wrote:I would have to see names to compare.

The Clippers had Bledsoe, Crawford, Barnes, and Odom off the bench.

Denver has Javale, Wilson Chandler, Andre Miller, and Brewer.

Azubuike24

robj55;1457688 wrote:Norris Cole
Mike Miller - 5 years ago
Ray Allen - 5 years ago
Shane Battier - in college
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis - 5 years ago
Joel Anthony
James Jones - pick about half-dozen games in his career

Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.

The Miami bench has a bunch of specialists, but lets face it, the names are stronger than the games at this point. If you shut down the 1 or 2 things each guy does at a very high level, it's a pretty crappy bench.

6-12 can be the next 7 guys who post on this thread. If the big 3 are scoring 80 points and ramming it down the throats every possession, it doesn't matter.

GOONx19

robj55;1457692 wrote:I would have to see names to compare.

That's all Miami has. Names. Their bench is decent, but it looks a lot better due to name recognition than it actually is.

robj55

Mulva;1457694 wrote:The Clippers had Bledsoe, Crawford, Barnes, and Odom off the bench.

Denver has Javale, Wilson Chandler, Andre Miller, and Brewer.

Yeah I think I would take those as well, but I think Miami's bench fits their team needs more. I guess that's why I said anyone would want their bench. Every player fills a role which is what you want. Their players also do the intangible things, something those Clipper players(asides from Barnes) don't do. All someone like Crawford can do is score. Pretty good debate though.

robj55

I agree with both of you Goon and AZU, most of those guys are older and past their primes.

ernest_t_bass

Fuck Steven A Smif.

friendfromlowry

Without looking up how his numbers have changed over the past 2-3 years, it seems like Bosh's value has really taken a shit. When/if they decide to trade him, I wonder what they'll get in return. I'm just going off instinct, but it's like for every good game he has, he has three where he isn't impacting.

Fly4Fun

friendfromlowry;1457869 wrote:Without looking up how his numbers have changed over the past 2-3 years, it seems like Bosh's value has really taken a shit. When/if they decide to trade him, I wonder what they'll get in return. I'm just going off instinct, but it's like for every good game he has, he has three where he isn't impacting.

He is an example of one of those NBA players that got great numbers being on an average (or bad) team. Happens all the time in the NBA.

friendfromlowry

Fly4Fun;1457899 wrote:He is an example of one of those NBA players that got great numbers being on an average (or bad) team. Happens all the time in the NBA.

I agree that he went from a bad team to a great one, but happens all the time? I don't know that you're necessarily wrong, but Bosh was averaging 24/10 and his numbers are nearly cut in half, in the playoffs at least.

Fly4Fun

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2013/notebook/_/id/9383835/guide-flopping

Notable people missing from being called out here:

Chris Bosh on #3 "The Fall Guy"

Kobe Bryant on #4 "The Flying Fibula"

And

LeBron James... although I'm not sure which one best suits him, possibly #2 "The Ric Flair"

Pick6

lhslep134;1457691 wrote:If I wasn't drunk at a bar id spend the time needed to completely shoot you down. As it stands, ill simply posit a giant LOL

Out at a bar and reading the OC. lol.

Fly4Fun

ESPN reporting Iquodala plans to opt out of his contract in Denver.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9389759/andre-iguodala-denver-nuggets-opt-contract-reports

Rotinaj

Rotinaj reporting that Iguodala is overrated. Terrible from downtown and shot 57% from the stripe last year.

killer_ewok

Reports are that the Clippers are attempting to trade DeAndre Jordan and 2 1st round picks to the Celtics for KG and Doc Rivers (obviously not technically trading for Doc but would essentially be doing so).

This is a pretty big trade if it goes down.

Fly4Fun

killer_ewok;1458316 wrote:Reports are that the Clippers are attempting to trade DeAndre Jordan and 2 1st round picks to the Celtics for KG and Doc Rivers (obviously not technically trading for Doc but would essentially be doing so).

This is a pretty big trade if it goes down.

NBC Sports is saying Pierce is tied into this as well, but it's very unlikely to actually happen.

killer_ewok

Fly4Fun;1458318 wrote:NBC Sports is saying Pierce is tied into this as well, but it's very unlikely to actually happen.

I haven't seen anything about Pierce yet.

Fly4Fun

killer_ewok;1458319 wrote:I haven't seen anything about Pierce yet.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/15/some-buzz-growing-around-garnett-pierce-rivers-to-clippers-but-its-a-long-shot/related/

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9390303/los-angeles-clippers-believe-land-doc-rivers-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-according-sources

Also, I look at this saying that everyone wants to get away from Rondo (Not really, but I just always felt like he was the annoying little brother that no one liked but they put up with anyways).

Pick6

I saw something about the deal on my timeline with Pierce being included as well. Dont care enough to look it up.

With or without Pierce the Clippers would absolutely be getting bent over in the trade. Two first rounders (from a historically shitty franchise) and a solid starter for another decade to basically rent a coach and two washed up players for 1-2 years tops? No thanks. Im sure Doc and KG and possibly Pierce are interested in this because they are banking on CP3 being there, which I really doubt. Reports are that him and D12 have been talking about finding a way to team up for months.

Fly4Fun

Pick6;1458321 wrote:I saw something about the deal on my timeline with Pierce being included as well. Dont care enough to look it up.

With or without Pierce the Clippers would absolutely be getting bent over in the trade. Two first rounders (from a historically shitty franchise) and a solid starter for another decade to basically rent a coach and two washed up players for 1-2 years tops? No thanks. Im sure Doc and KG and possibly Pierce are interested in this because they are banking on CP3 being there, which I really doubt. Reports are that him and D12 have been talking about finding a way to team up for months.

I've seen the reports about Chris Paul and Dwight Howard wanting to land in the same spot, but I haven't seen anything about where that spot could be.

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