NBA Finals: LeBron and the Heat vs. Dirk and the Mavericks

• Ironman92

  

  Gotta move on Lotz...you missed a great pitch....my words just coudnt do it justice and for trying I apologize.
  
  I suck much bad....basically I'm LeBron.
• wes_mantooth

  

  jpake1;797578 wrote:I've always been critical of lebron when warranted, even when some people on here couldn't take it. Trust me, I've never liked lbj. My posts through the past few years show that. So maybe you were speaking of another miami fan? I also give him props when warranted. Frankly, hes playing like a little bitch. The going gets the toughest and he melts down, and at times, seems like he wants the world to see how uninterested he is. His body language is like nothing I've ever seen. I'm predicting theyre done from what I've seen. I'm not counting them out. For as poorly as lbj has played, the great have given up the leads late. There literally one or two plays from lbj on both sides of the ball from winning. Is that too much to ask from the nbas best? Fuck no, just a longshot based on recent performances. I believe in the other heat guys all the way, its lbj that has me doubting my own team.

  
  Dont you just keep waiting for him to get that chip on his shoulder? I would think all the people hating on him will bring that out.
  
  He just seems to content with his pampered life that he has led since he became a media darling at age 14. Doesnt have the killer instinct
• karen lotz

  

  Ironman92;797589 wrote:Gotta move on Lotz...you missed a great pitch....my words just coudnt do it justice and for trying I apologize.
  
  I suck much bad....basically I'm LeBron.

  
  
  lol, maybe I will get on MLBtv and look it up. What day/inning/batter was it again?
• Ironman92

  

  It's too late buddy...HOF already took control of the video.
  
  Much sorry.
• Pick6

  

  I was going to type out a response to you nut huggers defending lebron, but its really not worth my time. Listen to what the only true heat fan on this forum is saying, he's the only one of you who are rooting for the heat that can see it.
• BR1986FB

  jpake1;797578 wrote:I've always been critical of lebron when warranted, even when some people on here couldn't take it. Trust me, I've never liked lbj. My posts through the past few years show that. So maybe you were speaking of another miami fan? I also give him props when warranted. Frankly, hes playing like a little bitch. The going gets the toughest and he melts down, and at times, seems like he wants the world to see how uninterested he is. His body language is like nothing I've ever seen. I'm predicting theyre done from what I've seen. I'm not counting them out. For as poorly as lbj has played, the great have given up the leads late. There literally one or two plays from lbj on both sides of the ball from winning. Is that too much to ask from the nbas best? Fuck no, just a longshot based on recent performances. I believe in the other heat guys all the way, its lbj that has me doubting my own team.

  
  Seems like the "true" (non bandwagon) Heat fans that I know (not that I personally 'know' you...only from your posts) weren't all that thrilled with the addition of Lebron. Most are D-Wade "homers" (in the good sense) and weren't sold on this combination.
  
  My personal belief is that Wade is one of the top 3 "closers" in the NBA. Lebron DOESN'T make that top 3 list. May not even make top 5.
• karen lotz

  

  Ironman92;797598 wrote:It's too late buddy...HOF already took control of the video.
  
  Much sorry.

  
  
  Damn it. Let me know next time Arredondo comes in. Maybe we'll see something similar again.
• BR1986FB

  wes_mantooth;797592 wrote:Dont you just keep waiting for him to get that chip on his shoulder? I would think all the people hating on him will bring that out.
  
  He just seems to content with his pampered life that he has led since he became a media darling at age 14. Doesnt have the killer instinct

  
  Because he's had all of his "enablers" telling him he can "do no wrong" and "he's awesome." I think he's had it brainwashed into him by his handlers that he doesn't NEED to improve where if he put together a low post game and hit more free throws he'd be ridonkulous.
• karen lotz

  

  Pick6;797599 wrote:I was going to type out a response to you nut huggers defending lebron, but its really not worth my time. Listen to what the only true heat fan on this forum is saying, he's the only one of you who are rooting for the heat that can see it.

  
  
  
  I get exactly what jpake is saying. LeBron hasn't been good in late game situations in this series (as well as all of game 4) and the Heat very easily could have won all 5 games if he makes 1 or 2 more plays a game. It also isn't just LeBron who is struggling down the stretch of games. Mavs ended the game on a 15-2 run I think last night, the entire team is bogging down when it matters the most.
• BR1986FB

  karen lotz;797618 wrote:I get exactly what jpake is saying. LeBron hasn't been good in late game situations in this series (as well as all of game 4) and the Heat very easily could have won all 5 games if he makes 1 or 2 more plays a game. It also isn't just LeBron who is struggling down the stretch of games. Mavs ended the game on a 15-2 run I think last night, the entire team is bogging down when it matters the most.

  
  Sounds like both teams could have already won this series.
• karen lotz

  

  BR1986FB;797622 wrote:Sounds like both teams could have already won this series.

  
  
  yep.
• jpake1

  

  He fooled us all at least once in our life. The guy that could have had it all is what they'll say. But he was all talent, no heart nor pride. I'd love to see two games of 28/10/10 to win it all and have him say you mothers fuckers doubted me... Never again. But it won't happen. Listen to his postgames. He thinks hes paying well enough. He thinks he can count on Miller and Chalmers for 7 threes a game. He doesn't get it that the chosen one is held to a higher standard; that he isn't like all the others-- that hes supposed to raise his game to the highest of his ability. You're not like everybody else lebron, youre unique... no matter how badly you want to fit in with all the others. This is your fate, own it.
• enigmaax

  wes_mantooth;797592 wrote:Dont you just keep waiting for him to get that chip on his shoulder? I would think all the people hating on him will bring that out.
  
