Week 14: Cleveland Browns (4-8) at Pittsburgh Steelers (9-3) - Thursday night

• Non

  

  THE4RINGZ;1002652 wrote:Redman is the type of runner that can punish the browns. The Steelers have used him more this season in different roles.

  They had a good mixture on Sunday.
  
  Mendenhall 16 carries for 60 yards and 2 TDs.
  Redman 8 carries for 51 yards
  
  Their running game seems to work better when they rotate them both. Mendenhall even seems to run harder after Redman breaks off a couple of nice ones. He feels threatened.
• Heretic

  

  Damn. I don't get NFL Network. I have friends who do, but they're Browns fans, which means I could find myself getting gutted like a fish when I start getting obnoxious.
  
  This is a conundrum.
• Ironman92

  

  I voted.
• Skyhook79

  

  Heretic;1002807 wrote:Damn. I don't get NFL Network. I have friends who do, but they're Browns fans, which means I could find myself getting gutted like a fish when I start getting obnoxious.
  
  This is a conundrum.

  Go with the latter, at least your browns fan friends will have something to cheer about.
• Non

  

  Browns could really use a win over the Steelers, in one of these games.
  
  Stating the obvious here but they're having a terrible season.
  
  Not generating any buzz. No life in the stadium when I turn on the games. At least last year they had that mini spurt about midseason. This has been a nothing of a season for the Browns. Surprising, I thought they'd be a lot better.
• BR1986FB

  Non;1002886 wrote:Browns could really use a win over the Steelers, in one of these games.
  
  Stating the obvious here but they're having a terrible season.
  
  Not generating any buzz. No life in the stadium when I turn on the games. At least last year they had that mini spurt about midseason. This has been a nothing of a season for the Browns. Surprising, I thought they'd be a lot better.

  When the head coach quits on you the players soon follow. There will be no more wins this year.
• Non

  

  In hindsight, I think they should've stuck with Mangini. That was a pretty good year last year.
  
  It ended bad getting thumped by the Steelers but overall they were making some strides.
• GoChiefs

  

  Non;1002907 wrote:In hindsight, I think they should've stuck with Mangini. That was a pretty good year last year.
  
  It ended bad getting thumped by the Steelers but overall they were making some strides.

  You sir, have a PM.
• Automatik

  

  I felt Mangini needed to go, but its looking like Shumer is worse. It has to be frustrating as hell to watch that shit product on the field every week....reminds me a lot OSU this year. Terrible play calling along with one mistake after another.
• BR1986FB

  Mangini is essentially the equivalent of Hitler wearing a headset. He had to go. Holmgren screwed up in giving him that extra year to be "fair" when everyone knew he was a lame duck.
  
  As I said on the Browns thread, at least John Fox adapts his offense to fit the players (Tebow) in it. This team is equipped to RUN the ball yet Shurmur wants to forcefeed his "pass first" WCO.
• Non

  

  Shurmur seems like he's in the mold of a Morningwhig (sp?), Linehan, Zorn, etc.
  
  Coaches that just don't look the part as a head coach. Ever after one year you can tell he was not qualified.
• Non

  

  How about Jeff Fisher?
  
  Good coach. Seems like a natural fit in the AFC North.
• BR1986FB

  Holmgren wants the guys from his "tree" (see nepotism) which is starting to looking like a soft ass pussified finesse group that has no idea how to play in a "tough" AFC North.
• Al Bundy

  BR1986FB;1002917 wrote:Mangini is essentially the equivalent of Hitler wearing a headset. He had to go. Holmgren screwed up in giving him that extra year to be "fair" when everyone knew he was a lame duck.
  
  As I said on the Browns thread, at least John Fox adapts his offense to fit the players (Tebow) in it. This team is equipped to RUN the ball yet Shurmur wants to forcefeed his "pass first" WCO.

  Holmgren also gave himself an extra year by keeping Mangini. Holmgren has pretty much been a given a free pass up to this point, but if things do not at least start to go in a positive direction, he has to be given some of the blame.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  It almost seems to me that shurmur knows the logical way of using colt(fast paced offense, 2 minute drill constantly) but just doesn't want him as his qb. He is making it as hard as possible for him so that he can use that as an excuse to part ways with him. At least in my opinion it does.
• BR1986FB

  Al Bundy;1003074 wrote:Holmgren also gave himself an extra year by keeping Mangini. Holmgren has pretty much been a given a free pass up to this point, but if things do not at least start to go in a positive direction, he has to be given some of the blame.

  Holmgren's pay check stealing ass has been getting plenty of blame with me. He hired Shurmur.
• GoPens

  

  I'll go Steelers 24-17 with the game in doubt in the 4th.
• BR1986FB

  GoPens;1003336 wrote:I'll go Steelers 24-17 with the game in doubt in the 4th.

  This won't be close. I know Pittsburgh has "played to the level of their competition" but they would have to play rock bottom in this game for it to be even close.
  
  McCoy was EXTREMELY lucky against Baltimore. He was telegraphing his throws and DB's were jumping routes. Too bad for Baltimore that their DB's have stone hands or they would've had 3-4 picks with at least one being for 6. Pittsburgh will be salivating when they see the game film.
  
  And for those thinking "the Browns may pull out ALL the stops in this one?" The Browns have NO 'stops." "Exotic" for Shurmur is running on 2nd & short...normally he passes, it's incomplete as is the next pass...then a punt.
• slingshot4ever

  FUCK THE STEELERS! GO BROWNS!!!
• BR1986FB

  If the Browns want to try to keep this respectable, they can't give up on the run. But knowing Shurmur, they will abandon it early and Pittsburgh's rush will pin their ears back.
• OQB

  

  BR1986FB;1005572 wrote:If the Browns want to try to keep this respectable, they can't give up on the run. But knowing Shurmur, they will abandon it early and Pittsburgh's rush will pin their ears back.

  
  This is almost a guarantee...
• THE4RINGZ

  

  You can beat the Steelers through the air.
• BR1986FB

  THE4RINGZ;1005584 wrote:You can beat the Steelers through the air.

  Checkdown Charlie (McCoy) and his band of craptastic WR's can't...
• like_that

  

  BR1986FB;1005572 wrote:If the Browns want to try to keep this respectable, they can't give up on the run. But knowing Shurmur, they will abandon it early and Pittsburgh's rush will pin their ears back.

  I really don't understand why he abandons the run all the damn time. It cost him the cincy game.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  Swaggin' U will try to jump a route on the check down and miss, mark my words.