NBA Draft Lottery

• lhslep134

  

  Ty Webb;772884 wrote:Irving has been injury prone going back to HS...
  

  
  PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEE show me where he was injury prone in HS. Once again you're speaking out of your ass and have no freaking idea what you're talking about.
  
  You know the saying "it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth (in this case type) and remove all doubt" ???
  
  Well you continually prove the point of the saying every time you post.
• lhslep134

  

  SportsAndLady;772964 wrote:I thought I heard something about Kyrie's injury being the first time he's had to deal with a serious injury; and it was a freak injury at that.

  
  It was. Gibby's a moron who makes stuff up to try and make himself sound educated about this kind of stuff.
• Iliketurtles

  

  Yesss Gibby does not disapoint again. Another shitty day and gibby is again here with multiple idiotic comments to make me laugh.
• karen lotz

  

  It is Irving's first major injury, but there has been talk that he will have to wear a special shoe for the rest of his career. Whether it will hurt his explosiveness is not really known, and it surely doesn't seem to be enough to think he won't go first in the draft.
• robj55

  

  september63;772692 wrote:Post # 164, and I quickly replied on post # 165.

  
  I meant only from that workout video that he reminded me of BJ, he may play nothing like him, just his physical attributes and the way he moved reminded me a lot of him, BJ is much more athletic than that though from the looks of it.
• september63

  

  robj55;773035 wrote:I meant only from that workout video that he reminded me of BJ, he may play nothing like him, just his physical attributes and the way he moved reminded me a lot of him, BJ is much more athletic than that though from the looks of it.

  
  Once again. If BJ Mullins is more athletic than any big man in this years draft, that player has no business getting drafted in the 1st round then. Is all I'm saying, other than is a stupid comparison.
• karen lotz

  

  Are you saying Mullens isn't athletic? Because that isn't true. He may not have lived up to his hype as a basketball player, but its not because he is an unathletic big man.
• enigmaax

  Cavs fans will be happy to know that LeBron has given his seal of approval to Irving as the #1 pick.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6563293
• SportsAndLady

  

  Who gives a shit about Lebron's seal of approval lol he can shove it up his ass
• devil1197

  enigmaax;773213 wrote:Cavs fans will be happy to know that LeBron has given his seal of approval to Irving as the #1 pick.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=6563293

  
  Great.
  
  I was worried that if LeBron didn't like Irving at #1 that Gilbert wouldn't take him.
• The Boss

  

  SportsAndLady;773225 wrote:Who gives a shit about Lebron's seal of approval lol he can shove it up his ass

  
  Just answering a question he was asked.
• september63

  

  karen lotz;773130 wrote:Are you saying Mullens isn't athletic? Because that isn't true. He may not have lived up to his hype as a basketball player, but its not because he is an unathletic big man.

  
  All Im saying is that BJ Mullins is a bust. He will continue to be a bust and will never get significant minutes for an NBA team. So is he thinking these other 1st round projections are all bust like too?
• SportsAndLady

  

  The Boss;773238 wrote:Just answering a question he was asked.

  
  It shouldn't be "news" though
  
  Especially to Cleveland fans.
• The Boss

  

  SportsAndLady;773283 wrote:It shouldn't be "news" though
  
  Especially to Cleveland fans.

  Agreed. Unfortunately it's the world we live in. He really shouldn't even be asked the question. The media sucks and continues to get worse.
• robj55

  

  september63;773243 wrote:All Im saying is that BJ Mullins is a bust. He will continue to be a bust and will never get significant minutes for an NBA team. So is he thinking these other 1st round projections are all bust like too?

  
  I think the reason he hasn't excelled yet is because of the intangibles or the lack there of, the bball iq. He has all the tools and talent to be a good NBA player. I've never seen Kanter play so I can't judge if he has those intangibles or not, just thought that his skill set looked close to BJ's, with out being as athletic. Bj is a great athlete for his size.
• Skyhook79

  

  The Boss;773238 wrote:Just answering a question he was asked.

  
  If he really cared he would have booked a 1 hour TV special, to "mainly" raise money for kids, and announce his decision on the Cavs drafting Irving #1.
• BR1986FB

  Skyhook79;773313 wrote:If he really cared he would have booked a 1 hour TV special, to "mainly" raise money for kids, and announce his decision on the Cavs drafting Irving #1.

  
  Right after he did this Dos Equis commercial...
  
  
• The Boss

  

  Skyhook79;773313 wrote:If he really cared he would have booked a 1 hour TV special, to "mainly" raise money for kids, and announce his decision on the Cavs drafting Irving #1.

  
  I don't believe he booked it. You have certain obligations when you're a man of his stature, again, unfortunately it's the world we live in.
  
