Official NFL Draft Discussion

• RedBlackAttack

  

  IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.

  He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.
  
  I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
• Sykotyk

  

  RedBlackAttack wrote:

  IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.

  He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.
  
  I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).

  True. But at a certain point, the value of McCoy would match the pick in hand. If the Browns truly are doing 'best available' then that means they think McCoy is a really crappy pro QB.
  
  Which surprised me.
  
  Oh well. We traded up for a RB that I didn't think we'd fill in by giving up a third and two fifths. Right now, no qualms with MH or Heckert. i'll let the draft and season play out before i start laying into them on their first go-round.
• mucalum49

  

  Whats the deal with Everson Griffen? I heard he might take a play or two off but he is a first round talent supposedly
• RedBlackAttack

  

  Sykotyk wrote:

  RedBlackAttack wrote:

  IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.

  He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.
  
  I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).

  True. But at a certain point, the value of McCoy would match the pick in hand. If the Browns truly are doing 'best available' then that means they think McCoy is a really crappy pro QB.
  
  Which surprised me.
  
  Oh well. We traded up for a RB that I didn't think we'd fill in by giving up a third and two fifths. Right now, no qualms with MH or Heckert. i'll let the draft and season play out before i start laying into them on their first go-round.

  Agreed. It is pretty obvious that taking McCoy with the pick we traded up for would have been a terrible decision, because he is still out there. We almost certainly wouldn't have gotten Hardesty with our original 3rd round pick, so things have gone pretty much exactly how Heckert probably envisioned.
  
  It looks like we will have another shot at McCoy. If Heckert/Holmgren don't take him with our next pick, then I don't want anything to do with him because it will be obvious that there are serious issues, there.
• IggyPride00

  

  If he is there again when the Browns draft they should just take him because at this point the odds of getting a starting player at any position are iffy, and McCoy is too much of a value to pass on at this point considering his skills are actually a good fit for what the Browns want to do offensively in a semi-west coast offense. Not to mention the fans want it, which would buy the team some good will which is always needed.
• BigAppleBuckeye

  

  I have to assume that freak injury to McCoy in the BCS title game has really hurt his stock? I think the kid can play, someone is going to get a steal with McCoy in the 3rd round, the guy is a winner.
• Mulva

  

  KR1245 wrote: How do you guys feel about Everson Griffen? I'm surprised that hes still available

  Workout warrior, but doesn't live up to it on game days.
• imex99

  

  I'm guessing McCoy to Da BROWNS...
• rydawg5

  We are at pick #86 in a DEEP draft. To say that a pick at any position is iffy is dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb... or ignorant? I'm leaning towards stupid for the right word. Judges ruling??? "Retarded" Ahh yes, that was a retarded assumption..
• pinstriper

  RedBlackAttack wrote:
  I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).

  This. Browns will be near the top of the draft next year and that will be the time to take a QB.
• rydawg5

  Bengals need to start pickin more bad character guys. Lagarret Blount next?
• Sykotyk

  

  We'll find out in two picks. If the Browns don't take him then, there's obviously issues and McCoy is damaged goods.
  
  Worst time for a commercial.
  
  What was that about trading up? NFL.com shows the bengals picking a WR. Where was the trade-up?
• rydawg5

  Wow, nice pick up Shipley (helluva draft) so far for the bengals.
• ts1227

  

  Sykotyk wrote: We'll find out in two picks. If the Browns don't take him then, there's obviously issues and McCoy is damaged goods.
  
  Edit.
  
  We just traded up. Worst time for a commercial.

  No, that's a scheduled pick.
• Mulva

  

  I would like Eric Decker with one of these 2 picks, even though I know Holmgren wants a speed guy at receiver.
• Sykotyk

  

  Damn, for a second I thought they were saying we traded with the Bengals to move up one spot. I was a little concerned with that.
• rydawg5

  Mulva wrote: I would like Eric Decker with one of these 2 picks, even though I know Holmgren wants a speed guy at receiver.

  eh.. not a fan
• ts1227

  

  Schefter and Mort are saying McCoy
• KR1245

  

  This McCoy?
• SQ_Crazies

  

  LOL obvious.
• rydawg5

  haha Colt Mccoy!
• KR1245

  

  Good value this late in the draft
• SQ_Crazies

  

  KR1245 wrote: Good value this late in the draft

  Exceptional value IMO.
• imex99

  

  2nd that ^^
• newarkcatholicfan

  

  Good pick Cleveland.