NBA Free Agency
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Commander of Awesome
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-spears_nba_free_agents_112711
Where do you see some of the NBA Free Agents going? I've heard Chicago is going to go after Young pretty hard though I'm not sure I see him moving. I think he is a RFA.
Also:
$.10-- The NBA lockout finally came to an end, just in time to salvage an abbreviated season that starts on Christmas Day. After lots of bitter acrimony and doomsday speak, cooler heads prevailed.
I'm actually a big fan of a shorter, more compact season. 66 games between Christmas and the very end of April is better than 82 between late October and mid-April. Playing five games in seven nights shouldn't be too much of a challenge, provided the schedule makers are able to read a map. Hopefully this eliminates the ridiculous stretches like the Cavs had a few years ago when they played Monday in Toronto, Tuesday in Cleveland, Thursday in Miami, and Friday in New Jersey. I like the sense of urgency and putting more of a reliance on having functional depth.
But I think the NBA missed a golden opportunity here to do what they really needed. Contracting two teams should have been a given and not a quickly discarded negotiating chit. New Orleans has proven time and again that it is incapable of supporting a viable NBA franchise. It's a team currently under league control that cannot find an owner willing to keep the franchise in New Orleans. Their arena situation is poor, and they rank near the bottom in ancillary revenue. They were the poster child for why many other owners were crying foul, and they should have been whacked. And because it makes no sense to have an odd number of teams, the league could easily have contracted another franchise hemorrhaging cash on a yearly basis. The Charlotte Bobcats, a team nobody really clamored for after the Hornets fled for New Orleans after years of mismanagement and a half-full (if they were lucky) arena, would not be missed after a year or two.
Heck, I would strongly consider contracting my beloved Cleveland Cavaliers. The bump in prominence that team got from Lebron is going to wane quickly. Then it will be back to the days where my Dad and I could count the number of people sitting in the upper bowl on our four hands. One of the last pre-LeBron game I attended in Cleveland, I sat in Section 133, the corner section behind the basket beyond the visitor bench. I got the $35 tickets free. My brother and I were the only people in our row, the rows immediately above and below us were completely empty, and this was against the defending East champion Nets. Those days are coming back to Cleveland very soon, and owner Dan Gilbert will be losing millions. Remember, he bought in high. It would break my heart to see the Cavaliers go away, but the plain fact is that the NBA is not viable in that market. Just as the NHL blew their chance to eliminate superfluous teams in Miami and Long Island, the NBA leadership failed to address one of the biggest reasons why they locked the players out in the first place. The league had a chance to remedy that but chickened out on the contraction front. [LEFT]
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Jeff Risdon can go fuck himself.
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Commander of Awesome
1. Nene, Nuggets, C, 29, $11.3 million 2010-11 salary; U: The Nuggets can pay Nene more money than any other team. Nene’s wife also is from Colorado. Still, several teams will try to persuade him to leave Denver. Golden State, Houston, the Los Angeles Clippers, Washington, New Jersey and Indiana could make a run at him. The Miami Heat want an upgrade at center, but they likely would have to work a sign-and-trade deal to land Nene. Portland and Dallas (if it doesn’t re-sign Tyson Chandler) also could have interest.
2. Tyson Chandler(notes), Mavericks, C, 29, $12.6 million 2010-11 salary, U: Chandler’s stock rose dramatically after his defense helped lift the Mavericks to last season’s championship – which is why the Mavs hope to re-sign him. Dallas could lower its salary-cap hit by using its amnesty provision on Chandler’s backup, Brendan Haywood. The same teams pursuing Nene likely will be interested in Chandler.
3. David West(notes), Hornets, PF, 31, $8.2 million 2010-11 salary, U: The Hornets can ill afford to lose West, especially if they want to keep guard Chris Paul happy. Will his knee injury scare prospective teams? Sacramento, New Jersey and Indiana could pursue him. Denver also could have interest if Nene leaves.
4. Marc Gasol(notes), Grizzlies, C, 26, $3.5 million 2010-11 salary, R: Gasol would be No. 1 on this list if he weren’t a restricted free agent. The Grizzlies likely will have to go into luxury tax territory to keep their starting center. And after reaching the second round of last season’s playoffs, they could be willing to pay that price.