  Why is this yet another thread turning into a conversation about LeBron? Just stop.
• jordo212000

  

  If he really cared he would have booked a 1 hour TV special, to "mainly" raise money for kids, and announce his decision on the Cavs drafting Irving #1.

  
  Right after he did this Dos Equis commercial...
  
  

  I haven't seen that one, but I did the new Ramon Sessions commercial. I think he says "I don't always watch the NBA playoffs, but when I do, I watch them from my living room recliner"
• Y-Town Steelhound

  

  jordo212000;773651 wrote:I haven't seen that one, but I did the new Ramon Sessions commercial. I think he says "I don't always watch the NBA playoffs, but when I do, I watch them from my living room recliner"

  
  I'd get a refund from that comedy school...just sayin'
• KR1245

  

  jordo212000;773651 wrote:I haven't seen that one, but I did the new Ramon Sessions commercial. I think he says "I don't always watch the NBA playoffs, but when I do, I watch them from my living room recliner"

  
  Are you comparing Lebron to Ramon Sessions?
  
  Yeah, you really "hate Lebron".....you defend the dude every chance you get
  
  
  Anyways, I'm starting to like what I hear about Valicinuas, I wouldnt have a problem with the Cavs taking him 4th
• Commander of Awesome

  

  KR1245;773665 wrote:Are you comparing Lebron to Ramon Sessions?
  
  Yeah, you really "hate Lebron".....you defend the dude every chance you get
  
  
  Anyways, I'm starting to like what I hear about Valicinuas, I wouldnt have a problem with the Cavs taking him 4th

  
  Typical of jordo. He's been called out/caught several times for the same bs.
  
  What do you like about Valicinuas? I don't know much about him.
• KR1245

  

  Commander of Awesome;773672 wrote:Typical of jordo. He's been called out/caught several times for the same bs.
  
  What do you like about Valicinuas? I don't know much about him.

  
  I'm basing this off what I have read. It sounds like there are quite a few scouts that think he is the best Euro prospect in the draft and that includes Kanter.
  

  All Valanciunas has done since is continue to improve steadily every time we've seen him. There he was in the U-18 European Championships in Metz in the summer of 2009, going up against arch-rival Enes Kanter in a pair of epic matchups that frequently get mentioned by NBA scouts as pivotal moments in their evaluations. 19.3 points, 10.6 rebounds, 2.6 blocks, on 72% FG and 79% FT were the final tallies in France.

  It seems like the consensus out there is that Kanter is the best Euro in the draft. The point I'm trying to make is that this kid held his own against him. I might take a chance on the kid if Kanter and Williams are gone. I'm not sure what the details of his contract are, I'm sure Gilbert would find a way to get him over here if thats the direction they went in.
• GOONx19

  

  Those stats were for the whole tournament though, not just against Kanter. He has a lot of upside, but...
  
  via DraftExpress:
  

  Valanciunas also gets some opportunities from time to time in post-up situations, an area that he's not nearly as proficient. He lacks the girth to establish deep position inside the paint at the Euroleague level, even if that doesn't stop him from trying.
  
  Against weaker opponents, he can put the ball down once or twice and dig a bit for better position to get his jump hook off (showing nice touch and great extension around the rim), but he doesn't really have the strength to finish through contact against high-level opponents.
  
  He needs to work on his left hand and get quicker and more proficient with his foot-work and counter moves, as he doesn't look terribly natural creating his own shot down low.
  
  Valanciunas is largely untested outside of 15 feet at the moment. He's taken one jumper this season—a surprisingly confident looking 3-pointer with the shot clock running out against Zalgiris. It went in.

  The rest of Valanciunas' game needs refinement, particularly his ball-handling and passing abilities. He turns the ball over at a pretty high rate and definitely has a ways to go in terms of improving his basketball IQ and overall experience level.
  
  The place this seems to show up most is on the defensive end. Valanciunas is a major presence in the paint with his terrific size and length. His mobility helps him out quite a bit as well. He can contest shots around the rim and has good timing for blocking shots, even if he's not what you would call a high-flyer.
  
  With that said, he's not the smartest, most reactive player you'll find right now, especially on the perimeter, which can lead to some poor rotations and open shots for opponents.
  
  Inside the paint, Valanciunas is a frequent target for opposing teams to post up due to his narrow frame and lack of experience, especially in the Euroleague, where almost every team has a bulky old school back-to-the-basket pivot who can simply overpower Valanciunas in one-on-one situations.

  That could be a problem against the much larger matchups he'll have in the League.
  
  He would also get much better weight training over here, though, so it goes both ways. I'm just a little unsure.
• The Boss

  

  ^After reading that there is no way in hell I would take that guy.