Official 2011 Nascar thread

• GoChiefs

  

  WebFire;686026 wrote:COT ruined it for me. The cookie cutter racetracks ruined it for me. The over-commercialization with robot interviews ruined it for me. Nascar's day-to-day rulebook ruined it for me. Sponsors clamoring over the young pretty boys so they can sell their product better ruined it for me.

  That's also taken away the luster for me as well. Everything you have said is a problem in NASCAR. But I've been watching since '89 when I was 8 years old, so it doesn't matter what they do, I'll still watch.
  

  WebFire;686026 wrote:Let the good teams be good. And the bad teams be bad.

  That's where we agree.
  

  WebFire;686026 wrote:You talk about Petty winning all the races, but we have that now with Johnson. So what have they accomplished?

  Actually, Johnson just wins when it matters. If you go back and look, most of his Championship seasons, he didn't even win the most races that season.
• GoChiefs

  

  SQ_Crazies;686039 wrote:I mean if you bust a piston or your block cracks, that's more often than not just bad luck.

  
  Or because the driver keeps over revving the engine and pushing the motor and racing it at to high of rpm's the whole race.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I said more often than not, and more often than not it is just bad parts.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  WebFire;686026 wrote:Let the good teams be good. And the bad teams be bad.

  
  Good example of why you're an idiot...they are.
• WebFire

  SQ_Crazies;686064 wrote:Good example of why you're an idiot...they are.

  
  You are awesome.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Good rebuttal. Am I wrong?
  
  How has Dave Blaney done in the last 5 seasons?
  
  How has Jimmie Johnson done in the last 5 seasons?
  
  Both good drivers, one is on a bad team, one is on a good team.
• WebFire

  Good one!
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Bigger idiot than I thought.
• GoChiefs

  

  SQ_Crazies;686082 wrote:How has Dave Blaney done in the last 5 seasons?
  
  How has Jimmie Johnson done in the last 5 seasons?
  
  Both good drivers, one is on a bad team, one is on a good team.

  
  Don't get me wrong, I like Blaney, but comparing him to a Jimmie Johnson is laughable. No where NEAR each other.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  He's a good driver. He dominated what WebFire seems to call "real racing". I actually used to work for his old sprint car owner. He's on a terrible team.
  
  Basically, look at who drives for what team and the results from every race and you'll see that the good teams are good and the bad teams are bad--it's really pretty simple. This guy is having a hissy fit because a rookie won the Daytona 500. Driving for the Wood Brothers, who obviously can't be a good team--it's not like they've ever had any kind of success before. And it was only the kids 2nd race! How could he win Daytona?! Well, I don't know--how could LeBron have been that good his 1st year in the league? Maybe this kid is the real deal. Gotta start somewhere. Or maybe he just ran a great race--which he did.
• GoChiefs

  

  SQ_Crazies;686100 wrote:He's a good driver. He dominated what WebFire seems to call "real racing". I actually used to work for his old sprint car owner. He's on a terrible team.

  So RCR is a terrible team? He didn't do anything when he was on that team either.
  

  SQ_Crazies;686100 wrote:This guy is having a hissy fit because a rookie won the Daytona 500.

  
  I don't think voicing his opinion is having a 'hissy fit'. I tend to agree with some of his comments. He's not off base on some things, and some of his arguments are valid points. If we all agreed, this would be a boring ass place. I enjoy debating NASCAR with others that have a differing opinion, and that's all we are doing.
• WebFire

  SQ_Crazies;686100 wrote:He's a good driver. He dominated what WebFire seems to call "real racing". I actually used to work for his old sprint car owner. He's on a terrible team.
  
  Basically, look at who drives for what team and the results from every race and you'll see that the good teams are good and the bad teams are bad--it's really pretty simple. This guy is having a hissy fit because a rookie won the Daytona 500. Driving for the Wood Brothers, who obviously can't be a good team--it's not like they've ever had any kind of success before. And it was only the kids 2nd race! How could he win Daytona?! Well, I don't know--how could LeBron have been that good his 1st year in the league? Maybe this kid is the real deal. Gotta start somewhere. Or maybe he just ran a great race--which he did.

