Worst fan bases in sports are bandwagon fans..and just love for us Cleveland fans!

• gorocks99

  

  LOLZ comparing sports fandom to life. It's entertainment, people. Very little reason to get riled up. If other people want to be jackasses about who they root for, that's their problem.
• lhslep134

  

  gorocks99;441433 wrote:LOLZ comparing sports fandom to life. It's entertainment, people. Very little reason to get riled up. If other people want to be jackasses about who they root for, that's their problem.

  
  I agree that there's no reason to get riled up, but sports is more than entertainment nowadays, it has real life implications (financially speaking only of course).
• like_that

  

  lhslep134;441430 wrote:It's an even bigger joke that you spent time writing that entire post, and an EVEN BIGGER JOKE THAT YOU CARE about other people's teams that they root for.

  
  I didn't realize how long it was until i posted, but were you too "blazed" to read the whole thing, or you never passed 5th grade reading, and you don't understand how to read passages longer than 4 lines? I really dont care that much what teams people root for. If they are bandwagon fans they lose all credibility to me and i just stop listening to them. I was just giving my 2 cents on why people dont respect bandwagon fans.
• gorocks99

  

  lhslep134;441437 wrote:I agree that there's no reason to get riled up, but sports is more than entertainment nowadays, it has real life implications (financially speaking only of course).

  
  I guess if you work for a team/bet on a team/own a business connected to a team (restaurant by the stadium, for example). 95% of us though are fans for entertainment purposes.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  lhslep134;441430 wrote:It's an even bigger joke that you spent time writing that entire post, and an EVEN BIGGER JOKE THAT YOU CARE about other people's teams that they root for.

  
  WHY DO YOU CARE THAT WE CARE?!?!?!11111
• like_that

  

  gorocks99;441443 wrote:I guess if you work for a team/bet on a team/own a business connected to a team (restaurant by the stadium, for example). 95% of us though are fans for entertainment purposes.

  
  The whole population of Spain (and all other WC countries) disagrees with you.
• lhslep134

  

  like_that;441439 wrote:I didn't realize how long it was until i posted, but were you too "blazed" to read the whole thing, or you never passed 5th grade reading, and you don't understand how to read passages longer than 4 lines? I really dont care that much what teams people root for. If they are bandwagon fans they lose all credibility to me and i just stop listening to them. I was just giving my 2 cents on why people dont respect bandwagon fans.

  
  HA of course the irrelevant comeback.
  
  I would tend to believe I passed 5th grade reading, and I'm also willing to bet I'm much more intelligent than you'll ever be judging by my standardized test and LSAT scores.
  
  Not that intelligence matters in this debate, I just find it silly that you care about other people's fandoms.
• lhslep134

  

  gorocks99;441443 wrote:I guess if you work for a team/bet on a team/own a business connected to a team (restaurant by the stadium, for example). 95% of us though are fans for entertainment purposes.

  
  True that, but you also have to look at more economic factors than just those immediately surrounding the stadium. I wish I could remember more from my Econ 583 (Sports in Economics) class, but the point of my post is that it's a lot more impactful than most people think.
• lhslep134

  

  Commander of Awesome;441447 wrote:WHY DO YOU CARE THAT WE CARE?!?!?!11111

  
  Because it's fun to point and laugh at idiots like you. Duh.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  gorocks99;441443 wrote:I guess if you work for a team/bet on a team/own a business connected to a team (restaurant by the stadium, for example). 95% of us though are fans for entertainment purposes.

  
  If that were true, then the whole city of Boston wouldn't have gone nuts after the 04 world series... you should know that.
  Also cities "waste" tax money on parades and the likes for championship teams. Sorry, sports is bit different than going ot the park or seeing a movie (ie forms of entertainment). Nice try though.
• gorocks99

  

  Did Spain REALLY get an economic boost b/c of winning the WC? I mean, I suppose consumer spending saw a jump but in the long run I'm not sure it helped the country all that much.
• gorocks99

  

  Commander of Awesome;441463 wrote:If that were true, then the whole city of Boston wouldn't have gone nuts after the 04 world series... you should know that.
  Also cities "waste" tax money on parades and the likes for championship teams. Sorry, sports is bit different than going ot the park or seeing a movie (ie forms of entertainment). Nice try though.