5. DeAndre Jordan(notes), Clippers, C, 23, $854,000 2010-11 salary, R: The Clippers might give Nene, Tyson Chandler and Gasol a look before making an offer to Jordan, who has become a nice complement to Blake Griffin(notes). Jordan could get overpaid by a desperate team, possibly the Rockets.
After reaching the second round of the playoffs last season, the Grizzlies are expected to try to re-sign center Marc Gasol.
(Getty Images)
6. Thaddeus Young(notes), Sixers, SF, 23, $2.9 million 2010-11 salary, R: With Andre Iguodala(notes) and Evan Turner(notes) on the roster, could Young be expendable? The Clippers, who are looking for a versatile small forward, could come calling.
7. Andrei Kirilenko(notes), Jazz, SF, 30, $17.8 million 2010-11 salary, U: The Jazz appear committed to developing Gordon Hayward(notes), so re-signing Kirilenko doesn’t appear likely. Kirilenko signed a three-year deal with CSKA Moscow with an NBA out clause, but he will need a strong offer to leave. It’s no secret the Nets’ Russian owner, Mikhail Prokorov, is interested in his fellow countryman.
8. Jamal Crawford(notes), Hawks, SG, 31, $10 million 2010-11 salary, U: One of the top scorers in this free-agent class. Phoenix, Chicago, New Jersey, Miami and Portland will have interest in Crawford. Atlanta would like to bring him back, sources said, but might not have the money to make a competitive offer.
[ Related: NBA considers leaving its ‘one-and-done’ draft rule in place while exploring options ]
9. Tayshaun Prince(notes), Pistons, SF, 31, $11.1 million 2010-11 salary, U: The Pistons are still interested in re-signing Prince. Golden State or the Clippers also could try to land him.
10. Jeff Green(notes), Celtics, F, 25, $4.5 million 2010-11 salary, R: The Celtics acquired Green in last season’s trade that sent Kendrick Perkins(notes) to Oklahoma City. They likely will try to re-sign him, but at what cost? Green was offered $8 million a year from the Thunder, but his agent, David Falk, wanted much more.
11. Shane Battier(notes), Grizzlies, SF, 33, $7.3 million 2010-11 salary, U: There won’t be a shortage of interest for the tough defender, 3-point shooter and respected professional. Miami, New Jersey, Boston, Oklahoma City, the Los Angeles Lakers and Golden State could try to sign him. The Grizzlies also could try to keep him. -
Commander of Awesome
12. Caron Butler(notes), Mavericks, SF, 31, $10.5 million 2010-11 salary, U: Like West, Butler is coming off knee surgery. Teams could be hesitant to give big money to him, but the Heat – who know Butler well from his days with the franchise – have some interest in bringing him back.
13. Jason Richardson(notes), Magic, SG, 30, $14.4 million 2010-11 salary, U: A veteran team needing scoring could use its midlevel exception to try to sign Richardson. How would he look in the Bulls’ backcourt next to Derrick Rose(notes)?
14. Rodney Stuckey(notes), Pistons, G, 25, $2.7 million 2010-11 salary, R: The Pistons are interested in re-signing Stuckey and are protected by his restricted status. Will any other team give him an offer sheet?
15. Kris Humphries(notes), Nets, PF, 26, $3.2 million 2010-11 salary, 26, U: Kim Kardashian no longer wants him. But there always will be interest from NBA teams in a young big man who can provide a double-double nightly.
Other notable free agents: Nuggets G Arron Afflalo(notes) (R); Mavericks G J.J. Barea(notes) (U); Bobcats C Kwame Brown(notes) (U); Kings C Samuel Dalembert(notes) (U); Celtics F Glen Davis(notes) (U); Pacers F Mike Dunleavy (U); Rockets F Chuck Hayes(notes) (U); Suns F Grant Hill(notes) (U); Hornets F Carl Landry (U); Wizards F Josh Howard(notes) (U); Bucks F Luc Richard Mbah a Moute(notes) (R); Kings SG Marcus Thornton(notes) (R); Cavaliers G Anthony Parker(notes) (U); Wizards G Nick Young(notes) (R). -
Commander of Awesome
1. Nene, Nuggets, C, 29, $11.3 million 2010-11 salary; U: The Nuggets can pay Nene more money than any other team. Nene’s wife also is from Colorado. Still, several teams will try to persuade him to leave Denver. Golden State, Houston, the Los Angeles Clippers, Washington, New Jersey and Indiana could make a run at him. The Miami Heat want an upgrade at center, but they likely would have to work a sign-and-trade deal to land Nene. Portland and Dallas (if it doesn’t re-sign Tyson Chandler) also could have interest.