  He just seems to content with his pampered life that he has led since he became a media darling at age 14. Doesnt have the killer instinct

  
  I've kind of wondered if part of LeBron's problem is that he never had to learn to be "the man" in crunch time because there was never really a crunch time during his formative years. I don't know all of the results, but seems like his high school team mostly blew everyone out. How about his AAU teams? Then, he went directly to the NBA where it seems Cleveland fans were basically just ecstatic to have such a presence and to be back to winning some games - he still didn't have to feel pressure because he could do no wrong. Anything to that?
• wes_mantooth

  

  enigmaax;797636 wrote:I've kind of wondered if part of LeBron's problem is that he never had to learn to be "the man" in crunch time because there was never really a crunch time during his formative years. I don't know all of the results, but seems like his high school team mostly blew everyone out. How about his AAU teams? Then, he went directly to the NBA where it seems Cleveland fans were basically just ecstatic to have such a presence and to be back to winning some games - he still didn't have to feel pressure because he could do no wrong. Anything to that?

  
  Oh, I am sure there is something to that, but his senior year they played a national schedule and had some competitive games. I think that being treated like a god at such a young age made him oblivious to the real world. Everything came so easy to him that he doesnt have the "fight" or "me against the world" in him.
• SportsAndLady

  

  jpake1;797634 wrote:He fooled us all at least once in our life. The guy that could have had it all is what they'll say. But he was all talent, no heart nor pride. I'd love to see two games of 28/10/10 to win it all and have him say you mothers fuckers doubted me... Never again. But it won't happen. Listen to his postgames. He thinks hes paying well enough. He thinks he can count on Miller and Chalmers for 7 threes a game. He doesn't get it that the chosen one is held to a higher standard; that he isn't like all the others-- that hes supposed to raise his game to the highest of his ability. You're not like everybody else lebron, youre unique... no matter how badly you want to fit in with all the others. This is your fate, own it.

  
  +1,000
• killer_ewok

  

  SportsAndLady;797474 wrote:Oh give me a fucking break. I never "make fun" of ND or give their fans shit. I legitimately think that was a fucked up thing, and could not believe no one lost their job over it. Yes, I think either the AD or Kelly should have been canned. It was ridiculous.
  
  Even if I was pulling some sleeper shit, ITS ONE TIME. Karen does it literally every chance he gets to take a shot against a fanbase. It's fucking annoying. I don't even have to be a fan of the team and I think it's annoying.
  
  If you can't see the difference between doing it one time and doing it every chance you get, I don't know what to tell you

  
  You expect me to believe that you actually give a shit about Declan Sullivan and him being remembered and you that you weren't trying to piss off ND fans???
  
  GTFOH
  
  Bottom line-If you can dish it....be able to take it without crying foul.
• BR1986FB

  wes_mantooth;797646 wrote: he doesnt have the "fight" or "me against the world" in him.

  
  And it looks like he STILL has that mentality. Instead of "fighting/me against the world" he decided to form his own AAU Team with Bosh & Wade which is much easier than being "the" guy.
• jpake1

  

  enigmaax;797636 wrote:I've kind of wondered if part of LeBron's problem is that he never had to learn to be "the man" in crunch time because there was never really a crunch time during his formative years. I don't know all of the results, but seems like his high school team mostly blew everyone out. How about his AAU teams? Then, he went directly to the NBA where it seems Cleveland fans were basically just ecstatic to have such a presence and to be back to winning some games - he still didn't have to feel pressure because he could do no wrong. Anything to that?

  I agree. I once wrote a long post referring back to the year they didn't win the hs champ. I remember watching that game. I remember the inmate that played physical with him all game and proved to lebron that he was tough enough to break him down. Since that day, its been his kryptonite. You want to beat lebron james... Out tough him.
• SportsAndLady

  

  killer_ewok;797651 wrote:You expect me to believe that you actually give a shit about Declan Sullivan and him being remembered and you that you weren't trying to piss off ND fans???

  
  Uhhh..I said in my post I said that to get into ND fans' skins? Did you not read it?
• SportsAndLady

  

  killer_ewok;797651 wrote:You expect me to believe that you actually give a shit about Declan Sullivan and him being remembered and you that you weren't trying to piss off ND fans???

  
  Uhhh..I said in my post I said that to get into ND fans' skins? Did you not read it?
• thavoice

  I could look it up but am too lazy.
  
  what was his line in game 5
• BR1986FB

  If this has been posted, my apologies...
  
  http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Sweet-8216-Sick-Dirk-8217-impressions?urn=nba-wp4730
  
  Like Lebron has any room to be mocking anyone after last year's elbow "injury." :rolleyes:
• karen lotz

  

  thavoice;797678 wrote:I could look it up but am too lazy.
  
  what was his line in game 5

  
  
  17/10/10 with a couple blocks, steals, and TO's as well. Not sure on the last 3 categories exactly.
• killer_ewok

  

  SportsAndLady;797667 wrote:Uhhh..I said in my post I said that to get into ND fans' skins? Did you not read it?

  
  I read it. You also said,"It's not like I was trolling, I was stating my opinion."
  
  So, which is it?
• imex99

  

  The just said if u ask lebron fo a dollar he can only give yu 75 cents cause he cant give u the 4th quarter!!