ISIS

• steubbigred

  FatHobbit;1694150 wrote:I wonder if this little speech is much different from the speeches the extremists give.

  probably not .. but i wont go after innocent unarmed women and children...
  i do not want to impose laws forbidding free speech and thought.. i fought for this country and i will die for it . i am extremely disgusted with this latest attack on free people.
• Spock

  

  TedSheckler;1694135 wrote:Sean Hannity destroyed a London imam yesterday. "You're an evil SOB."
  
  [video=youtubewIXBRZi2jE][/video]

  Sean better watch out cause they will come and kill him
• steubbigred

  thavoice;1694165 wrote:And therein lies the problem. This whole new "battleground" we face an enemy that doesnt wear a certain uniform, and look just like the thousands of others who are just as normal as can be.

  their playbook tells them to become friends with us and make us trust them .. the radicals are not as easy to find as people think ... they want to populate areas heavily before they launch attacks in america. it is coming.
• thavoice

  steubbigred;1694171 wrote:their playbook tells them to become friends with us and make us trust them .. the radicals are not as easy to find as people think ... they want to populate areas heavily before they launch attacks in america. it is coming.

  Again...we are talking about such a small, small percentage of them who carry out any sort of violence......
• steubbigred

  Spock;1694168 wrote:Sean better watch out cause they will come and kill him

  that is what they want us to think .... we are a scrrrrd people.. we cannot be intimidated by these animals
• steubbigred

  thavoice;1694172 wrote:Again...we are talking about such a small, small percentage of them who carry out any sort of violence......

  it is a minority but it is not as small as you think ...i only wish it were true ..
• thavoice

  steubbigred;1694175 wrote:it is a minority but it is not as small as you think ...i only wish it were true ..

  and not nearly as large of a % as you think.
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  Dr Winston O'Boogie;1694091 wrote:It is very easy to find this information. As an example, this pew research report shows that 30%-40% of Muslims in Europe believe suicide bombing is justified.
  
  That is not "extremist".
  
  http://pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

  I don't have some sort of hatred for Muslim people. I find their religion to be something concerning because of the fact that so many people are able interpret it in a way that promotes violence. The west has a tradition of liberal society where tolerance of others' views is central. Wide swaths of Islam do not think this way.
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  thavoice;1694176 wrote:and not nearly as large of a % as you think.

  30%-40% of Muslims in France. I would call that large.
• TedSheckler

  

  thavoice;1694164 wrote:I know what we are dealing with.
  Just saying that Hannity is a hack and unwatchable.

  Not pertinent to the discussion.
• thavoice

  Dr Winston O'Boogie;1694184 wrote:30%-40% of Muslims in France. I would call that large.

  So 30-40% of muslims in france are carrying out terrorist attacks?
• TedSheckler

  

  Where did he say that?
• thavoice

  TedSheckler;1694195 wrote:Where did he say that?

  I said it is a very small % who carry out attacks.
  He responded more than I think.
  I said less than ya think.
  30-40% in the country was a response...
• steubbigred

  thavoice;1694186 wrote:So 30-40% of muslims in france are carrying out terrorist attacks?

  i think he was saying that that percentage thinks in a radical form .... that is how i read it anyway.... i honestly could not tell you but i think it might be more than you think it is..
• thavoice

  steubbigred;1694197 wrote:i think he was saying that that percentage thinks in a radical form .... that is how i read it anyway.... i honestly could not tell you but i think it might be more than you think it is..

  I figured that was what he meant.......
  Not sure how ya really come up with a number though in saying how many of them think in a radical form.
• steubbigred

  Dr Winston O'Boogie;1694183 wrote:I don't have some sort of hatred for Muslim people. I find their religion to be something concerning because of the fact that so many people are able interpret it in a way that promotes violence. The west has a tradition of liberal society where tolerance of others' views is central. Wide swaths of Islam do not think this way.

  i agree...... we are vulnerable for the simple fact we have a far better value system then many of those animals ....the higher ground and the good way of doing things takes a much harder fight. we have to be willing to protect our values as a western society.
• steubbigred

  thavoice;1694200 wrote:I figured that was what he meant.......
  Not sure how ya really come up with a number though in saying how many of them think in a radical form.

  from all of my reading and basic internet research that is how i see it . i am no expert . it is just my opinion ..... but remember we are allowed to disagree without imminent threat of violence. if you insult the profit mohamed in a cartoon in many of those countries you can be put to death ... if you are a homosexual you are as good as dead . if you commit adultery you can be put to death ... if the majority of the muslim world wants to govern their own territories in this manner then they have that right . i do not wish them to impose their ideals on me. i do not agree with many things in my country and i am no flaming liberal or right winger ,but basic freedom of expression is precious and worth the loss of blood . we cannot kneel to these animals.
• thavoice

  steubbigred;1694207 wrote:from all of my reading and basic internet research that is how i see it . i am no expert . it is just my opinion ..... but remember we are allowed to disagree without imminent threat of violence. if you insult the profit mohamed in a cartoon in many of those countries you can be put to death ... if you are a homosexual you are as good as dead . if you commit adultery you can be put to death ... if the majority of the muslim world wants to govern their own territories in this manner then they have that right . i do not wish them to impose their ideals on me. i do not agree with many things in my country and i am no flaming liberal or right winger ,but basic freedom of expression is precious and worth the loss of blood . we cannot kneel to these animals.

  That is what ISIS is trying to do, build a caliphate.
  
  
  I agree with you though. The threat needs to be taken very seriously. We will see something along the lines that France experienced. A 9/11 style attack is probably out of the question in terms of all the logistics but we very well could see bigger death tolls by a very small group like this one.
  They cannot stand face-to-face to our military and defeat us so they must rely on the random attacks that are extremely tough to stop.
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  thavoice;1694172 wrote:Again...we are talking about such a small, small percentage of them who carry out any sort of violence......

  Along with the 20%-40% of Muslims who support the actions of these killers. That's the problem.
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  thavoice;1694186 wrote:So 30-40% of muslims in france are carrying out terrorist attacks?

  Obviously not. However support of these types of actions is what breeds this mentality. When that many people support and believe in this type of action, it is not "extremist". It's somewhere closer to mainstream.
  
  Every time we see evidence that these disgusting brainwashed killers are growing in power, people in the west want to defend them. The ironic thing is they will gladly kill those who defend them for the exact same reasons they will kill any of us that call them out - we are infidels.
• Dr Winston O'Boogie

  

  thavoice;1694196 wrote:I said it is a very small % who carry out attacks.
  He responded more than I think.
  I said less than ya think.
  30-40% in the country was a response...

  I linked a report from Pew Research that shows the support of terrorism and suicide bombing by Muslims.
• rydawg5

  France needs to understand that they should watch everyone's move. Voting, twitter, texts, etc. privacy and liberties over rated because you have the boogie man to destroy. If you aren't doing any thing wrong nothing to worry about. Sheesh everybody knows that.
  
  
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• GoPens

  

  steubbigred;1694124 wrote:so be it ..
  
  when are the christian nations of this world going to say enough is enough .N we must eradicate as many of these roaches as humanly possible wherever they breed. they are not human they are vermin and the brand of religion they teach is no better than black witchcraft .. they are nothing but the scum of the earth ... how is that for you.

  They did once. It's called the Crusades.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  GoPens;1694265 wrote:They did once. It's called the Crusades.

  Hey now, don't go bringing facts and stuff in here. This is about these violent religions, not the one of peace and understanding....
• steubbigred

  sharia law exists in many muslim countries not just the caliphate