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devil1197

I am sorry Foot, but you need to back off on saying you know all concerning the Cavaliers.

1) Yes, you have finally admitted that you were wrong on Jamison but it took how long? You were so adamantly against the trade it wasn't even funny.

2) Everyone that watches the NBA and pays attention knows that Mo Williams needs to score to be successful. There is a reason that they state Cleveland is such and such record with Mo scoring 20 or more in games. You definitely weren't the first guy to mention it and you will not be the last. So please get off your high horse about that point.

3) Shaq is working out so far. Last time I checked Cleveland is 1-0 in the EC Semi's and he put in 11 points last night, played tough defense in the paint, and got the Boston bigs in foul trouble even though he was too. Whenever you can get 10+ points from Shaq in the 2nd half and hitting a few FT's down the stretch, I won't complain at all. Plus, he could have scored 0 points with putting Rondo on his ass!

Parker didn't have the offensive game, but his defense in the 2nd half and overall game was solid. Once again Cleveland got good bench production (26-12 against Boston). JJ provided some good offense, but his defense lacked something last night. West provided good points in the 1st half also.

Overall, it was a good Game 1.

Rotinaj

SQ_Crazies wrote: To all the people who doubted Mo early on:

A big ole FUCK YOU.

Seriously?? Rondo blew by him every possession in the first half. It wasnt an over reaction if people were saying Mo blew DONKEY BALLS in the first half(on D) because he did. He stepped up his game HUGE in the 3rd and is the reason we won IMO. And as someone said Rondo isnt going to be able to shoot that well again, Mo will also not be able to bail us out with what 14?? straight points again.

wes_mantooth

I def think that Parker has to be on Rondo. We don't have anyone that can keep up with him, so we need his length to help neutralize Rondo some. I didn't get to watch any of the game....I was in the ghettos of Wheeling, but Rondo getting into the lane...is what makes Boston go now.

Footwedge

devil1197 wrote: I am sorry Foot, but you need to back off on saying you know all concerning the Cavaliers.

1) Yes, you have finally admitted that you were wrong on Jamison but it took how long? You were so adamantly against the trade it wasn't even funny.

2) Everyone that watches the NBA and pays attention knows that Mo Williams needs to score to be successful. There is a reason that they state Cleveland is such and such record with Mo scoring 20 or more in games. You definitely weren't the first guy to mention it and you will not be the last. So please get off your high horse about that point.

3) Shaq is working out so far. Last time I checked Cleveland is 1-0 in the EC Semi's and he put in 11 points last night, played tough defense in the paint, and got the Boston bigs in foul trouble even though he was too. Whenever you can get 10+ points from Shaq in the 2nd half and hitting a few FT's down the stretch, I won't complain at all. Plus, he could have scored 0 points with putting Rondo on his ass!

Parker didn't have the offensive game, but his defense in the 2nd half and overall game was solid. Once again Cleveland got good bench production (26-12 against Boston). JJ provided some good offense, but his defense lacked something last night. West provided good points in the 1st half also.

Overall, it was a good Game 1.

Not gonna get into a pissing match again with you. You think that you're the the coach and GM all rolled into one.

Shaq hurts this team with his high turnover rates and his inabilty to stop penetration. He's too damn slow. He was pathetic in the first quarter and was the primary reason the team fell 10 points behind.

In the second half he played better, but him helping LBJ on a double team was as bad as it gets. It led to a Perkins wide open layup.

When Hickson and Andy are on the court, the team is very tough to beat. Having to slow the pace down hurts the team. Dumping down to Shaq is not what this team needs....and will never work against the Magic.

bulldog8

Some of you Cavs fans need to come back down to reality. Humble pie needs to be passed out all around on this forum.

Footwedge

Rotinaj wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: To all the people who doubted Mo early on:

A big ole FUCK YOU.
Seriously?? Rondo blew by him every possession in the first half. It wasnt an over reaction if people were saying Mo blew DONKEY BALLS in the first half(on D) because he did. He stepped up his game HUGE in the 3rd and is the reason we won IMO. And as someone said Rondo isnt going to be able to shoot that well again, Mo will also not be able to bail us out with what 14?? straight points again.

Rondo blows by everybody in the league...it's what he does. He blew by Parker as well...jist not as often. But when he did (against Parker) weak side and backside reacted and helped. You didn't have that in the first half with Shaq or Z on the court.

The Cavs outscored Boston by 12 points in the 3rd....highlighted by Mo's outburst, a few steals by Parker, and great backside help defense on Rondo.

Footwedge

bulldog8 wrote: Some of you Cavs fans need to come back down to reality. Humble pie needs to be passed out all around on this forum.