  
  Are you a fan b/c the city spends tax money on the team, or are you a fan for entertainment purposes? I guess that's the question I'm trying to answer. Yes, sports teams have economic impacts (the same as theme parks, museums, and other attractions have economic impacts) but I'd wager most people aren't fans solely because of it. If they were, people would always root for the local team (and it would change every time they moved to a new city).
• lhslep134

  

  gorocks99;441468 wrote:Did Spain REALLY get an economic boost b/c of winning the WC? I mean, I suppose consumer spending saw a jump but in the long run I'm not sure it helped the country all that much.

  
  Well I don't think sports will affect a national economy, it certainly will affect a local economy.
  
  I know you probably don't care about doing this, but there's some great online information about the impact of sports on economies, I had to look up information for a term paper I wrote about the economic implications of a Super Bowl on the host city and the 2 teams involved.
  
  
  
  Edit: and gorocks, you're a fan for entertainment purposes, of course.
• like_that

  

  lhslep134;441455 wrote:HA of course the irrelevant comeback.
  
  I would tend to believe I passed 5th grade reading, and I'm also willing to bet I'm much more intelligent than you'll ever be judging by my standardized test and LSAT scores.
  
  Not that intelligence matters in this debate, I just find it silly that you care about other people's fandoms.

  And yet you respond with an irrelevant comeback yourself lol. My response at least went back to topic with bandwagon fans. Good job referencing the LSAT and standardized tests. Are you trying to make this a pissing match between standardized tests. Am I going to have to post my GMAT score?!?!??! And if you actually read my whole post without getting all flustered because of my blazing comment, I stated I really don't care, i just don' respect them, and i was giving my 2 cents on why most people don't. I am done though. I got my 2 cents in, and it obviously struck a nerve. Keep acting like you "don't care."
• like_that

  

  gorocks99;441468 wrote:Did Spain REALLY get an economic boost b/c of winning the WC? I mean, I suppose consumer spending saw a jump but in the long run I'm not sure it helped the country all that much.

  
  No, but the country has a great sense of pride now. If you don't think that means anything, then I don't know what else I can say. Sorry I did say i was done with this topic, but i wanted to respond to this. I am officially done. I still think its funny this thread came up after it was buried in early July.
• thedynasty1998

  

  I hope everyone was listening to Cowherd today. He was basically talking about this topic after Forbes released a list of the best fans. I usually agree with most things Cowherd says, and I couldn't have agreed more with his stance on fandom.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Forbes article on best fans:
  http://www.forbes.com/2010/08/02/best-fans-teams-lifestyle-sports-fandom.html
  
  Regarding Cleveland:
  

  ans of the Cleveland Cavaliers have been through a lot in recent weeks, but there's good news; they still rank among the best fans in the country, coming in at No. 13. Of course, all of the data we used is year-to-date, when LeBron James was still a member of the team.
  
  You might assume that since "King James" left to play for the Miami Heat, the Cavaliers' popularity might tank--if nothing else, they may not win as many games. But so far fans have seemed to make the defection a rallying point. Last week it was reported that a group of little girls was selling lemonade to help team owner Dan Gilbert pay off a $100,000 fine, incurred by the NBA for his rant about LeBron leaving town.

• ernest_t_bass

  

  Based on a lot of these definitions, I'm a bandwagon fan. My blood doesn't bleed the colors of each of my teams (except red for the Reds and Buckeyes). I have a life. I'm just fine rooting my team on (good or bad) and on to the next season. I don't have to delve into every aspect of the team, their decisions, etc. I have no say in it, so why should I invest so much of my interest? The funny thing to me are the people who invest so much of their lives into a sports team b/c in reality, you don't mean shit. You're just another fan, whether you're die hard or "bandwagon."
  
  Dolphins - Want them to win, but stuck by them when they almost went "defeated" for the season. They win it all... SWEET! They lose it all... Bring on baseball!
  
  Reds - See above.
  
