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Another pit bull kills a person thread

  • salto
    This time it was a baby.

    http://www.whio.com/news/news/crime-law/pit-bull-attacks-kills-baby-riverside-drive/ngjj5/
  • salto
    ccrunner609;1637517 wrote:the breed of dog should be removed completely from this planet
    Are you saying breed has nothing to do with it?
  • Pick6
    whats up with black people/white trash and pit bulls? They aren't even close to good looking dogs.
  • GoChiefs
    Those damn pit bulls.

    http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-saves-deaf-fire-article-1.1873657
  • salto

    I bet its easier to find more threads on bad pit bulls than good ones.
  • Bio-Hazzzzard
    Pick6;1637541 wrote:whats up with black people/white trash and pit bulls? They aren't even close to good looking dogs.
    I would label it in terms of white trash/black trash and pit bulls. The "trash" don't even care about themselves, why would they raise a good dog when they don't care about themselves in general? I'm not a fan of pit bulls myself, but if raised with love they are good, loyal, and protective dogs.
  • salto
    Bio-Hazzzzard;1637544 wrote:I would label it in terms of white trash/black trash and pit bulls. The "trash" don't even care about themselves, why would they raise a good dog when they don't care about themselves in general? I'm not a fan of pit bulls myself, but if raised with love they are good, loyal, and protective dogs.
    I agree but why is the pit bull the dog of choice for trashy people?
  • isadore
    they are the deadliest of dogs by far. With so many breeds and mixes to pick from people still select these killers.
  • sleeper
    I love PITBULLS. Best breed on the planet.
  • BR1986FB
    salto;1637543 wrote:I bet its easier to find more threads on bad pit bulls than good ones.
    I bet it is too. When Joe Thomas or another offensive lineman does his job during a game, do you hear about it? Not likely. You only hear about it when he fucks up, which isn't often.

    People want to paint pitbulls as "killers" so all of the negative stories come out of the woodwork when something happens. I bet there's a lot more positive stories, than negative stories, about them. You just don't hear about them.
  • derek bomar
    pit bulls are awesome breeds. However, the "trash" love them for whatever reason, and like with any breed if you raise it wrong it's going to act-out. Which I would bet is a lot of the cause of the stories you hear. But you're not likely to hear all of the good stories about these dogs because the media and people like OP want the conversation to be about how bad these animals are. I'd love to have a pit (my cattle dog may have some in her but she is a rescue...).
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  • Heretic
    CC + Isadore on the same side? The Path of the Idiot has been determined.
  • salto
    derek bomar;1637585 wrote:pit bulls are awesome breeds. However, the "trash" love them for whatever reason, and like with any breed if you raise it wrong it's going to act-out. Which I would bet is a lot of the cause of the stories you hear. .
    No doubt. We also have laws preventing dangerous people from owning guns.
  • Belly35
    As a former dog trainer with multiple CD and CDX champions. I have seen many people who shouldn't have a dog nor should they have children but that's another issue. The only solution to ownership of this breed Pit Bull and or bloodline of this breed is that the owners of such breed must have the dog registered, insured and proof of obedience trained via a registered training operation. The dog must pass the required obedience CD training or the owner must retire the dog to the county for extermination. The issue of training this breed is where the separation of responsible ownership and trash owner will take it toll. Can't afford training, can't take the time and can't be dedicated to the training requirements ... Can't be a pit bull owner or a owner of a pit bull dog bloodline mix breed.... Simple solution to trash, ignorant individual owning Pit Bulls
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    The issue is complex, but owning a dog with the bloodline of a Pit, an American/English Staffie, Bull Mastiff, and Bull Terrier (usually English, but also American) carries a lot of responsibility.

    These dogs are very powerful, and have the ability to seriously harm young people and other dogs. That doesn't mean they aren't bad dogs per se, but are bred to be very protective of their pack. The kindest pit bull can be an angel to the family toddler, but in the protective state can terrorize other dogs - which are quick to pick up on it.

    Unlike other protective breeds (including the toy department), it isn't easy to handle a dog that powerful. Yet, some ill-informed people adopt them.

    A dalmatian can be a pain, yet although a pain to train is relatively easy to control. Pits, not as simple. Our hound has the dog sense to know the danger and reacts as one would expect. If one chooses to own a breed like this, they should be on notice that other dog breeds aren't part of the pack, and may react aggressively.
  • salto
    Manhattan Buckeye;1637619 wrote:The issue is complex, but owning a dog with the bloodline of a Pit, an American/English Staffie, Bull Mastiff, and Bull Terrier (usually English, but also American) carries a lot of responsibility.