  
  You're being a fucking prick and apparently haven't read or comprehended what I am saying.
• WebFire

  FYI, I was actually glad to see the Wood Brothers car back in victory lane. You probably aren't old enough to remember the last time. I have nothing against the kid.
• GoChiefs

  

  WebFire;686153 wrote:You probably aren't old enough to remember the last time.

  
  Come on! 2001 wasn't THAT long ago! Lol
• WebFire

  GoChiefs;686164 wrote:Come on! 2001 wasn't THAT long ago! Lol

  Damn, forgot about Elliot.
• GoChiefs

  

  WebFire;686209 wrote:Damn, forgot about Elliot.

  
  You weren't the only one. Did you catch DW at the end yesterday say it was the Woods Brothers first win since Buddy Baker? What about Kyle Petty, Dale Jarrett, Elliot Sadler, and Morgan Shepard? Guess their victories don't count either? LOL
• GoChiefs

  

  The points standings after Week 1:
  
  1 -- Carl Edwards Leader
  2 -- David Gilliland -1
  3 -- Bobby Labonte -1
  4 -- Kurt Busch -2
  5 -- Juan Montoya -3
  6 -- Regan Smith -4
  7 -- Kyle Busch -5
  8 -- Paul Menard -6
  9 -- Mark Martin -8
  10 -- A.J. Allmendinger -8
  11 -- Bill Elliott -10
  12 -- Tony Stewart -11
  13 -- David Ragan -11
  14 -- Terry Labonte -12
  15 -- Robby Gordon -13
  16 -- Clint Bowyer -14
  17 -- Jamie McMurray -15
  18 -- Martin Truex Jr. -16
  19 -- Denny Hamlin -18
  20 -- Ryan Newman -18
  21 -- Joey Logano -21
  22 -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. -21
  23 -- Kasey Kahne -23
  24 -- Dave Blaney -23
  25 -- Jimmie Johnson -25
  26 -- Jeff Gordon -25
  27 -- Brad Keselowski -26
  28 -- David Reutimann -28
  29 -- Brian Vickers -29
  30 -- Andy Lally* -31
  31 -- Matt Kenseth -32
  32 -- Greg Biffle -33
  33 -- Jeff Burton -33
  34 -- Marcos Ambrose -35
  35 -- Michael Waltrip -38
  36 -- Brian Keselowski* -39
  37 -- Kevin Harvick -39
  38 -- J.J. Yeley -41
  39 -- Trevor Bayne -42
  40 -- Steve Wallace -42
  41 -- Travis Kvapil -42
  42 -- Robert Richardson Jr. -42
  43 -- Joe Nemechek -42
• Gardens35

  Didn't care much for the racing, happy for the kid, was hoping that #47 would take it, like the point system.
• Speedofsand

  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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• Speedofsand

  

  I was in the fanzone at the start of the 500
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  truck race and full moon = MW wins 10 years after
  
  
• Speedofsand

  

  Brad Paisley was popular
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Nascar Hall of Fame Class of 2011. These guys are from the days when the driver mattered.
  
  
  
  Bobby Labonte
  
• Gardens35

  Once again, appreciate you posting those pics!
• Speedofsand

  

  Thanks. Props to Mark Martin fighting back from 3 laps down to be right in it at the white flag. Great race.
  
  
  http://www.fordracing.com/news/detail/?article=38936
  Wood Brothers
  
  “Two years ago, I didn’t have a ride. I sat out six months. I raced one Hooters Pro Cup race that year for my dad’s race team. He always brought me up through the Allison Legacy Series and go-karts and then got me to Hooters Pro Cup and I ran for him, and then I drove for DEI. At the end of my season when I was 17, we lost our funding at DEI. That was the frenzy year, so I sat out for six months and waited on something to happen.
  
  “This was two years ago and I met a lady by the name of Danielle Randell Bower, who introduced me to Gary Bechtel and his son, who then went with me to MWR and they formed that partnership there, so I started driving for them and that’s what gave me my spark into NASCAR to show everybody we can do it. Last year, when we made the transition to Roush Fenway, Jack was quick to pick up on us and believe in us and then the Wood Brothers the same thing.
• Speedofsand

  

  The car is a Roush chassis. Richard Petty is listed as owner because of the loophole in selling teams and owner's pts.