2. Tyson Chandler(notes), Mavericks, C, 29, $12.6 million 2010-11 salary, U: Chandler’s stock rose dramatically after his defense helped lift the Mavericks to last season’s championship – which is why the Mavs hope to re-sign him. Dallas could lower its salary-cap hit by using its amnesty provision on Chandler’s backup, Brendan Haywood. The same teams pursuing Nene likely will be interested in Chandler.
3. David West(notes), Hornets, PF, 31, $8.2 million 2010-11 salary, U: The Hornets can ill afford to lose West, especially if they want to keep guard Chris Paul happy. Will his knee injury scare prospective teams? Sacramento, New Jersey and Indiana could pursue him. Denver also could have interest if Nene leaves.
4. Marc Gasol(notes), Grizzlies, C, 26, $3.5 million 2010-11 salary, R: Gasol would be No. 1 on this list if he weren’t a restricted free agent. The Grizzlies likely will have to go into luxury tax territory to keep their starting center. And after reaching the second round of last season’s playoffs, they could be willing to pay that price.
5. DeAndre Jordan(notes), Clippers, C, 23, $854,000 2010-11 salary, R: The Clippers might give Nene, Tyson Chandler and Gasol a look before making an offer to Jordan, who has become a nice complement to Blake Griffin(notes). Jordan could get overpaid by a desperate team, possibly the Rockets.
After reaching the second round of the playoffs last season, the Grizzlies are expected to try to re-sign center Marc Gasol.
(Getty Images)
6. Thaddeus Young(notes), Sixers, SF, 23, $2.9 million 2010-11 salary, R: With Andre Iguodala(notes) and Evan Turner(notes) on the roster, could Young be expendable? The Clippers, who are looking for a versatile small forward, could come calling.
7. Andrei Kirilenko(notes), Jazz, SF, 30, $17.8 million 2010-11 salary, U: The Jazz appear committed to developing Gordon Hayward(notes), so re-signing Kirilenko doesn’t appear likely. Kirilenko signed a three-year deal with CSKA Moscow with an NBA out clause, but he will need a strong offer to leave. It’s no secret the Nets’ Russian owner, Mikhail Prokorov, is interested in his fellow countryman.
8. Jamal Crawford(notes), Hawks, SG, 31, $10 million 2010-11 salary, U: One of the top scorers in this free-agent class. Phoenix, Chicago, New Jersey, Miami and Portland will have interest in Crawford. Atlanta would like to bring him back, sources said, but might not have the money to make a competitive offer.
[ Related: NBA considers leaving its ‘one-and-done’ draft rule in place while exploring options ]
9. Tayshaun Prince(notes), Pistons, SF, 31, $11.1 million 2010-11 salary, U: The Pistons are still interested in re-signing Prince. Golden State or the Clippers also could try to land him.
10. Jeff Green(notes), Celtics, F, 25, $4.5 million 2010-11 salary, R: The Celtics acquired Green in last season’s trade that sent Kendrick Perkins(notes) to Oklahoma City. They likely will try to re-sign him, but at what cost? Green was offered $8 million a year from the Thunder, but his agent, David Falk, wanted much more.
