Bill Bye vs Ken Ham
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Con_AlmaIt's possible for belief to be different from reality.
It's possible for belief to be reality. -
sleeper
The latter is only possible with evidence. It's been thousands of years of religious belief and still zero evidence. Time to grow up.Con_Alma;1577146 wrote:It's possible for belief to be different from reality.
It's possible for belief to be reality. -
Con_Alma
Wrong. The possibility exists for both. You're speaking of proof.sleeper;1577147 wrote:The latter is only possible with evidence. .....
Both are possible. -
gport_tennis
Will you ever answer any questions that are directly asked to you? You are uninformed on Religion in general, and you have proved that with your posts on this subject. Being religious does not make one mediocre, saying so is ignorant.sleeper;1577123 wrote:Can you prove that the bible was not created for entertainment purposes? Should we believe that a flying invisible pink unicorn controls the world because we cannot 100% prove that it doesn't exist?
Honestly, your arguments are boring and the result of centuries of brainwashing. Enjoy mediocrity. -
sleeper
Possible is good enough? Everything is possible. Time to grow up.Con_Alma;1577148 wrote:Wrong. The possibility exists for both. You're speaking of proof.
Both are possible. -
sleeper
Why bother? You are already delusional and nothing I say will ever get you to see the light. Continue being mediocre and ignorant.gport_tennis;1577150 wrote:Will you ever answer any questions that are directly asked to you? You are uninformed on Religion in general, and you have proved that with your posts on this subject. Being religious does not make one mediocre, saying so is ignorant. -
Con_Alma
Good enough for what?sleeper;1577152 wrote:Why bother? You are already delusional and nothing I say will ever get you to see the light. Continue being mediocre and ignorant.
I was responding to your statement, "Belief is different from reality ". Belief isn't always different form reality. -
Con_Alma
Agreed. ...and it's why you were wrong when you stated the later is only possible with evidence.sleeper;1577151 wrote:... Everything is possible.... -
sleeper
Reality is only possible with evidence.Con_Alma;1577155 wrote:Agreed. ...and it's why you were wrong when you stated the later is only possible with evidence. -
Raw Dawgin' it
Everything is not possible. When you die, you can't be resurrected.Con_Alma;1577155 wrote:Agreed. ...and it's why you were wrong when you stated the later is only possible with evidence. -
Con_Almasleeper;1577156 wrote:Reality is only possible with evidence.
This doesn't make your previous statement accurate.
By the way...this statement is incorrect also.
Lacking evidence doesn't mean things aren't possible. There are many things we haven't done yet that we have the possibility to do and have no evidence that we can. The medical field is littered with them. We still have the possibility of accomplishing them. -
Con_AlmaRaw Dawgin' it;1577157 wrote:Everything is not possible. When you die, you can't be resurrected.
I disagree. -
sleeper
Possibility isn't reality. Your arguments are flawed at best and fraud at worst.Con_Alma;1577159 wrote:This doesn't make your previous statement accurate.
By the way...this statement is incorrect also.
Lacking evidence doesn't mean things aren't possible. There are many things we haven't done yet that we have the possibility to do and have no evidence that we can. The medical field is littered with them. We still have the possibility of accomplishing them. -
gport_tennis
Who says I was brought up Christian?Raw Dawgin' it;1577116 wrote:Examples please. Would you believe this if you weren't brought up christian? I was brought up jewish and the older i got the more i realized no one knows and no one has any evidence to the contrary.
Because it would've happened again. Why do you believe that? What has happened to you that makes you go "Yes, this is totally possible?"
All this "happened" thousands of years ago and no one has any documentation going back that far, which means the stories are so distorted that to believe any of it as fact is ludicrous. Play a game of telephone with 20 people and see what happens. Now do the same thing over centuries.
Why do you assume that it would've happened again? What is "it"?
One example of many, I drove in a car with a friend who never wore his seatbelt. When I say never I mean literally NEVER, and would brag about it. We went on a drive somewhere, at a Red Light he heard a voice tell him to put his seatbelt on, so he did. I looked at him funny and he said he has a bad feeling. 5 minutes later a person smashes into the back of his car. He would have been sent through the Window had he not buckled, as his backend was royally messed up. Some people look at it as a coincidence, but he swears to this day he heard a voice telling him to buckle up. I was the only person in the car, and I didn't tell him to buckle up. -
queencitybuckeye
Not true, the world was round before anyone suspected, or had evidence that it was.sleeper;1577156 wrote:Reality is only possible with evidence.
A lack of evidence doesn't make something untrue, it makes it unknown. -
sleeper
And over time evidence proved the correct reality. It's been thousands of years and still ZERO evidence of any religious based faith.queencitybuckeye;1577166 wrote:Not true, the world was round before anyone suspected, or had evidence that it was. -
sleeperAlso the irony is pretty hilarious. People BELIEVED the world was flat but never proved it. Only science(and logic and reason) proved the correct reality.
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Con_Almasleeper;1577163 wrote:Possibility isn't reality. Your arguments are flawed at best and fraud at worst.
I didn't say possibility was reality. Lol
Possibility exists however without evidence. -
Con_Alma
sooooo without evidence possibility of a round earth existed.sleeper;1577168 wrote:And over time evidence proved the correct reality. .. . -
sleeper
I'm using reality and truth interchangeable. I'm embarrassed that I even have to express that to you.Con_Alma;1577171 wrote:I didn't say possibility was reality. Lol
Possibility exists however without evidence.
Possibility is not reality. Time to grow up. -
sleeper
And was proven with science, logic, and reason. It is now a truth. Where is your evidence? You are living your entire life based on a possibility not a reality; time to grow up.Con_Alma;1577172 wrote:sooooo without evidence possibility of a round earth existed. -
queencitybuckeye
There's no such thing as "correct reality". It's binary. The only reality in my example is that the Earth is round. That no one knew or thought that at one time is of no consequence.sleeper;1577170 wrote:Also the irony is pretty hilarious. People BELIEVED the world was flat but never proved it. Only science(and logic and reason) proved the correct reality. -
gport_tennis
That is your opinion/belief, mine differs. Neither one of us can prove each other 100% wrong.Raw Dawgin' it;1577157 wrote:Everything is not possible. When you die, you can't be resurrected. -
Con_Alma
...so you wrong in stating that possibility doesn't exist without evidence.sleeper;1577174 wrote:And was proven with science, logic, and reason. .... -
sleeper
Truth and reality to me are the same thing. Undiscovered truth is not truth until evidence supports the conclusion. The fact that people thought the Earth was flat and didn't prove it correlates well with the time where people think an invisible fairy built everything and he just happens to hate when men put their penis in another's man's butt hole. Time to grow up.queencitybuckeye;1577175 wrote:There's no such thing as "correct reality". It's binary. The only reality in my example is that the Earth is round. That no one knew or thought that at one time is of no consequence.