    These dogs are very powerful, and have the ability to seriously harm young people and other dogs. That doesn't mean they aren't bad dogs per se, but are bred to be very protective of their pack. The kindest pit bull can be an angel to the family toddler, but in the protective state can terrorize other dogs - which are quick to pick up on it.

    Unlike other protective breeds (including the toy department), it isn't easy to handle a dog that powerful. Yet, some ill-informed people adopt them.

    A dalmatian can be a pain, yet although a pain to train is relatively easy to control. Pits, not as simple. Our hound has the dog sense to know the danger and reacts as one would expect. If one chooses to own a breed like this, they should be on notice that other dog breeds aren't part of the pack, and may react aggressively.
    reps


    ccrunner609;1637625 wrote:justify it however you want.......pitbulls negatives far outweigh their positives.
    Spoken like a true jim teacher.






    lol
  • BR1986FB
    ccrunner609;1637625 wrote:justify it however you want.......pitbulls negatives far outweigh their positives.
    Kind of like how distance running's negatives far outweigh their positives...
  • bigdaddy2003
    My ex and I decided to get a Pit from my buddy last Summer. She was 6 months old and he said he just wasn't going to have time to keep her anymore. So he brought her over to us, he was rambunctious but I figured it was nothing because of her age. Well that night we went to get something to eat and my ex's mom and step dad said they would stay with the puppy while we went. I got a text about 45 mins later saying she had went for the guy's throat. Knowing the guy for a while I know he isn't the type to provoke such behavior. So then I think ok is it possible that my buddy was rough on this dog and thus made her act like this? Highly doubtful based on the fact that he was basically crying when he dropped her off. So my ex and I decided then and there that a Pit was probably a dog that we should only keep around ourselves and being that we both have nephews/nieces, I call my buddy and ask us what he wants us to do. He says to bring her back, so I did.

    Was one instance a little premature to get rid of a dog? Maybe but I figured since she was only 6 months old, it could only get worse. On the other hand I have a cousin who has two Pits and they are great dogs. I agree with whoever said certain people shouldn't own Pits but you don't hear too much about Labs doing the things you hear about Pits doing. Why? For the people who are pro Pit, explain to me what anyone has to gain by bad mouthing these dogs in public? What are they gaining by exposing Pits?
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    ^^^

    Public (and incorrect and irresponsible) shaming.

    Pits are a challenge, and they are difficult to control. No one has ever heard of a Golden Retriever going nuts on a neighborhood dog. Or turning on a toddler or adult. Pits can be great dogs, but it is a lot of work, and more work than the average dog. They have an aggressive nature that can be controlled, but it needs to be controlled at all times.
  • salto
    BR1986FB;1637633 wrote:Kind of like how distance running's negatives far outweigh their positives...
  • rmolin73
    Manhattan Buckeye;1637636 wrote:^^^

    Public (and incorrect and irresponsible) shaming.

    Pits are a challenge, and they are difficult to control. No one has ever heard of a Golden Retriever going nuts on a neighborhood dog. Or turning on a toddler or adult. Pits can be great dogs, but it is a lot of work, and more work than the average dog. They have an aggressive nature that can be controlled, but it needs to be controlled at all times.
    You don't get around much do you?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

    http://evanston.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/police-searching-for-golden-retriever-who-mauled-smaller-dog
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    These are big news because it is big news...man bites dog. And I'm guessing most of the reporting is incorrect. A pit bull is aggressive. A bull terrier is aggressive. Unless you are dedicated to training them otherwise you are going to get into trouble in dog parks and with other dogs/children.
  • isadore
    So far 15 people killed by dogs this year including : Kristine Bell 43 by Pit Bull Mix, Kara Hartrich 4 by Pit Bull, Klondra Richey 57 Mixed Bull Pit, Javaeh Myers 2 pit bull mix, Braelyn Coulter 3 pit bull, Kenneth Santilla 13 Pit Mix, Mia De Rouen 4 pit bull, Christopher Malone 3, Pit Bull, Dorothy Hamilton 85, John Harvard 5, pit bull, Katie Johson 20 3 pit bulls, Kasii Hath 4 3 pit bulls Another year for pits and their favorite prey small children.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States
  • rmolin73
    Manhattan Buckeye;1637662 wrote:These are big news because it is big news...man bites dog. And I'm guessing most of the reporting is incorrect. A pit bull is aggressive. A bull terrier is aggressive. Unless you are dedicated to training them otherwise you are going to get into trouble in dog parks and with other dogs/children.
    I never said that pit bulls weren't aggressive. I was just correcting your whole thought process on Golden Retrievers.