11. Shane Battier(notes), Grizzlies, SF, 33, $7.3 million 2010-11 salary, U: There won’t be a shortage of interest for the tough defender, 3-point shooter and respected professional. Miami, New Jersey, Boston, Oklahoma City, the Los Angeles Lakers and Golden State could try to sign him. The Grizzlies also could try to keep him. -
Hb31187
The nuggets are so fucked this season between probably losing Nene and Affalo, and having Chandler, Smith and Martin all over in china maybe locked into deals -
Skyhook79
You were following Melo and the Knicks more than you were the Nuggets after the trade last year.Hb31187;993298 wrote:The nuggets are so fucked this season between probably losing Nene and Affalo, and having Chandler, Smith and Martin all over in china maybe locked into deals -
Hb31187
Oh I was? Anything else you'd like to tell me about myself since you seem to know more about me than I do? Fuckin dimwit lolSkyhook79;993312 wrote:You were following Melo and the Knicks more than you were the Nuggets after the trade last year. -
Hb31187
Wonder if someone can get kirilenko away from the Jazz. Hed be a real nice piece for a contender
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Skyhook79
Hb31187;993313 wrote:Oh I was? Anything else you'd like to tell me about myself since you seem to know more about me than I do? Fuckin dimwit lol
You edited to add "lol"? lol... -
sportswizuhrd
You like the Browns more than the Falcons.Hb31187;993313 wrote:Oh I was? Anything else you'd like to tell me about myself since you seem to know more about me than I do? Fuckin dimwit lol
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Hb31187
It would appear soSkyhook79;993324 wrote:You edited to add "lol"? lol... -
sportswizuhrd
Jefferson and Milsap too.Hb31187;993316 wrote:Wonder if someone can get kirilenko away from the Jazz. Hed be a real nice piece for a contender -
like_that
I asked in the other thread, not sure if I got an answer, but what happens if they decide to stop playing in China? They only lose their money right?Hb31187;993298 wrote:The nuggets are so fucked this season between probably losing Nene and Affalo, and having Chandler, Smith and Martin all over in china maybe locked into deals -
dazedconfused
with all the interest and marketing ties that the nba has in china and the league's unwillingness to threaten any of that, i'd say it's a pretty good bet that they are going to abide by whatever rules the chinese basketball association has set forth. in this case, that means any nba player with a contract in china will not be allowed to play in the nba until marchlike_that;993355 wrote:I asked in the other thread, not sure if I got an answer, but what happens if they decide to stop playing in China? They only lose their money right? -
jordo212000
Why is it going to take so long for free agency to start? Free agency starts and then a few weeks later the regular season starts. You'd think free agency would have started on Monday of this week -
dazedconfused
there's no signed deal in place yet...just a handshake dealjordo212000;993369 wrote:Why is it going to take so long for free agency to start? Free agency starts and then a few weeks later the regular season starts. You'd think free agency would have started on Monday of this week -
jordo212000
yeah I guess you're right, but it seems like the NFL was able to get things rolling much faster after they came to a deal.dazedconfused;993372 wrote:there's no signed deal in place yet...just a handshake deal -
friendfromlowry
Playing devil's advocate for a moment, the NBA was pretty awful back then. IMO, probably the least entertaining it has been in well, decades. Now when some of the best teams in the East come to town, you get to watch all the stars on the Heat/Celtics/Knicks/Bulls. Just feels like a huge difference between then and now.Commander of Awesome;992992 wrote:Then it will be back to the days where my Dad and I could count the number of people sitting in the upper bowl on our four hands. One of the last pre-LeBron game I attended in Cleveland, I sat in Section 133, the corner section behind the basket beyond the visitor bench. I got the $35 tickets free. My brother and I were the only people in our row, the rows immediately above and below us were completely empty, and this was against the defending East champion Nets. Those days are coming back to Cleveland very soon -
Commander of Awesome
Thats part of it, and Jeff Risdon is a POS.
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Ironman92
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Hb31187
I honestly have no idea, im hoping there is a loopholelike_that;993355 wrote:I asked in the other thread, not sure if I got an answer, but what happens if they decide to stop playing in China? They only lose their money right? -
Commander of Awesome
Most of what I have heard/read is that there isn't a loophole. With China being a huge major NBA market, and them knowing ahead of time what they were doing when they signed the deals makes it seem like they're over there for the length of their contract. Its all speculative at this point though but that seems to be the consensus from what I understand.
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wildcats20
Sooooooo...
Deron Williams played 15 games in Turkey and had his jersey retired LOL
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Besiktas-retired-Deron-Wiliams-8217-s-jersey-af?urn=nba-wp11089
Also, just saw this....NBAonESPN The NBA on ESPN
Celtics have discussed a Chris Paul-for-Rajon Rondo trade, sources confirm to @Chris_Broussard: es.pn/vGC4iQ
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robj55
If you are boston you pull the trigger on that deal immediately. Just the threat of a jump shot from Paul would change how teams can defend the Celtics. Plus Chris Paul is a master of running pick and roll and a really good defender, no brainer.wildcats20;994221 wrote:Sooooooo...
Deron Williams played 15 games in Turkey and had his jersey retired LOL
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Besiktas-retired-Deron-Wiliams-8217-s-jersey-af?urn=nba-wp11089
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Hb31187
Eh, itd be a lateral move i think for the Celtics. Paul has a better jumper, Rajon plays better defense