Super Bowl XLVI - New England Patriots vs. New York Giants

• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  SportsAndLady;1064137 wrote:Did I say those 4 QBs are elite?
  
  No. I did not.
  
  I said I think of elite as the 2 or 3 best at their position.
  
  Then I said Eli is not better than Manning, Brees, Brady, or Rodgers.
  
  Comprende'?

  lol so which one isn't elite then?
• SportsAndLady

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1064141 wrote:lol so which one isn't elite then?

  Brady and Rodgers are elite.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  SportsAndLady;1064221 wrote:Brady and Rodgers are elite.

  lol but the guy who crushed Marinos' passing record isn't. gtfo
• SportsAndLady

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1064271 wrote:lol but the guy who crushed Marinos' passing record isn't. gtfo

  Stafford came pretty close, didn't he? Do you consider him elite? lol
• Heretic

  

  http://www.theonion.com/articles/eli-manning,27109/
  
  This breaks down the pros-and-cons of Eli quite nicely.
• Laley23

  

  SportsAndLady;1064221 wrote:Brady and Rodgers are elite.

  Peyton?
  
  Also, Brees to this date > Rodgers to this date.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  SportsAndLady;1064341 wrote:Stafford came pretty close, didn't he? Do you consider him elite? lol

  lol you're not comparing Brees to Stafford? Give me a break. Is stafford on pace to break Unitis' TD pass record too?
  
  lol brees and manning aren't elite....wow smh
• Skyhook79

  

  SportsAndLady;1064221 wrote:Brady and Rodgers are elite.

  Brees and P. Manning are not Elite but Rogers is. Is it the discount double check commercials that put Rogers over the top for you? smh But I am not really surprised by this considering the source.
  If there can only 2 Elite QB's at one time who was Elite and who wasn't when Elway,Montana,Marino and Kelly were playing?
• SportsAndLady

  

  Laley23;1064350 wrote:Peyton?
  
  Also, Brees to this date > Rodgers to this date.

  I'd probably put Brees as that 3rd elite player. Again, if 5 players at a position are elite, that kinda contradicts the definition of elite. I define elite as the top 2 maybe top 3 at their position. Obviously Manning would be there if not for all these injury complications. I guess thats sort of a cop-out for me but I mean it's true, how can you put someone at the top of their position if he hasn't played in over a year? And may never play again?
  
  I feel like you guys are freaking out over this lol it's just one man's opinion on elite status in the NFL. Brees, Rodgers, Manning, and Brady are ridiculous players at their position, some of the best we've ever seen...and all 4 of them are playing at the same time. Just because Brees may be outside of Brady and Rodgers for me doesn't mean I still don't consider him one of the best to play the position.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1064364 wrote:lol you're not comparing Brees to Stafford? Give me a break. Is stafford on pace to break Unitis' TD pass record too?
  
  lol brees and manning aren't elite....wow smh

  No i'm saying if you're going to say Brees should be up there because he broke a record, shouldn't STafford be up there since he came like a hundred yards short of that record?
  
  And I never said "brees and manning aren't elite"...I'm saying Manning is elite but the guy may never play football again; and if he comes back and isn't the same old Manning, then what? And Brees, I guess I would put at that 3rd elite status. But being behind Rodgers and Brady doesn't exactly mean he's shit lol
  
  So i'll summarize:
  
  Elite:
  Brady
  Rodgers
  Brees
  
  Would be elite if he played:
  Manning
  
  Just behind elite status:
  Eli
• SportsAndLady

  

  Breakdown of Super Bowl rosters:
  
  By college (schools represented by more than one player):
  6 -- Boston College
  5 -- Rutgers
  4 -- Florida, Fresno State, LSU, Miami, Michigan, Virginia
  3 -- Arkansas, Michigan State, Mississippi, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Tennessee, Troy
  2 -- Akron, Alabama, Arizona State, California, Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon, South Florida, TCU, UCLA
  
  By conference:
  23 -- SEC
  22 -- Big Ten
  19 -- ACC
  15 -- Big East, Pac-12
  5 -- Big 12, Conference USA, MAC, WAC
  4 -- Sun Belt
  3 -- Mountain West
  
• BearBoy69

  

  Elite:
  Brady
  Brees
  Peyton Manning
  Rodgers
  BIG BEN
• Laley23

  

  BearBoy69;1064694 wrote:Elite:
  Brady
  Brees
  Peyton Manning
  Rodgers
  BIG BEN

  Nope.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  BearBoy69;1064694 wrote:Elite:
  Brady
  Brees
  Peyton Manning
  Rodgers
  BIG BEN

  take your blinders off old man...big ben is top 10..not top 5
• hasbeen

  

  He also thinks tebow will be a qb for years to come. Slow.
• LJ

  

  nvm
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  BearBoy69;1064694 wrote:Elite:
  Brady
  Brees
  Peyton Manning
  Rodgers
  BIG BEN

  gtfo
• Skyhook79

  

  Elite QB's:
  
  Brady
  P Manning
  Brees
  Rogers
  E. Manning
  
  You cannot spell Elite without Eli.:thumbup:
• like_that

  

  If Eli has finally grown passed the "hey, I am going to throw 4-6 ints this game" stage of his career, then yeah I would consider him elite.
• BearBoy69

  

  If Eli is elite then so is Cam Newton.
  
  Other note: Even if Ben is not elite, he is def still top five, 2 SB rings, 3 appearances, a healthy Big Ben is dangerous, right now he makes that offense
• Laley23

  

  BearBoy69;1065009 wrote:If Eli is elite then so is Cam Newton.
  
  Other note: Even if Ben is not elite, he is def still top five, 2 SB rings, 3 appearances, a healthy Big Ben is dangerous, right now he makes that offense

  Championships dont make you elite. I fucking hate that shit. Stats weigh more imo. Ben falls well short on elite status.
• Automatik

  

  Laley23;1065074 wrote:Championships dont make you elite. I fucking hate that shit. Stats weigh more imo. Ben falls well short on elite status.

  What about come from behind wins?
  
  When you combine is record and stats Roethlisberger is definitely in the "elite" category IMO. He's not quite up there w/ Brady, Rodgers, Brees or Manning....but right after them. I'd say he is in the 2nd tier of QBs, right along with Eli.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  BearBoy69;1065009 wrote:If Eli is elite then so is Cam Newton.
  
  Other note: Even if Ben is not elite, he is def still top five, 2 SB rings, 3 appearances, a healthy Big Ben is dangerous, raping bitches, right now he makes that offense

  fixed it for ya and that alone makes you not elite
• BearBoy69

  

  Automatik;1065109 wrote:What about come from behind wins?
  
  When you combine is record and stats Roethlisberger is definitely in the "elite" category IMO. He's not quite up there w/ Brady, Rodgers, Brees or Manning....but right after them. I'd say he is in the 2nd tier of QBs, right along with Eli.

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  For once i agree with you... i must be going crazy!
  
  and DeyDurkie.... i cant say anything because that made me ROFL
• BearBoy69

  

  Laley23;1065074 wrote:Championships dont make you elite. I ****ing hate that ****. Stats weigh more imo. Ben falls well short on elite status.

  It should be taken into consideration. You better have had a helluva good career w/o any championships to be elite.
  
  The only reason i am rooting against Eli is because it'd be a crime if he had more rings than Peyton. Eli only wishes to be as good as Peyton