Will Zimmerman get a fair trial in the Travon Martin case?

• rmolin73

  

  ccrunner609;1465470 wrote:this....TM did run at first and then stopped, hid and jumped GZ. I think the whole time he was on the phone "whispering" to the fat, dumb black chick he was waiting and she was egging him on. You had a wanna be thug and a wanna be cop meet up and someone wins and someone loses.
  
  
  I dont feel sorry for either of them.

  Really?
• Fab1b

  

  I don't think CC's version of events are bad either, but the problem is we don't know. TM could have very much so did what CC thinks and GZ could have done what others think. Doesn't matter though, only those on the jury have the say!
  
  The problem here is there are no real "eye" witnesses but mostly "ear" witnesses.
• TedSheckler

  

  sherm03;1465462 wrote:This is a pretty tough case for me to call right now. Too many questions out there for both sides.

  
  So you're saying you have reasonable doubt.
• gut

  TedSheckler;1465483 wrote:...reasonable doubt.

  Which has been painfully obvious to anyone reasonably objective from the start (barring some unleaked bombshell from the prosecution).
  
  An all women jury (especially the mothers) doesn't help Zimmerman, but they are unlikely to convict him based on race.
• Trueblue23

  

  I actually don't think CCrunner is too far off.
• gut

  What about the "creepy ass cracker" that might have been a pervert? What if TM was a homophobe and actually committing a hate crime? Might explain why he was trying to beat Zimmerman to death.
• Trueblue23

  

  gut;1465492 wrote:What about the "creepy ass cracker" that might have been a pervert? What if TM was a homophobe and actually committing a hate crime?

  Well the "cracker" comment alone is racist.
• rmolin73

  

  ccrunner609;1465503 wrote:and that comment on the phone could make it seem that the conversaion he was having with miss attitude went the way where between his wanna be thug image and her ridiculous contemptuous attitude ended up with him jumping GZ. She knows the truth but will be protected from scrunity cause she is black.

  Protected from scrutiny? Are you serious? This chick is being scrutinized all over the place.
• Fab1b

  

  I'd say both, she is getting it and being defended. Really depends on what news service you read. I have seen everything from she is stupid to white people just don't get it!
• rmolin73

  

  Fab1b;1465534 wrote:I'd say both, she is getting it and being defended. Really depends on what news service you read. I have seen everything from she is stupid to white people just don't get it!

  Oh I know that she is getting it on both ends. But according to ccrunner she is getting a pass from everyone because she's black. GTFO with that line of thinking.
• Fab1b

  

  But she is getting a pass by some, even in the big media outlets, he isn't all that wrong its not just one sided though. Not all pass, not all stupid, like I said both is out there. I personally saw a freaking moron on the stand myself but that is my thoughts!
• rmolin73

  

  Her getting a pass from some media outlets shouldn't shock anyone. They have to stick with their agenda. It has far less to do with her being black.
• elbuckeye28

  I guess I'm just confused why the testimony girl on the phone is so important. Eyewitness testimony is highly unreliable, wouldn't ear-witness(whatever you would call it), which would be made more inaudible by a phone conversation, be even more unreliable? How can this be considered valid proof of anything?
• sherm03

  

  TedSheckler;1465483 wrote:So you're saying you have reasonable doubt.

  Yes. Which is why I typed this...right after the part you quoted:
  

  sherm03;1465462 wrote:But I guess, if there's any type of question in the state's case...he should walk.

• iclfan2

  

  rmolin73;1465547 wrote:Her getting a pass from some media outlets shouldn't shock anyone. They have to stick with their agenda. It has far less to do with her being black.

  I think it has everything to do with her being black. It is astonishing the way black celebrities and the media are coming to her side, saying it isn't that she's a complete moron, but it's just how she grew up. I read an article where the author wrote that she was being a very good witness, her story was solid, etc, when the FACTS are that she is completely inconsistent with her stories, and already lied under oath months ago. I am sick and tired of the MSM in this country, as well as blacks defending other blacks, simply because the person they are defending is black. If the witness was a white trash white girl, nobody would care whatsoever and everyone would call her a moron. Not to mention the fact that somehow cracker is tolerated, but the one second someone says the N word it is national news.
• Pick6

  

  iclfan2;1465816 wrote:I think it has everything to do with her being black. It is astonishing the way black celebrities and the media are coming to her side, saying it isn't that she's a complete moron, but it's just how she grew up. I read an article where the author wrote that she was being a very good witness, her story was solid, etc, when the FACTS are that she is completely inconsistent with her stories, and already lied under oath months ago. I am sick and tired of the MSM in this country, as well as blacks defending other blacks, simply because the person they are defending is black. If the witness was a white trash white girl, nobody would care whatsoever and everyone would call her a moron. Not to mention the fact that somehow cracker is tolerated, but the one second someone says the N word it is national news.

  This post is spot on. Reps.
• rmolin73

  

  iclfan2;1465816 wrote:I think it has everything to do with her being black. It is astonishing the way black celebrities and the media are coming to her side, saying it isn't that she's a complete moron, but it's just how she grew up. I read an article where the author wrote that she was being a very good witness, her story was solid, etc, when the FACTS are that she is completely inconsistent with her stories, and already lied under oath months ago. I am sick and tired of the MSM in this country, as well as blacks defending other blacks, simply because the person they are defending is black. If the witness was a white trash white girl, nobody would care whatsoever and everyone would call her a moron. Not to mention the fact that somehow cracker is tolerated, but the one second someone says the N word it is national news.

  Lol black celebrities. Seriously dude? They are just as bad as the media lol. But trust me more blacks than what you see on "TV" are calling this girl out for what she is. You guys complain about the media but yet you use them in your comments. Most black people that I know as well as what I have read are calling this girl a complete moron who's story has been all over the place. Also regarding the N word and the word cracker both are wrong but the other has a little more history to it.
• vball10set

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• ActionJackson

  Still waiting on the state to play the 'mutual combat' card. I lol'd when the state had to object to the lead investigator saying he believed Zman. Serino admitted he had little to challenge Zman's story with, and even admitted other witnesses confirmed parts of his story, unknown to Zman at the time of interviews. The judge is still doing her best for the state to win.
• iclfan2

  

  Ha it is pretty funny, that all CREDIBLE witnesses the prosecution have brought up, seem to only help Zimmerman's case. Doesn't make much sense but the more facts that come out, the more Zimmerman has never waivered and his story continues to hold up.
• Gblock

  This site is 75% closet racists no wonder it has less than 50 members after 4+ years
• Gblock

  This site is 50% closet racists no wonder it has less than 50 members after 4+ years
• iclfan2

  

  Gblock;1467116 wrote:This site is 75% closet racists no wonder it has less than 50 members after 4+ years

  Oh.
• sherm03

  

  I think today was big for the prosecution. The Medical Examiner's testimony that Zimmerman's injuries were not life threatening and were "insignificant" really hurts his claim that he was scared for his life.
  
  Also, I'm calling bullshit on Zimmerman saying that he did not know of any type of "stand your ground" law in Florida.
• gport_tennis

  The medical examiner's saying that those injuries were not life threatening does not change much in my eyes. The injuries could have been life threatening had he not stopped trayvon from beating him. George is not a doctor, he can't assess the injuries as they are happening to him. He knows that he is pinned to the ground with somebody smashing his head to the concrete.
  
  A person being chased by a another with a knife hasn't had life threatening injuries. Doesn't mean their life isn't in danger. They should do what it takes to save their own life