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  • Footwedge
    Laley23;1197605 wrote:They really called that first run unearned?

    While the dude was dead with a good throw from Santana, you cant assume it. Cueto easily scores on the Votto groundout, I would think. That run should be earned.
    I didn't see the play....but Hammy confirmed the guy was dead. You can definitely make an assumption on a play like that. The only time you can't assume something is a DP...which is one of the dumbest rules in baseball.
  • Footwedge
    wes_mantooth;1197520 wrote:Actually, I have no idea. I can't keep track of all the terrible moves this organization has made.
    Jeanmar was drafted in the same round as I was. Just a little hint there.
  • wes_mantooth
    Footwedge;1197906 wrote:I didn't see the play....but Hammy confirmed the guy was dead. You can definitely make an assumption on a play like that. The only time you can't assume something is a DP...which is one of the dumbest rules in baseball.

    That is interesting....I never heard that before when applied to a pick off
  • Laley23
    Footwedge;1197906 wrote:I didn't see the play....but Hammy confirmed the guy was dead. You can definitely make an assumption on a play like that. The only time you can't assume something is a DP...which is one of the dumbest rules in baseball.
    That may be true, I have no clue, but it is not ever interpreted that way. A good throw nails a lot of guys stealing. But they arent given errors when the guy is safe. Was he going to be out? Probably. Was he stuck in the middle of 1st and 2nd? No. He was diving back. He wouldve been out by less than a foot, hardly "dead". That run should be earned, no doubt about it.
  • Footwedge
    Laley23;1197942 wrote:That may be true, I have no clue, but it is not ever interpreted that way. A good throw nails a lot of guys stealing. But they arent given errors when the guy is safe. Was he going to be out? Probably. Was he stuck in the middle of 1st and 2nd? No. He was diving back. He wouldve been out by less than a foot, hardly "dead". That run should be earned, no doubt about it.
    Like I said...I didn't see the play. Hamilton said the guy was going to be out. The official scorer agreed with Hamilton. If that's the case. then the run has to be unearned.

    Case in point. Sac fly with one out...and the throw beats the runner, but the catcher drops the ball...it is an error and an unearned run. This play...same scenario...other than who receives the error.
  • Footwedge
    wes_mantooth;1197927 wrote:That is interesting....I never heard that before when applied to a pick off
    Are you somehow saying that if a guy drops the throw when the runner was going to be out...it is not ruled an error? Really?

    When a guy is thrown out at second on a steal attempt...only to have the SS drop the ball...it is always ruled an error as in every single time.
  • ohiobucks1
    Going to the game tomorrow.

    roll tribe
  • wes_mantooth
    Footwedge;1197988 wrote:Are you somehow saying that if a guy drops the throw when the runner was going to be out...it is not ruled an error? Really?

    When a guy is thrown out at second on a steal attempt...only to have the SS drop the ball...it is always ruled an error as in every single time.

    No, I wasn't being a smartass, I had never seen this happen....or at least paid attention to the official scoring on it. Even though I am sure it is fairly common
  • Glory Days
    Footwedge;1197988 wrote:Are you somehow saying that if a guy drops the throw when the runner was going to be out...it is not ruled an error? Really?

    When a guy is thrown out at second on a steal attempt...only to have the SS drop the ball...it is always ruled an error as in every single time.
    I dont think i have ever seen that either.
  • Rotinaj
    wes_mantooth;1197776 wrote:Except for Jimenez...he would already have thrown 120 pitches.
    Unless he was pitching for Colorado. Lolzzzzz.
  • HitsRus
    I expect ANY starter to be able to go more than 5 innings.
    ...and Gomez did. He was taken out of the game with his team solidly in the game. In contrast, the bullpen gave up 5 runs in 4 innings.
    Other than the the closer and set up guys, the rest of the pen has been spotty at best.
  • Glory Days
    HitsRus;1198098 wrote:...and Gomez did. He was taken out of the game with his team solidly in the game. In contrast, the bullpen gave up 5 runs in 4 innings.
    Other than the the closer and set up guys, the rest of the pen has been spotty at best.
    This. I think people over estimate the tribe bullpen.
  • Crimson streak
    When we have the lead we have possibly a top 3 bullpen in the league but when we're losing it's a bottom 3 bullpen lol
  • HitsRus
    actually I was wrong ...the BP gave up 5 runs in 3 innings...the Reds didn't have to bat in the 9th.
  • Laley23
    HitsRus;1198098 wrote:...and Gomez did. He was taken out of the game with his team solidly in the game. In contrast, the bullpen gave up 5 runs in 4 innings.
    Other than the the closer and set up guys, the rest of the pen has been spotty at best.
    He kept us in the game, but he couldnt make it past the 5th. That sucks. It isnt horrible like giving up 6 runs and only going 5. But it isnt good.
  • Con_Alma
    Lowe 7-2 3.72 ERA vs Latos 4-2 4.85 ERA

    First Pitch 7:10
  • BRF
    Con_Alma;1198880 wrote:Lowe 7-4 3.72 ERA vs Latos 4-2 4.85 ERA

    First Pitch 7:10
    FIFY
  • Con_Alma
    ooops, thanks.
  • Con_Alma
    Bunt singles and power from Kipnis.

    You don't see a lot of #3 hitters bunting.
  • Con_Alma
    20 game hitting streak now for Brantley
  • wildcats20
    Brantley seems to be really come around, eh?
  • Con_Alma
    He's been locked in for a while now.

    Damon had to be looking curve ball there.
  • Glory Days
    bases loaded 0 outs and we score 1 on a fielders choice....
  • Con_Alma
    Lowe is all over the place. 2 walks have contributed to 2 runs.
  • Laley23
    Our pitching is really weak. If we are in contention, Id rather they get a pitcher than a bat. But a RH power bat would be nice.