Official 2011 Nascar thread

• coyotes22

  

  Speedofsand;810267 wrote:Mike Ford (#11 car), Dave Rogers (#18 car) and Greg Zipadelli (#20 car) have been fined $50,000 each and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31. In addition, all three car chiefs Chris Gillin (#11 car), Wesley Sherrill (#18 car) and Jason Shapiro (#20 car) along with Senior Vice President of Racing Operations Jimmy Makar have been placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.
  
  While a standard NASCAR Sprint Cup oil pan weighs about 4 pounds, the three taken off the Gibbs cars weighed an estimated 20-30 pounds apiece.
  
  funny thing is, Hamlin won the race with a normal oil pan.

  
  Am I missing something? What advantage does a weighted oil pan give you? More front downforce?
• Terry_Tate

  

  coyotes22;810308 wrote:Am I missing something? What advantage does a weighted oil pan give you? More front downforce?

  
  Lowers the center of gravity on the car to help with turning would be my guess.
• GoChiefs

  

  Terry_Tate;810312 wrote:Lowers the center of gravity on the car to help with turning would be my guess.

  
  Correct. Lets you displace weight from the rear and put it up front. Which as you said, gives them the turning advantage.
• Tiger2003

  

  I really don't get why the Crew Chiefs are in any trouble but oh well.
• Tiger2003

  

  Also the oil pans only weighed 12-16 pounds. Not 20-30.
• GoChiefs

  

  Tiger2003;810449 wrote:I really don't get why the Crew Chiefs are in any trouble but oh well.

  
  Ummm, because they are responsible for every part that gets put on that car maybe?
• GoChiefs

  

  Tiger2003;810462 wrote:Also the oil pans only weighed 12-16 pounds. Not 20-30.

  
  Not sure where you're getting that. Every report I've seen has them at 20-30. But regardless, that's not the issue. The issue is the fact that they didn't get the part approved by NASCAR before using it. It's not necessarily an illegal part, they just didn't get the proper approval beforehand. Every part on that car has to be approved by NASCAR.
• Tiger2003

  

  Yes I know every part has to be approved but the Car Chief should be the one with the fine not the crew chief. But like I said oh well it's not that big of a deal. Read it earlier on a site. They said it was 3x the allowed weight.
• GoChiefs

  

  Car Chief gets the pieces approved by NASCAR. Crew Chief has a hand on what parts are put on that car.
• Tiger2003

  

  GoChiefs;810805 wrote:Car Chief gets the pieces approved by NASCAR. Crew Chief has a hand on what parts are put on that car.

  
  I know that but if the car chiefs said do it they are at fault. I agree they should all be on probation but thought the fine should be on the car chiefs. Also how was Gibbs not fined? Or did I miss that.
  
  But oh well they weren't ever used and Denny got the win.
  
  Hoping Kurt gets a win soon he is due.
• GoChiefs

  

  Car Chief isn't putting anything on that car that the Crew Chief doesn't want on it. They are both equally at fault.
• Tiger2003

  

  GoChiefs;810953 wrote:Car Chief isn't putting anything on that car that the Crew Chief doesn't want on it. They are both equally at fault.

  
  I know that but I think someone higher up should have been the one who got a fine as well. It not like only one of the Gibbs cars did the oil pan. I love Joe Gibbs but he is the one who had to give the order to get those new oil pans to the track and put in the cars.
• coyotes22

  

  Tiger2003;811073 wrote:I know that but I think someone higher up should have been the one who got a fine as well. It not like only one of the Gibbs cars did the oil pan. I love Joe Gibbs but he is the one who had to give the order to get those new oil pans to the track and put in the cars.

  
  They should just suspend the entire JGR team for 5 races.
  
  
  
• Tiger2003

  

  coyotes22;811074 wrote:They should just suspend the entire JGR team for 5 races.
  
  
  

  
  Come on man.
  
  Then it would be boring with no Kyle.
• coyotes22

  

  Tiger2003;811098 wrote:Come on man.
  
  Then it would be boring with no Kyle.

  
  And safer.
• Tiger2003

  

  coyotes22;811129 wrote:And safer.

  
  Maybe a little but you still got Robby Gordon.
• coyotes22

  

  Tiger2003;811199 wrote:Maybe a little but you still got Robby Gordon.

  
  He only hurts himself. LOL
• Tiger2003

  

  coyotes22;811205 wrote:He only hurts himself. LOL

  
  Lol very true.
  
  Who is excited for some right turns?
• coyotes22

  

  Tiger2003;811322 wrote:Lol very true.
  
  Who is excited for some right turns?

  
  I actually love the road course races. WG more than Sonoma, tho.
• GoChiefs

  

  Tiger2003;811073 wrote:I know that but I think someone higher up should have been the one who got a fine as well. It not like only one of the Gibbs cars did the oil pan. I love Joe Gibbs but he is the one who had to give the order to get those new oil pans to the track and put in the cars.

  
  Someone higher up did get fined. Jimmy Makar. And sorry, but I highly doubt Joe Gibbs personally knew anything about it.
• GoChiefs

  

  Tiger2003;811322 wrote:Who is excited for some right turns?

  
  Luckily, I will be working.
• like_that

  

  Just curious, why is this thread even in the pro sports forum?
• Tiger2003

  

  like_that;811336 wrote:Just curious, did you guys know I like boys?

  
  Yes we did.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  Tiger2003;811345 wrote:Yes we did.

  
  ha nice a gay reference...maybe you violated don't ask don't tell.
• coyotes22

  

  GoChiefs;811333 wrote:Luckily, I will be working.

  
  You guys still swamped then?