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  • Laley23
    Best pitcher in the AL so far?

    James Shields, Jered Weaver or Justin Verlander?

    Close, Josh Beckett
  • birddog23
    Laley23;814087 wrote:Best pitcher in the AL so far?

    James Shields, Jered Weaver or Justin Verlander?

    Close, Josh Beckett
    Verlander

    Halladay


    Weaver
    Shields


    everyone else.


    Verlander is virtually untouchable at this point.
  • Tiger2003
    birddog23;814134 wrote:Verlander

    Halladay


    Weaver
    Shields


    everyone else.


    Verlander is virtually untouchable at this point.

    Halladay?
  • birddog23
    Tiger2003;814171 wrote:Halladay?

    Yeah. Ever heard of the guy?
  • SportsAndLady
    lol
  • karen lotz
    I assume Tiger said that because Halladay hasn't pitched in the AL for a couple of years now.
  • birddog23
    Wow, just re-read Laley's post and saw the "AL". My bad tiger.
  • Laley23
    Verlander is untouchable. But Shields has 3 CG 1 SHO in his last 3 starts. Its very close. Verlander has been dominant for 5 starts, and Shields for 3...but those 3 maybe more than Verlander. Here are Shields last 3 for those who dont know.

    9 innings, no runs versus the Red Sox (who have like 200 runs in June)
    Followed by:
    9 innings, no ER versus the Marlins
    Followed by:
    9 innings, 1 ER versus the Astros
  • birddog23
    Yeah but those 3 teams all are in the bottom half in the MLB in runs scored and hitting. Plus, I have a lot more faith in Verlander. Shields is very inconsistent.
  • Laley23
    birddog23;814197 wrote:Yeah but those 3 teams all are in the bottom half in the MLB in runs scored and hitting. Plus, I have a lot more faith in Verlander. Shields is very inconsistent.

    Sorry, I meant Red Sox not White.
  • Tiger2003
    birddog23;814175 wrote:Yeah. Ever heard of the guy?

    Nope never heard of him.
  • Laley23
    I just dont know if I can concede that either. Im not saying JV isnt better, but it is MUCH closer than anyone in the country is giving credence two.

    JV has given up 3 ER or less in 16/17 starts, Shields in 14/16 starts. Here are the numbers in a breakdown:
    Verlander--------Shields
    3-----------------------2
    3-----------------------5
    2-----------------------2
    3-----------------------1
    3-----------------------0
    3-----------------------1
    0-----------------------1
    1-----------------------2
    3-----------------------3
    6-----------------------0
    0-----------------------3
    2-----------------------7
    1-----------------------3
    0-----------------------0
    1-----------------------0
    0-----------------------1

    Shields has been inconsistent almost his whole career. But it isnt fair to label him that way this season. He has been remarkable.
  • TBone14
    Bucs lead the Texans 14-10. Bottom of the 9th at Reliant Stadium
  • Ironman92
    Bobby Valentine just said Willie Mays got to first bast in 3.4

    I don't believe him.
  • jordo212000
    Bobby Valentine just said Willie Mays got to first bast in 3.4

    I don't believe him.
    I don't believe a lot of things that he says
  • birddog23
    Ironman92;814760 wrote:Bobby Valentine just said Willie Mays got to first bast in 3.4

    I don't believe him.
    I can believe it. It's 30 yards. I can easily see Mays running like 4.2 - 4.4 forty yard dash.
  • Laley23
    birddog23;814784 wrote:I can believe it. It's 30 yards. I can easily see Mays running like 4.2 - 4.4 forty yard dash.

    We are talking about after a swing. So his momentum is not taking him directly to first.More towards SS/3rd.
  • Ironman92
    Drew Stubbs is 3.7 from the right side....would love to see the fastest NFL combine guys swing a bat and get clocked from contact and then do it on dirt opposed to fast field turf...and time the final stride to hit the base in the best place.
  • hoops23
    Anybody see Troy Tulowtizki hit the ball twice in one swing? Never seen that before, ever.

    http://mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16259051
  • Tiger2003
    hoops23;814895 wrote:Anybody see Troy Tulowtizki hit the ball twice in one swing? Never seen that before, ever.

    http://mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16259051

    Ya I saw that. Was pretty impressed he got a single out of it.
  • Ironman92
    Dodgers have 17 hits thru 6 innings
  • karen lotz
    Braves don't have any hits yet. :(
  • karen lotz
    hoops23;814895 wrote:Anybody see Troy Tulowtizki hit the ball twice in one swing? Never seen that before, ever.

    http://mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16259051


    WTF? Someone told me about that yesterday but I forgot to look it up. Doesn't seem possible at all.
  • Ironman92
    Yeah....but fortunately they are still shutting out the Mariners.