This is an Ohio sports forum. The city of Cleveland hasn't celebrated a title in 46 years. There's niothing wrong in being excited over this Cav team.

Instead of hangin out here, how about going out and watch the Wild Things play.

devil1197

Shaq coming to help and Perkins getting a wide open layup was due to no help defense rotation at all.

Maybe you should tell Hickson to hustle his ass back down the court and not get beat by his guy in transition for an easy lay up.

Facts are that guys will make mistakes during the games, but its people like you that blow them out of proportion. Shaq is going to be a main player for Cleveland in the playoffs, they just don't feed him the ball for nothing. You cannot play uptempo all the time during games, you just cannot do it. His high turnover rate, what his 1 last night? Shaq played very well last night in the 2nd half, no way around it he stepped up when Cleveland needed him too. Shaq played 20 minutes last night and that was with him in foul trouble. Your prediction of 18 mpg is fading fast, he would have had 25-30 mpg last night imo.

I am not acting like no GM or anything. I've never stated, unlike you, to know more than people have forgotten.

bulldog8

Footwedge wrote:
bulldog8 wrote: Some of you Cavs fans need to come back down to reality. Humble pie needs to be passed out all around on this forum.
This is an Ohio sports forum. The city of Cleveland hasn't celebrated a title in 46 years. There's niothing wrong in being excited over this Cav team.

Instead of hangin out here, how about going out and watch the Wild Things play.

Man I didn't know that not winning a title in 46 years gives you the right to be disrespectful to others on this forum. Yes, you have the right to be excited, but some of the Cavs supporters on here are just flat out nasty with their remarks to others. I don't care how good your team is, being humble and respectful shouldn't take any effort.

By the way, who would go watch the Wild Things anyways? If I wanted to go watch baseball, i'd go to PNC and at least see a professional game in a nice stadium for a ticket price that is about the same as the Wild Things. I'm a college student here in Washington (which isn't even my hometown), so you better come up with something a lot more creative than the Wild Things - i'm just so distraught with what you said

I can't believe you would go and say something bad about a farm club team that has so much meaning in my life.

Footwedge

devil1197 wrote: Shaq coming to help and Perkins getting a wide open layup was due to no help defense rotation at all.

Maybe you should tell Hickson to hustle his ass back down the court and not get beat by his guy in transition for an easy lay up.

Facts are that guys will make mistakes during the games, but its people like you that blow them out of proportion. Shaq is going to be a main player for Cleveland in the playoffs, they just don't feed him the ball for nothing. You cannot play uptempo all the time during games, you just cannot do it. His high turnover rate, what his 1 last night? Shaq played very well last night in the 2nd half, no way around it he stepped up when Cleveland needed him too.

I am not acting like no GM or anything. I've never stated, unlike you, to know more than people have forgotten.

You act as if your in the goddam contract talks the players and phone conversations with Ferry with all the trsdes. Nodody really gives a shit what you think anyway.

You're always the first to bring up Jamison whenever I prove you wrong on another aspect. So typical of you.

As for Shaq's blunder...it's not too often when LBJ rips a teammate for scewing up so bad. Well he let Shaq have it after that play. Had nothing to do with "poor rotation". Had to do with with doubling LeBron's man...not needed.

Now go ahead and tell me how great Shaq was yesterday...Or..."but what about Jamison"....blah...blah...blah.

sleeper

I don't care how good your team is, being humble and respectful shouldn't take any effort.

Fuck you.

wes_mantooth

bulldog8 wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
bulldog8 wrote: Some of you Cavs fans need to come back down to reality. Humble pie needs to be passed out all around on this forum.
This is an Ohio sports forum. The city of Cleveland hasn't celebrated a title in 46 years. There's niothing wrong in being excited over this Cav team.

Instead of hangin out here, how about going out and watch the Wild Things play.
Man I didn't know that not winning a title in 46 years gives you the right to be disrespectful to others on the huddle. Yes, you have the right to be excited, but some of the Cavs supporters on here are just flat out nasty with their remarks to others. I don't care how good your team is, being humble and respectful shouldn't take any effort.

By the way, who would go watch the Wild Things anyways? If I wanted to go watch baseball, i'd go to PNC and at least see a professional game in a nice stadium for a ticket price that is about the same as the Wild Things. I'm a college student here in Washington (which isn't even my hometown), so you better come up with something a lot more creative than the Wild Things - i'm just so distraught with what you said I can't believe you would go and say something bad about farm club team that has so much meaning in my life.

As a college student there...you should def watch Wild Thing games....on Thursday.

