At least St Louis isn't in Ohio

• Glory Days

  

  I have read two articles so far, not one has mentioned his race. Shouldn't the headline reads "Armed black man kills innocent police officers"? with pictures of the police officers middle school pictures next to it?
  

  gut;1688018 wrote:That guy supposedly killed himself. I'm going to guess he was a "little off" and the two grand jury cases probably didn't make a difference.

  sure looks like he planned this though from the posts they found on his instagram.
• gut

  Glory Days;1688037 wrote: sure looks like he planned this though from the posts they found on his instagram.

  He was a fugitive who shot his girlfriend in Baltimore on Friday. I think the whole Garner/Brown thing was really inconsequential.
• Glory Days

  

  gut;1688044 wrote:He was a fugitive who shot his girlfriend in Baltimore on Friday. I think the whole Garner/Brown thing was really inconsequential.

  The Brown/Garner thing was not inconsequential. These cops were eating their lunch. They weren't trying to arrest this guy or anything.
  
  
  
  
• gut

  Glory Days;1688049 wrote:The Brown/Garner thing was not inconsequential. These cops were eating their lunch. They weren't trying to arrest this guy or anything.

  Guy was wanted for murder or attempted murder in BAL. He clearly had lost it and had decided to go out infamously. Maybe without Brown/Garner he would have targeted random civilians instead, but who knows.
  
  Point being, he pretty obviously was going to commit more violence. I see the Brown/Garner angle more as opportunism than motivation. Unless you can convince me shooting his girlfriend was part of his assassination plot, and that shooting his girlfriend wasn't an isolated incident that triggered some version of suicide by cop.
• shook_17

  

  Murdered those two officers in cold blood. This is sickening, the protestors got what they've been asking for smh. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see more of this. There is zero training an officer can do to prepare for this kind of an attack. To all my brothers in blue, stay safe and keep you're head on a swivle. RIP brothers.
• like_that

  

  Glory Days;1688049 wrote:The Brown/Garner thing was not inconsequential. These cops were eating their lunch. They weren't trying to arrest this guy or anything.
  
  
  
  

  Even worse they scumbags even "liked" that post.
• Glory Days

  

  gut;1688050 wrote:Guy was wanted for murder or attempted murder in BAL. He clearly had lost it and had decided to go out infamously. Maybe without Brown/Garner he would have targeted random civilians instead, but who knows.
  
  Point being, he pretty obviously was going to commit more violence. I see the Brown/Garner angle more as opportunism than motivation. Unless you can convince me shooting his girlfriend was part of his assassination plot, and that shooting his girlfriend wasn't an isolated incident that triggered some version of suicide by cop.

  he could have committed suicide by cop in Baltimore. even so, he shot himself, which he could have done without the cops. he had to go out of his way to kill these cops, he clearly thought about it when he made the instagram post days after killing his ex girlfriend, it wasn't a spur of the moment type thing. had the cops been trying to arrest him and he started shooting it out with them etc, I might be able to agree with you.
• Glory Days

  

  "This can't happen. If you mad at somebody, be mad at the person that you are mad at. Now, we have two families that (are) missing somebody for the holidays," Shaniqua Pervis told CNN affiliate WABC. "Where is your humanity? I know it's a war going on and shoutout to Eric Garner's family and everybody else who lost somebody, but you're not at his house, on his lawn. This is two (officers). You don't even know if (they were) good or bad. I don't condone this, and I'm not with it."

  so its a war going on?
  

  In a statement, activist the Rev. Al Sharpton said the Garner family was outraged by news of the shootings.
  
  "Any use of the names of Eric Garner and Michael Brown, in connection with any violence or killing of police, is reprehensible and against the pursuit of justice in both cases," the statement said. "We have stressed at every rally and march that anyone engaged in any violence is an enemy to the pursuit of justice for Eric Garner and Michael Brown."

  Sharpton has some balls talking about the use of Michael Brown and Eric Garner's names.
• gut

  Glory Days;1688088 wrote:he could have committed suicide by cop in Baltimore. even so, he shot himself,

  Distinction without a difference when cornered.
  
