Cam newton

• Pick6

  

  DeyDurkie5;934026 wrote:you are quickly becoming the worst when it comes to sports talk. smh

  cool
• Iliketurtles

  

  Pick6;933613 wrote:Williams and Stewart were considered one of, if not the best RB tandem in the league not too long ago. Smith Nanee and Lafell are probably better than half of the WR corps in the NFL. Especially since Smith is playing like its 2005 again.

  Yeah Williams had a great season then the next year they both went over 1000 yards but since then they haven't really done shit. They are not that good of RBs and outside of Steve Smith their WRs are bad. Shockey and Olsen are alright TEs but still not that great.
  
  Also I would take these teams WRs over Carolinas: Cowboys, Colts, Pats, Packers, Falcons, Saints, Giants, Chiefs, Cardinals, Lions, Eagles, Redskins, Bills, Texans, Ravens, Broncos, Steelers and Chargers which is more then half the teams in the league. I might also take the Jets, Bengals, and Dolphins over the Panthers as well.
  
  Durkie I don't think he could ever get worse then some others.
• Pick6

  

  Iliketurtles;934896 wrote:Yeah Williams had a great season then the next year they both went over 1000 yards but since then they haven't really done shit. They are not that good of RBs and outside of Steve Smith their WRs are bad. Shockey and Olsen are alright TEs but still not that great.
  
  Also I would take these teams WRs over Carolinas: Cowboys, Colts, Pats, Packers, Falcons, Saints, Giants, Chiefs, Cardinals, Lions, Eagles, Redskins, Bills, Texans, Ravens, Broncos, Steelers and Chargers which is more then half the teams in the league. I might also take the Jets, Bengals, and Dolphins over the Panthers as well.
  
  Durkie I don't think he could ever get worse then some others.

  I'd take the Broncos, Bills, and Skins off of that list. I just think Lafell and Nanee are pretty good #2 and #3s. Its all subjective anyways. Even if your list, that still puts them in the middle of the pack, which is basically the point I was trying to prove.
• lhslep134

  

  Hb31187;933610 wrote: And Williams has had 1 good game

  This post is what fantasy football has done to football analysis. You're implying Williams is no longer good because he only had 1 good game, most likely for fantasy purposes.
  
  You're completely overlooking that he's 4th in the NFL in yards/attempt and Stewart is 22nd. Williams is actually 3rd among running backs if you take out Mike Vick who is leading everyone at 8.4
  
  Ignorance is bliss I guess...
• Hb31187

  

  lhslep134;935345 wrote:This post is what fantasy football has done to football analysis. You're implying Williams is no longer good because he only had 1 good game, most likely for fantasy purposes.
  
  You're completely overlooking that he's 4th in the NFL in yards/attempt and Stewart is 22nd. Williams is actually 3rd among running backs if you take out Mike Vick who is leading everyone at 8.4
  
  Ignorance is bliss I guess...

  He also has under 50 carries so his ypc hasnt had a chance to level out like most of the top RBs in the league
• lhslep134

  

  Hb31187;935349 wrote:He also has under 50 carries so his ypc hasnt had a chance to level out like most of the top RBs in the league

  So you get to wait for his stats to "level out" to prove your point and therefore it invalidates the fact he's 3rd in the NFL among running backs in yards/carry now?
  
  Nice logic...
• Iliketurtles

  

  Pick6;935296 wrote:I'd take the Broncos, Bills, and Skins off of that list. I just think Lafell and Nanee are pretty good #2 and #3s. Its all subjective anyways. Even if your list, that still puts them in the middle of the pack, which is basically the point I was trying to prove.

  I will agree with you that they are middle of the pack. But I'll disagree with you that Nanee and Lafell are pretty good #2 and #3s.
• Mulva

  

  lhslep134;935345 wrote:This post is what fantasy football has done to football analysis. You're implying Williams is no longer good because he only had 1 good game, most likely for fantasy purposes.

  I don't get that at all. I would say an uneducated person would be more likely to only look at the totals (such as 4th in NFL in yards/attempt), but when you actually look at the overall numbers, he's been poor in (including today) 4 out of 6 games.
  
  I'm not saying he isn't a good running back, but the ypc average is very misleading with him.
• lhslep134

  

  Mulva;935502 wrote:I don't get that at all. I would say an uneducated person would be more likely to only look at the totals (such as 4th in NFL in yards/attempt), but when you actually look at the overall numbers, he's been poor in (including today) 4 out of 6 games.
  
  I'm not saying he isn't a good running back, but the ypc average is very misleading with him.

  Why would a specific statistic (yards gained per time running the football) be less misleading than a general statistic (yards per game)? THAT doesn't make sense. He can't help how many times he's given the ball per game, he can only do his best when he does get it. And when he does get it, he's 3rd in the NFL among running backs in how many yards he gains per rushing attempt.
• Pick6

  

  Zero passing touchdowns and 3 interceptions today for Cam.
  
  He also now has more interceptions than passing touchdowns on the season.
• GOONx19

  

  Hb31187;935349 wrote:He also has under 50 carries so his ypc hasnt had a chance to level out like most of the top RBs in the league

  This. Colt McCoy is averaging 4 ypc today. Doesn't mean he should keep running the ball.
• Mulva

  

  lhslep134;935634 wrote:Why would a specific statistic (yards gained per time running the football) be less misleading than a general statistic (yards per game)? THAT doesn't make sense. He can't help how many times he's given the ball per game, he can only do his best when he does get it. And when he does get it, he's 3rd in the NFL among running backs in how many yards he gains per rushing attempt.

  Example:
  
  game 1 - 3 carries, 90 yards
  game 2 - 6 carries, 10 yards
  game 3 - 5 carries, 12 yards
  
  Obviously the nonexistent hypothetical player was horrible in 2 out of 3 games. But he's averaging 8 yards per carry!
  
  When you have as few carries as Williams does, one or 2 big rushes is all that's needed to skew your overall average. In reality he's been ineffective in probably 90% of his carries this season.
• lhslep134

  

  Mulva;935680 wrote:Example:
  
  game 1 - 3 carries, 90 yards
  game 2 - 6 carries, 10 yards
  game 3 - 5 carries, 12 yards
  
  Obviously the nonexistent hypothetical player was horrible in 2 out of 3 games. But he's averaging 8 yards per carry!
  
  When you have as few carries as Williams does, one or 2 big rushes is all that's needed to skew your overall average. In reality he's been ineffective in probably 90% of his carries this season.

  I'll definitely give you that. I'm just saying I think he's better than people are giving him credit for, in terms of skill left in tank.
• like_that

  

  DeyDurkie5;934026 wrote:you are quickly becoming the worst when it comes to sports talk. smh

  Nobody will top turdo.
• Rotinaj

  

  Actually that nonexistent hypothetical player IS D Williams. In 2 games he has 19 att for 197 yards for a 10ypc. In the other 4 games he has 39 att for 105 yards for a 2.7 ypc. I think the dude is damn good and have no idea why he gets so few carries.