($1 beer)

Footwedge

bulldog8 wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
bulldog8 wrote: Some of you Cavs fans need to come back down to reality. Humble pie needs to be passed out all around on this forum.
This is an Ohio sports forum. The city of Cleveland hasn't celebrated a title in 46 years. There's niothing wrong in being excited over this Cav team.

Instead of hangin out here, how about going out and watch the Wild Things play.
Man I didn't know that not winning a title in 46 years gives you the right to be disrespectful to others on the huddle. Yes, you have the right to be excited, but some of the Cavs supporters on here are just flat out nasty with their remarks to others. I don't care how good your team is, being humble and respectful shouldn't take any effort.

By the way, who would go watch the Wild Things anyways? If I wanted to go watch baseball, i'd go to PNC and at least see a professional game in a nice stadium for a ticket price that is about the same as the Wild Things. I'm a college student here in Washington (which isn't even my hometown), so you better come up with something a lot more creative than the Wild Things - i'm just so distraught with what you said I can't believe you would go and say something bad about farm club team that has so much meaning in my life.

Who disparaged the Wild Things? Not me. And if I were you. I would much rather watch the minor league team within walking distance as opposed to driving 50 minutes and paying big "bucs" (pun intended) to watch a different minor league team play.

devil1197

When have you ever proven me wrong? Please, this should be entertaining. I don't talk a tough game like you do, I don't make wild premature predictions like you do. I am not stupid to set myself up for a huge failure that you have. I observed Jamison put up solid numbers against our own Cavs in the playoffs multiple times. I observed him being the true professional on a team full of idiots. I observed his intensity to win. Its ridiculous to think that he wouldn't be a solid contributor to Cleveland this season.

I am pretty sure that no one gives a shit what you say, you have it the other way around. You're the poster that is stating that you know more than anyone, but yet you've been wrong more than right lately.

But keep talking and making dumbass predictions. Right now you're 0-2 with Jamison and Shaq not playing major minutes. What is your next prediction going to be?

Actually, I am done with you for now. I'll let the players prove wrong your posts. It will be nice to just sit and not argue, but know that I was right in the end and you were wrong.

Footwedge

wes_mantooth wrote: As a college student there...you should def watch Wild Thing games....on Thursday.($1 beer)

Exactly.

se-alum

Footwedge wrote:
devil1197 wrote: Shaq coming to help and Perkins getting a wide open layup was due to no help defense rotation at all.

Maybe you should tell Hickson to hustle his ass back down the court and not get beat by his guy in transition for an easy lay up.

Facts are that guys will make mistakes during the games, but its people like you that blow them out of proportion. Shaq is going to be a main player for Cleveland in the playoffs, they just don't feed him the ball for nothing. You cannot play uptempo all the time during games, you just cannot do it. His high turnover rate, what his 1 last night? Shaq played very well last night in the 2nd half, no way around it he stepped up when Cleveland needed him too.

I am not acting like no GM or anything. I've never stated, unlike you, to know more than people have forgotten.
You act as if your in the goddam contract talks the players and phone conversations with Ferry with all the trsdes. Nodody really gives a shit what you think anyway.

You're always the first to bring up Jamison whenever I prove you wrong on another aspect. So typical of you.

As for Shaq's blunder...it's not too often when LBJ rips a teammate for scewing up so bad. Well he let Shaq have it after that play. Had nothing to do with "poor rotation". Had to do with with doubling LeBron's man...not needed.

Now go ahead and tell me how great Shaq was yesterday...Or..."but what about Jamison"....blah...blah...blah.

I'm pretty sure it was Jamison that Shaq came over to help that allowed Perkins a wide open layup.

Footwedge

devil1197 wrote: When have you ever proven me wrong? Please, this should be entertaining. I don't talk a tough game like you do, I don't make wild premature predictions like you do.

I am pretty sure that no one gives a shit what you say, you have it the other way around. You're the poster that is stating that you know more than anyone, but yet you've been wrong more than right lately.

But keep talking and making dumbass predictions. Right now you're 0-2 with Jamison and Shaq not playing major minutes.

I like making predictions. It's fun. Sometimes I'm right...sometimes I'm wrong.

I proved to you that last year's cav team was better than this year's team. It's not an opinion..it is a fact. I proved that the cavs were much better than Orlando last year, but were victims of a huge upset. That's not an opinion, but a fact.

Unlike you, I provided the empiracal data supporting my claims. The best team does not always win...apparently a true phenomena that you can't seem to comprehend.