  He was clearly unstable. An opportunist who seized on pop culture to be infamous.
• shook_17

  

  Another police officer in Florida was ambushed and killed this mornings.
  http://tinyurl.com/lt58m4d
  
  First reports say it was a loud music complaint bit multiple outlets saying the loud music was bogus and he was ambushed by a guy with a rifle.
• rmolin73

  

  gut;1688091 wrote:Distinction without a difference when cornered.
  
  He was clearly unstable. An opportunist who seized on pop culture to be infamous.

  Exactly
• HitsRus

  

  You can attempt to justify this by saying that guy is "Unstable", but this is the direct and predictable result of the failure of leadership to 1)reaffirm the validity and the necessity of law enforcement
  2) reaffirm that almost ALL law-enforcement officers are good and public servants that protect the community.(Sharpton used the term "most" this morning).
  3)acknowledge and condemn the actions of those that contributed to their own deaths.
  
  Thus is the result when you have leadership that is more concerned with scoring political points and pumping up their own image, than in lawful "justice". Justice is never determined by a mob ...but nowhere have we heard this emphatically stated.
• Pick6

  

  I don't think these idiots care about what Obama has to say either way. If they did, I doubt they would have burned down Ferguson.
• rmolin73

  

  HitsRus;1688135 wrote:You can attempt to justify this by saying that guy is "Unstable", but this is the direct and predictable result of the failure of leadership to 1)reaffirm the validity and the necessity of law enforcement
  2) reaffirm that almost ALL law-enforcement officers are good and public servants that protect the community.(Sharpton used the term "most" this morning).
  3)acknowledge and condemn the actions of those that contributed to their own deaths.
  
  Thus is the result when you have leadership that is more concerned with scoring political points and pumping up their own image, than in lawful "justice". Justice is never determined by a mob ...but nowhere have we heard this emphatically stated.

  
  Who's trying to justify this senseless murder of two innocent police officers. But to think that this has something to do with Brown or Garner is foolish. This guy just used that to cause more violence. If it was the case how does the murder of his ex gf tie into it?
• Heretic

  

  HitsRus;1688135 wrote:You can attempt to justify this by saying that guy is "Unstable", but this is the direct and predictable result of the failure of leadership to 1)reaffirm the validity and the necessity of law enforcement
  2) reaffirm that almost ALL law-enforcement officers are good and public servants that protect the community.(Sharpton used the term "most" this morning).
  3)acknowledge and condemn the actions of those that contributed to their own deaths.
  
  Thus is the result when you have leadership that is more concerned with scoring political points and pumping up their own image, than in lawful "justice". Justice is never determined by a mob ...but nowhere have we heard this emphatically stated.

  So said in a post that seems to be using recent events to score political points. I APPROVE!
• SportsAndLady

  

  rmolin73;1688147 wrote:But to think that this has something to do with Brown or Garner is foolish. This guy just used that to cause more violence.

  Ummm
  
  Authorities have already said the cop killer wanted retaliation for michael brown and Eric garner.
  
  He posted "they take one of ours let's take 2 of theirs" on social media sites.
  
  I mean, you can't be serious right?
• rmolin73

  

  gut;1688091 wrote:Distinction without a difference when cornered.
  
  He was clearly unstable. An opportunist who seized on pop culture to be infamous.

  SportsAndLady;1688154 wrote:Ummm
  
  Authorities have already said the cop killer wanted retaliation for michael brown and Eric garner.
  
  He posted "they take one of ours let's take 2 of theirs" on social media sites.
  
  I mean, you can't be serious right?

  I think gut summed it up pretty well. I think this guy used the Brown and Garner incidents as an excuse to kill more people. If it was his sole purpose then how do you explain the murder of his gf?
• SportsAndLady

  

  rmolin73;1688156 wrote:I think gut summed it up pretty well. I think this guy used the Brown and Garner incidents as an excuse to kill more people. If it was his sole purpose then how do you explain the murder of his gf?

  Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
  
  This is what I don't understand about black people right now. They go absolutely ape shit when the MB and Garner thing happened. Saying a lot of fucked up shit about cops, marching through the streets cursing cops' names, even walking up to cops in protests and threatening them and call pigs, and then when one of them actually follows through with a crime against a cop, you guys immediately denounce the guy and say oh no this isn't what we wanted.
  
  This is literally what you were asking for, but when it actually happens, you say the guy was mentally ill and this had nothing to do with AB and Garner because then that'll give us a bad name.
  
  And as for your question about killing his ex gf, I don't know because I'm not going to try and get into the mind of a murderer..like you are trying to do.
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1688160 wrote:Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
  
  This is what I don't understand about black people right now. They go absolutely ape shit when the MB and Garner thing happened. Saying a lot of fucked up shit about cops, marching through the streets cursing cops' names, even walking up to cops in protests and threatening them and call pigs, and then when one of them actually follows through with a crime against a cop, you guys immediately denounce the guy and say oh no this isn't what we wanted.
  
  This is literally what you were asking for, but when it actually happens, you say the guy was mentally ill and this had nothing to do with AB and Garner because then that'll give us a bad name.
  
  And as for your question about killing his ex gf, I don't know because I'm not going to try and get into the mind of a murderer..like you are trying to do.

  
  Yeah, I think saying he was unstable is a cop out excuse. When is a murderer ever mentally stable?
• rmolin73

  

  SportsAndLady;1688160 wrote:Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
  
  This is what I don't understand about black people right now. They go absolutely ape shit when the MB and Garner thing happened. Saying a lot of fucked up shit about cops, marching through the streets cursing cops' names, even walking up to cops in protests and threatening them and call pigs, and then when one of them actually follows through with a crime against a cop, you guys immediately denounce the guy and say oh no this isn't what we wanted.
  
  This is literally what you were asking for, but when it actually happens, you say the guy was mentally ill and this had nothing to do with AB and Garner because then that'll give us a bad name.
  
  And as for your question about killing his ex gf, I don't know because I'm not going to try and get into the mind of a murderer..like you are trying to do.

  
  Lol yeah I went ape shit over the Garner and Brown cases. Also I guess gut is black because I'm basically agreeing with him. But keep up with your characterization and labeling fest.
• shook_17

  

  According to reports it was his ex girlfriend and she wasn't murdered. According to Fox News she's still alive in the hospital n
• SportsAndLady

  

  rmolin73;1688162 wrote:Lol yeah I went ape shit over the Garner and Brown cases. Also I guess gut is black because I'm basically agreeing with him. But keep up with your characterization and labeling fest.

  I rarely agree with gut
  
  He's half ratard
• HitsRus

  

  When you make martyrs out of lawbreakers... When you imply or give tacit approval to the idea that law enforcement and the justice system is corrupt or inherently racist ... Then you invite this kind of stuff from people that are "unstable".
  When you show on TV signs that say "My heroes are cop killers"....
• rmolin73

  

  SportsAndLady;1688169 wrote:I rarely agree with gut
  
  He's half ratard

  True
• sleeper

  

  SportsAndLady;1688160 wrote:Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
  
  This is what I don't understand about black people right now. They go absolutely ape shit when the MB and Garner thing happened. Saying a lot of fucked up shit about cops, marching through the streets cursing cops' names, even walking up to cops in protests and threatening them and call pigs, and then when one of them actually follows through with a crime against a cop, you guys immediately denounce the guy and say oh no this isn't what we wanted.
  
  This is literally what you were asking for, but when it actually happens, you say the guy was mentally ill and this had nothing to do with AB and Garner because then that'll give us a bad name.
  
  And as for your question about killing his ex gf, I don't know because I'm not going to try and get into the mind of a murderer..like you are trying to do.

  There were protesters the other day in DC chanting "What do we want? Dead cops!". This was before this incident.
  
  In my opinion, if a group of protesters chants this, they should be placed in prison.