Week 14: Cleveland Browns @ Buffalo Bills

• Al Bundy

  wes_mantooth;597813 wrote:sadly, Mangini has no one to blame but himself.

  
  If he is making the decisions on who to start at QB, I agree. With the set up of the organization now, it is hard to know who is responsible for what.
• Blanket

  The 2nd and goal from the 2 in the 1st goal that resulted in a FG was huge factor in this game.
  
  Browns had 187 total yards when Buffalo gives up almost 400 per game.
• grodt

  

  KR1245;597818 wrote:I totally agree. Hes set in his ways and he will lose his job because of it. If he thinks that Jake Delhomme gives this team the best chance to win than he deserves to be fired.

  
  I totally agree with this. I like what Mangini has done so far, but in the end the job of the head coach is to put his team in the best position to win and he's not doing that if he thinks Jake is a better option then Colt
• like_that

  

  KR1245;597818 wrote:I totally agree. Hes set in his ways and he will lose his job because of it. If he thinks that Jake Delhomme gives this team the best chance to win than he deserves to be fired.

  
  I really don't think firing Mangini is the right route to take. Keep him one more year and see what he can do, but give him even less control (i.e. holmgren/lerner/hackert forcing him to bench failhome).
• KR1245

  

  like_that;597826 wrote:I really don't think firing Mangini is the right route to take. Keep him one more year and see what he can do, but give him even less control (i.e. holmgren/lerner/hackert forcing him to bench failhome).

  
  At least get rid of Daboll. That guy is awful
• Blanket

  Mangini cant do anything right.
• BRF

  

  What a disappointment! Now I get to read the insults of like_that's signature.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Blanket;597811 wrote:How close was Hillis when he fumbled on the leap in the 1st half?

  
  The 20 yard line or so.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.
  
  It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.
• IggyPride00

  

  Hillis's fumbling problem is starting to approach the level of Braylon's drops when he was here. He has now put it on the ground 8 times in 13 games. That is just completely unacceptable for a running back in the NFL.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  If Mangini can't put the best guys on the field then he has to go. I've been a supporter of Mangini since last year, but enough is enough. Derek Anderson is better than Jake Delhomme. There is no justification for him playing in an NFL game.
• wes_mantooth

  

  THE4RINGZ;597837 wrote:Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.
  
  It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.

  
  I am fine with Mangini unless he is not putting the best players on the field. Right now...that might be the case. Delhomme would not start for one other club in the NFL except for maybe Arizona.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  THE4RINGZ;597837 wrote:Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.
  
  It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.

  
  Yeah, I can see Gruden coming to a losing team and be an assistant to an imbecile head coach who will keep pitching Jake Delhomme to him.
• ZombieKiller

  THE4RINGZ;597837 wrote:Mangini is building a good football culture. Changing head coaches again sets the team back.
  
  It was discussed on the WKNR pre game show today, keep Mangini as the head coach, hire Gruden as the OC.

  
  Gruden wouldn't lower himself to come to the Browns and be an asst. coach
• like_that

  

  KR1245;597830 wrote:At least get rid of Daboll. That guy is awful

  Oh yeah, his ass should be fired before getting on the plane back to Cleveland.
• IggyPride00

  

  Mangini won't fire Daboll, who should never have been allowed back this year after over seeing the worst offense in the league last year. He falls in love with his guys (like Delhomme) and then refuses to part with them no matter how much it hurts the team. For that he has to go, because it will keep the Browns from ever really taking that next step from Mediocre to legit contender.
• like_that

  

  IggyPride00;597854 wrote:Mangini won't fire Daboll, who should never have been allowed back this year after over seeing the worst offense in the league last year. He falls in love with his guys (like Delhomme) and then refuses to part with them no matter how much it hurts the team. For that he has to go, because it will keep the Browns from ever really taking that next step from Mediocre to legit contender.

  
  Good thing it's not mangini's decision.
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  When all was said and done the better team won.
• Skyhook79

  

  Cleveland Buck;597843 wrote:Yeah, I can see Gruden coming to a losing team and be an assistant to an imbecile head coach who will keep pitching Jake Delhomme to him.

  
  
  
  Welcome to the delusional world of being a Cleveland Browns fan.
• like_that

  

  Skyhook79;597858 wrote:Welcome to the delusional world of being a Cleveland Browns fan.

  
  Nice fail on detecting the sarcasm. Great contribution to this thread though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• Automatik

  

  So I'm guessing after this L, Cleveland is mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?
• BRF

  

  newarkcatholicfan;597857 wrote:When all was said and done the better team won.

  
  And here I was getting prepared for AM. What is up, old pal?
• se-alum

  

  I've supported Mangini as well, but if Seneca Wallace was healthy today, and Delhomme still got the start, it's time for Mangini to go. That's just unacceptable. Let's be honest though, a loss today helps the Browns much more than a win would, in the long run.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Automatik;597871 wrote:So I'm guessing after this L, Cleveland is mathematically eliminated from the playoffs?

  
  I would think so. You pretty much needed 10-6, but no way 8-8 gets you in.
• like_that

  

  This team was not going to the playoffs to begin with.