The next series will see the cavs as a small favorite (Maybe 3 to 2) to advance to the finals. Compare that to last year when the Cavs were a whopping 6-1 favorites to dispose of the Magic.

I'm hoping the Cavs win it all and they are quite capable of doing so. But if Brownie insists on playing Shaq big minutes, our chances are greatly reduced. Now this last statement is my opinion which I base completely on what I've obseved and the numbers shaq has put up.

ytownfootball

I'm pretty sure it was Jamison that Shaq came over to help that allowed Perkins a wide open layup.

No, Shaq collapsed on that one, Jamison let him know that he's got it out at 15 feet.

Footwedge

se-alum wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was Jamison that Shaq came over to help that allowed Perkins a wide open layup.

The announcers claimed it was LBJ. Doesn't change the fact that Shaq gave away an uncontested layup either way.

devil1197

Haha, you didn't prove anything. How can you state that last year's team was better than this year's team when this season isn't even over yet? You'll once again be proved wrong if Cleveland wins just the ECC, not even the NBA Title just the ECC.

There is no upsets when Orlando had more W's against Cleveland in the regular season than L's. Sorry bud, that's all the empirical data that I need to know that Orlando had better mis matches against Cleveland last year.

Twisting any data to fit your opinions doesn't make your opinions correct. People have told you that before.

devil1197

Footwedge wrote:
se-alum wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was Jamison that Shaq came over to help that allowed Perkins a wide open layup.
The announcers claimed it was LBJ. Doesn't change the fact that Shaq gave away an uncontested layup either way.

Just like JJ did when he didn't get his ass back on transition D.

Face it, Shaq is going to play major minutes and be a major component to Cleveland's title this season imo.

bulldog8

sleeper wrote:
I don't care how good your team is, being humble and respectful shouldn't take any effort.
Fuck you.

Another troll speaks.

bulldog8

Footwedge wrote:
bulldog8 wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
bulldog8 wrote: Some of you Cavs fans need to come back down to reality. Humble pie needs to be passed out all around on this forum.
This is an Ohio sports forum. The city of Cleveland hasn't celebrated a title in 46 years. There's niothing wrong in being excited over this Cav team.

Instead of hangin out here, how about going out and watch the Wild Things play.
Man I didn't know that not winning a title in 46 years gives you the right to be disrespectful to others on the huddle. Yes, you have the right to be excited, but some of the Cavs supporters on here are just flat out nasty with their remarks to others. I don't care how good your team is, being humble and respectful shouldn't take any effort.

By the way, who would go watch the Wild Things anyways? If I wanted to go watch baseball, i'd go to PNC and at least see a professional game in a nice stadium for a ticket price that is about the same as the Wild Things. I'm a college student here in Washington (which isn't even my hometown), so you better come up with something a lot more creative than the Wild Things - i'm just so distraught with what you said I can't believe you would go and say something bad about farm club team that has so much meaning in my life.
Who disparaged the Wild Things? Not me. And if I were you. I would much rather watch the minor league team within walking distance as opposed to driving 50 minutes and paying big "bucs" (pun intended) to watch a different minor league team play.

Right now, watching the Pens takes priority over baseball (Wild Things and Pirates) as well as the NBA. I agree that the $1 beer night is a plus, but until hockey season is over, it's tough to make it up to any Wild Things games

Footwedge

devil1197 wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
se-alum wrote:
I'm pretty sure it was Jamison that Shaq came over to help that allowed Perkins a wide open layup.
The announcers claimed it was LBJ. Doesn't change the fact that Shaq gave away an uncontested layup either way.
Just like JJ did when he didn't get his ass back on transition D.

Face it, Shaq is going to play major minutes and be a major component to Cleveland's title this season imo.

Getting caught at the offensive end and thus getting burned in transition is far different than not following the instructions of the head coach on how to play half court defense. Even you should be able to understand the difference.

As for the previous post....care to offer some clear understanding as to why the Cavs were rated a 6 to 1 (Magic series) favorite last year versus a probable 3 to 2 favorite this year? Have the Magic improved that much this year? Moreover, care to explain last year's much lower allowance of points per game? Or their 8.9 average point spread victory versus this year's 6.8?...or their higher winning percentage last year...that last year's team won their first 8 playoff games by double digits...or...I'll stop here.

devil1197

He wasn't caught on the offensive end, he simply didn't get back. He wasn't even sprinting.

You can bring up any statistics, but Cleveland has to win exactly 7 more games to prove you wrong once again. You cannot judge a team, who made more roster changes due to trades, FA pick ups, and injuries, before their season is even over.

I'll keep track for you and I'll make sure to remind you in a couple weeks.

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