  NBA - The most "business" of any of them, with the most prima donna's out there. I watch, I don't root. After seeing how Cavs "fans" have reacted to LeBron, it solidifies my reasoning to not root for anyone.
  
  Buckeyes - My blood bleeds scarlet, but I won't shed any tears over a sports loss.
  
  I'm going to go ahead and devote my time to God, my wife, children, and career. You go ahead and be a fanatic. I'm truly OK with that. Can you be OK with me?
  
  I'm a bandwagon fan.
  
  Judge me.
• lhslep134

  

  like_that;441478 wrote:And yet you respond with an irrelevant comeback yourself lol. My response at least went back to topic with bandwagon fans. Good job referencing the LSAT and standardized tests. Are you trying to make this a pissing match between standardized tests. Am I going to have to post my GMAT score?!?!??! And if you actually read my whole post without getting all flustered because of my blazing comment, I stated I really don't care, i just don' respect them, and i was giving my 2 cents on why most people don't. I am done though. I got my 2 cents in, and it obviously struck a nerve. Keep acting like you "don't care."

  
  
  I never said the words "don't care", I just think it's retarded for people to question someone's allegiance.
  
  
  And go ahead, post your GMAT score. I scored a 720 on my diagnostic GMAT and I have no doubt that I'd score higher if I prepared for it at all. And before you see my high score and lie and say that yours was higher (mine was 94th percentile I doubt you did better), I wasn't pissed off at the stoner comment, I couldn't care less that you think I'm a "stoner", but you called into question my intelligence with the 5th grade comment when I know for a fact my intelligence surpasses yours.
  
  
  
  For the record, there's a huge difference between liking a team, and being a dick about it. People who just became Yankees fans last year I have no problem with, if they're not cocky and arrogant about it. I like Florida but I'm not cocky and arrogant about it. People just give me a hard time anyways and I ignore it.
• enigmaax

  ernest_t_bass;441584 wrote:The funny thing to me are the people who invest so much of their lives into a sports team b/c in reality, you don't mean shit. You're just another fan, whether you're die hard or "bandwagon."

  
  Right on. Thats the part I try to understand. I guess, if it justifies someones self-worth to feel like a "real" fan, good for them. I've like some teams for many, many years. Others, I've jumped around from time to time. Time and money are way too important to me to waste my entertainment budget (of both) on things that don't entertain me. The logo on a jersey doesn't make the sport. The people playing, coaching, etc. determine whether I want to invest. I guess that is frontrunning or whatever and so I'm not as great of a fan for being such. Okay. But what return do you get for your noble loyalty? You get refunds or discounts for wasting your money when the team is bad? You get invited to hang out in a luxury box just because you had the cheap seat season tickets when they were 1-15?
  
  The one explanation I've heard before is that if you've stuck with a team for so long, then it is that much sweeter when they finally win something. And you feel like a part of it. Hmm, I love being emotionally involved in sports, but outside of some affiliation (like you work for them or play or have a friend/relative that plays, etc.), I've got things like a family and friends and job and responsibilities that I am "a part of". Those things kind of keep sports in perspective - its a temporary outlet, not an element of the definition of my character.
  
  Nobody on "your" team is going to know or care if you change allegiances. So if you are insignificant, you can't make too much out of "loyalty".
• GoPens

  

  Is Commander fson/bbmind from that other minor league site?
• thedynasty1998

  

  GoPens;441782 wrote:Is Commander fson/bbmind from that other minor league site?

  
  Just look him up on facebook. That's what he does to people on here. BTW, I think he's SQ Crazies, the guy who everyone made fun of so he made a big to leave, but just had to come back.
• Mohican00

  

  And go ahead, post your GMAT score. I scored a 720 on my diagnostic GMAT and I have no doubt that I'd score higher if I prepared for it at all. And before you see my high score and lie and say that yours was higher (mine was 94th percentile I doubt you did better),

  Arguing graduate admissions test scores on a sports forum??? you've gotta be shitting me
• GoChiefs

  

  thedynasty1998;441793 wrote:BTW, I think he's SQ Crazies

  
  As much as he enjoys arguing, that thought also crossed my mind.
• georgemc80

  ^ +1