Tribe/O's Series

• Laley23

  

  ohiobucks1;831386 wrote:705

  
  Fuck. I figured it was, but wasn't sure. I'll be at work! Damnit! Hopefully CC can make it respectable, but I won't ho,d my breathe.
• royal_k

  

  Good win and great job by the BP.
  
  But we still suck.
• BRF

  

  
• hoops23

  

  What more can I say... This team is garbage.
• royal_k

  

  Some good news for this sucky team.
  
  Alex White threw some long toss yesterday and could begin his rehab assignment in 2 weeks.
• Crimson streak

  

  royal_k;831541 wrote:Some good news for this sucky team.
  
  Alex White threw some long toss yesterday and could begin his rehab assignment in 2 weeks.

  
  That is huge hopefully we can get him back by mid august
• hoops23

  

  Crimson streak;831557 wrote:That is huge hopefully we can get him back by mid august

  
  Why? He sucks?
• BR1986FB

  This team just baffles me with their level of pure sucktitude...
  
  A little off topic but there was a debate on WKNR yesterday that IF the Tribe were to be "buyers" at the deadline whether the need has now switched from a right handed power bat to another innings eating starter.
  
  Take into consideration the only guys we can somewhat rely on are CC, Masterson & Tomlin. Carmona and the other guy (keep forgetting his name he's so insignificant) are junk. You can't rely on White coming back or Carmona bouncing back. Also can't put all of your eggs in the Gomez or David Huff "basket." Plus the "big 3" are starting to get into unchartered territories with their number of outings/innings pitched.
  
  Thoughts? Bat or arm?
• royal_k

  

  It would be nice to get both. But being realistic, that won't happen. Acta was saying, in a interview yesterday before the game, that they are seriously in need of a RH bat and that the FO was doing work.
• Crimson streak

  

  I would like Bret myers or even kuroda as a back end starter. You never know but we could see Pomeraz in September.( very Unlikely but stranger things have happened)
• royal_k

  

  Crimson streak;831609 wrote:I would like Bret myers or even kuroda as a back end starter. You never know but we could see Pomeraz in September.( very Unlikely but stranger things have happened)

  
  I've seen guys skip AAA before. It's not out of the question. If he can command all 3 pitches and get his pitch count down, it would be possible. There's no doubt his stuff is good enough now. He has struck out over 30% of batters faced this year. That's incredible.
• bases_loaded

  

  We have arms in the minors. We don't have a RH slugger. The choice is clear
• royal_k

  

  And don't forget about Alex White coming back. I realize he's coming off an injury. But he could be the guy to make this staff really good. He was on his way before being hurt.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Got hammered last night so I could deal with watching this lousy team. Problem is.....I got too smashed and couldn't remember what happened....smh
• BR1986FB

  royal_k;831626 wrote:I've seen guys skip AAA before. It's not out of the question. If he can command all 3 pitches and get his pitch count down, it would be possible. There's no doubt his stuff is good enough now. He has struck out over 30% of batters faced this year. That's incredible.

  
  I think that Greg Swindell came straight from either A ball or AA back in the day. He got rocked, I believe, to the tune of about 20 runs in his debut against the Red Sox. He obviously didn't give em all up but he got shelled.
• BR1986FB

  bases_loaded;831629 wrote:We have arms in the minors. We don't have a RH slugger. The choice is clear

  
  The impression that I got from this dialogue yesterday is that they are expecting Brantley, Druby & Pronk to stay "static" and are expecting "big second halfs" out of Santana, Sizemore & Laporta. I'm not confident that the arms in the minors can get them over the hump, but I'm also not confident in the second half expectations of Sizemore & Laporta.
• hoops23

  

  bases_loaded;831629 wrote:We have arms in the minors. We don't have a RH slugger. The choice is clear

  
  Agreed. It also easier for a great young pitching prospect to come up and do well right away in the bigs than it is for a great young hitting prospect.
• hoops23

  

  Masterson, White, Pomeranz, Tomlin, Carrasco
  
  Oh. My. God.
• Crimson streak

  

  Just imagine if fausto didn't suck it up this year
• like_that

  

  hoops23;831708 wrote:Masterson, White, Pomeranz, Tomlin, Carrasco
  
  Oh. My. God.

  
  Could be a scary good rotation if one of those guys step up as a true ace. IMO the Tribe has a bunch of #2's.
• Footwedge

  like_that;831715 wrote:Could be a scary good rotation if one of those guys step up as a true ace. IMO the Tribe has a bunch of #2's.

  This whole team is a pile of number 2's.
• Laley23

  

  like_that;831715 wrote:Could be a scary good rotation if one of those guys step up as a true ace. IMO the Tribe has a bunch of #2's.

  
  Yeah, they are all SHIT!
  
  But, if you got 5 #2s, your gonna win the central every year until someone steps up their game lol. Masterson has been fucking brilliant all season as well. Id label him a #1, but not an Ace yet. An Ace, for me, is a step above a #1.
• like_that

  

  Laley23;831727 wrote:Yeah, they are all SHIT!
  
  But, if you got 5 #2s, your gonna win the central every year until someone steps up their game lol. Masterson has been fucking brilliant all season as well. Id label him a #1, but not an Ace yet. An Ace, for me, is a step above a #1.

  
  Yes that is what I am saying. Also wasn't really trying to imply all of the pitchers in the rotation are #2 guys.
• hoops23

  

  I understand what you're saying, however, the Tribe has a few guys who definitely have "Ace" potential.
  
  Masterson has been brilliant this year. His #'s compare very well to the other top pitchers in the AL, and this is with LH batters killing him. When he figures out LH hitters, and he will, because he's already made drastic improvements from his first start last year, he'll be an ace.
  
  Alex White has #1 stuff as well, imo.. However, neither of these guys may have the stuff Pomeranz has. He may be a legit ace, not just a #1.
  
  Tomlin is a #2 or 3 caliber guy, and Carrasco has #1 type stuff, but has lacked the consistency so far. He'd be a scary 3-5 guy in the rotation though.
  
  As Laley said though, 5 #2's would probably dominate the Central, and really, put the Tribe in great position period. Look at what they've done already with 2 stiffs (Talbot and Fausto)... The bullpen is amazing as well, and for the most part, pretty young.
• hoops23

  

  With that said, they all still fucking suck.